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>From: ebrima ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Another Dubious Coup Plot in The Gambia
>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 05:33:15 PST
>
>Buharry,
>
>I've read the comments/sentiments expressed in your piece, which is
>reproduced further below, and I must say that I found them quite
>instructive. Thanks for the posting for it was very useful and informatory.
>
>I am also not doubting the hard facts contained in "Ebou Colley's" piece at
>all, but I, for one, am also uncomfortable with the tribal aspect of his
>useful posting.
>
>Anyway, if Gambians feel that tribalism is a legitimate problem/concern
>that
>ought be addressed headlong, then I am ready to open my ears and listen.
>
>Gambia-L, I must, however, say that detecting the literary hand and mind of
>a MR X (his real name is withheld by me) in "Ebou Colley's" posting, I had
>to do some serious checks - at the weekend - on the posting (not just on
>the
>IP number, but using other methods as well).
>
>And, consequently, I came to the conclusion that the person I suspected to
>have written the piece must have authored it.
>
>Having come to that conclusion, I am now taking VERY SERIOUSLY, the
>information contained in "Ebou Colley's" piece, except that like Buharry
>Gassama, my former classmate, I am also a little bit disturbed by the
>tribal
>aspect of this "wonderful" posting, to borrow words from Ous Bojang.
>
>Having said that, I am now publicly challenging you ("Ebou Colley") to use
>your REAL name on Gambia L, so that people WILL take what you have got to
>say/write about Jammeh and his army, very seriously, because you definitely
>were an INSIDER.
>
>"Ebou Colley", I believe you have a lot to contribute to the Gambian
>debate,
>but, in my honest view, it would help the debate if you use your genuine
>name so that, as I stated earlier, people would take you seriously.
>
>By the way, I also have some pertinent questions for you, relating to your
>fall out with the Jammeh regime, and would be very grateful if you could
>give me the real reasons behind your departure from this regime.
>
>I have also written a chapter on how the Jammeh coup was actually planned,
>but there is still a confusion in terms of who actually authored the first
>broadcast of the coup, on Radio One FM, owned by George Christenson.
>
>Did you have a hand in it, or, in other word, did you write the speech?
>Also, did you have any thing to do with planning of the coup? Is it true
>that you hid the original speech that Jammeh was supposed to use over Radio
>Gambia, on the first day of the coup, to announce the take over?
>
>Furthermore, on the second day of the coup, I was at State House, and
>noticed that Jammeh and Co were consulting you a lot, but a few days later,
>you were arrested and detained at the Mile two prisons?
>
>Would you tell Gambia L what, in reality, led to your dismissal and
>subsequent detention? Who actually ordered for your arrest? Was it to do
>with Sabally, or Jammeh himself?
>
>Furthermore, I have seen two lists containing ten names of those who
>actually planned the coup (not those who executed the coup), and I must say
>that in both lists, your name had featured. My question then is: Were you
>one of the architects of the coup?
>
>You are also accused of being the one who wrote Jammeh's first speech on
>policy, broadcast on Radio Gambia, on the third day of the coup; is this
>true? I interviewed former US ambassador to the Gambia Andrew Winter and
>his
>Political and Visa Officer at the time, James Knight, on whether or not the
>USA had a hand in the coup and they made their position on the take over
>very clear to me.
>
>But from your perspective, could I ask you, to the best of your knowledge,
>whether or not the USA had a hand in the Jammeh coup?
>
>Some months before the coup, in my capacity as a journalist, I and some
>international human right lawyers had the privilege to visit the inside of
>both Mile 2 and Jeshwang prisons; and to tell you the truth, we were
>shocked
>by the appalling conditions of these two prisons at the time.
>
>Could I, therefore, ask you about the conditions of the Mile 2 prison at
>the
>time you were there? Also, I have done some thorough research on what I'll
>call the marriage of circumstances between Captain Edward Singhatey and Mr
>Jammeh, and I've come to the conclusion that they'll never fall apart,
>because they desperately need each other. Do you buy this?
>
>I could share my observations on the two if you wish. But, as for you, do
>you envisage a fall out between Jammeh and Singhatey?
>
>"Ebou Colley", I presume you wouldn't have much information on the November
>11, 1994 alleged coup plot, since you were still in jail I believe, but
>what
>do you really know, as a fact, about the attack by those "rebels" on the
>Farafenni military barracks in 1996?
>
>By the way, was Yankuba Touray one of those who planned the Jammeh coup, or
>was he invited? Anyway, I know at the time of the Jammeh coup, he was based
>in Farafenni.
>
>"Ebou Colley", the reason why I've asked about Yankuba's role is because I
>have got conflicting reports on Yankuba's role in the coup and would
>therefore be very grateful if you could tell me what you know on the issue.
>
>Also, on the first day of the coup, who actually opened the armoury? Did
>Captain Mamat Cham have the keys to the armoury at the time of the coup?
>
>"Ebou Colley", I have so many questions for you, but I am in a hurry, so I
>have to go. But do expect more questions from me.
>
>Finally, I again challenge you to use your real name so as to give
>credibility to what you have got to say on the Gambian debate. I believe
>your voice is quite significant vis-a-vis the Gambian debate and, as such,
>you owe it to Gambians and posterity, to make your contribution to debate
>ON
>THE RECORD, and not off the record if you know what I mean.
>
>"Ebou Colley", I must apologise unreservedly in advance if you find my
>posting offensive or distasteful.
>
>Ousman Bojang, I read your comments on the topic of democracy and the
>points
>you made were valuable. Keep it up!
>
>Ebrima Ceesay,
>Birmingham, UK.
>
>
>
>
>>From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Another Dubious Coup Plot in The Gambia
>>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:33:01 +0100
>>
>>Hi!
>>     The issue of underlining the tribalist undertones of Ebou Colley's
>>posting has nothing to do with the "keep it safe business". It is neither
>>a
>>run for cover nor an attempt to use "code words" to run away from
>>tribalist
>>realities back home. The issues raised by Ebou if true, given that his
>>information sounds real "insider", are issues that should concern us all.
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