Certainly. It may help educate those who are currently undergoing the same
mental torture and claiming inevitability. Maybe mr. Colley could give them
advice if he had learnt anything about how to or how not to do certain
things. In other words, after having been in the free world for some time
now, what would Mr. Colley do differently if he were to be enticed by Ya!
Ya! to go back?
Tis genuine inquiry for the blessed soul methinks.
cheers!!
>From: kalilu camara <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:51:21 GMT
>
>Dear Mr.Dampha,
>I have to assume that you know Mr.Colly. Certainly much more than me.
>But I have a hard time not questioning anyone who worked with Mr jammeh.
>But you are right I maybe be wrong to ask Mr colly his undertakings
>and experiences with yaya.I am deeply sorry if I imply anything there in.
>But i meant genuinely to know yayas skills to crip our brothers behind
>him.To undo him we need to know how he works his web.A statement
>maybe based on a false premise with intent to hurt but a question by its
>very nature wants to know the truth.I have never been a soldier
>but as a concerned human being much more a Gambian citizen I have the right
>to ask Yaya or anyone else who had a say in the wellbeing or otherwise of
>my
>country's citizens. Moreover regardless of efforts, results for me count
>much more especially if it comes to discuss other peoples lives.
> I would if Mr Colly let those of us who dont know him do so,thats is of
>course his choice to make not Mr.Dampha in my opinion?
> kalilu
>
>
>>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS
>>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:19:24 EDT
>>
>>Kalilu, with all due respect to you too, your question is based on false
>>premises. First of all, you are assuming that Colly was 'cooperating' with
>>Yaya in Yaya's quest to 'drag the nation down the tubes'. Secondly, you
>>are
>>also assuming that Colly did not get rid of Yaya because he (Colly) was
>>fearful. Both these assumptions are totally wrong. Make me wonder whether
>>your reason for asking Colly these questions is genuine. If people like
>>you
>>knew what the Ebou Collys , the Mamat Chams, the Ebrima Chongans, the
>>Alieu
>>Ndures etc. of this world suffered through the hands of Yaya, you will not
>>take these holier than Thou postures and start asking people to justify
>>their actions or tell you what efforts they are making or have made in the
>>past to get rid of Yaya. Some of these people are professional soldiers
>>that
>>have sacrificed a lot and continue to sacrifice for this struggle.
>>KB
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: kalilu camara <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS
>>>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:48:06 GMT
>>>
>>>Dear Mr Colley,
>>>With all due redspect, what in the world have you at least thought about
>>>doing as mr jammeh drag the nation down the tubes right before your
>>>Gambian
>>>eyes. I ask this not to put your efforts down, as i have no idea what
>>>circumstances you had to face to cooperate with him . But your fears at
>>>the
>>>time may enlighten others like myself as to what our p
>>>brothers in his circles maybe facing at the moment.What was the crip!
>>> By the way thanks for the journey into mr jammehs mind set!
>>>
>>> karl
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: ebou colly <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: Re: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS
>>>>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:37:45 -0700
>>>>
>>>>Hi Mr. Taylor,
>>>>
>>>>I cannot but respond on this one as a one-time member
>>>>of Jammeh's inner circle of military consultants
>>>>To say that Yaya harbors sympathy for the MFDC rebels
>>>>and gives them all kinds of support in the face of his
>>>>pseudo- mediation efforts is the absolute fact as far
>>>>as my experience taught me.
>>>>Anyway before getting into the very specifics, I would
>>>>like to make some real reflections on an incident that
>>>>should best show what I am trying to say. If you can
>>>>recall, in 1994, immediately after the AFPRC seized
>>>>power, Yaya started an unnecessary negative campaign
>>>>against former President Joof's government, accusing
>>>>the Senegalese of being responsible for the first mass
>>>>graves in The Gambia, when in 1981 they illegally
>>>>intervened militarily to restore the PPP government
>>>>"after Kukoi Samba Sanyang successfully overthrew the
>>>>unwanted Jawara Regime". I wonder whether you could
>>>>remember that period of Yaya's negative political
>>>>campaign against Senegal. The whole thing was so
>>>>embarrassing to the Joof government that by early
>>>>1996, former President Joof delegated one of his most
>>>>trusted aides General Wane to quietly work out a means
>>>>of getting Kukoi from exile back to the Gambia. Yaya
>>>>accepted and immediately stopped the verbal attack on
>>>>Senegal.
>>>>
>>>>For a while, the Senegalese General shuttled back and
>>>>forth from Senegal to the Gambia until Kukoi was
>>>>smuggled into Senegal with some of his battle-hardened
>>>>mercenaries. They were seventeen in number all
>>>>mobilized from the battlefields of Liberia
>>>>All were Gambians except one Essa Baldeh who
>>>>originally came from Kolda Senegal.
>>>>Mark you the negotiations were so kept in secret by
>>>>Yaya that even Edward Singhateh who was the Defense
>>>>Minister at the time was completely kept out of the
>>>>picture.
>>>> However, in July 1996, the Senegalese Defense
>>>>Minister Khan together with General Wane made an
>>>>urgent visit to The Gambia to report a major setback
>>>>in the negotiation. Yaya was on a political tour of
>>>>the provinces. But it was so urgent that the two
>>>>messengers after landing at Yundum Airport in their
>>>>special plane traveled all the way to the provinces to
>>>>deliver the special message they had for Yaya from
>>>>Joof.
>>>>The message was comprehensive and clear. But to cut a
>>>>long story short, the Senegalese delegations simply
>>>>came to explain to Yaya their discovery of kukoi"s
>>>>intent to use forceful means to overthrow The Gambia
>>>>government. Kukoi and eight of his combatants were
>>>>arrested at Tambakunda, eastern Senegal where they
>>>>were making attempts to acquire arms to launch the
>>>>attack. The special Senegalese team therefore met him
>>>>to also get his opinion on what to do with Kukoi. But
>>>>since Yaya could not explain that to anybody,
>>>>Gambians, Senegalese or anyone after talking so well
>>>>about the rebel leader for so long, he simply
>>>>surrendered everything to the Senegalese government to
>>>>cover it up.
>>>>The Senegalese government on the other hand could not
>>>>allow the Senegalese public to know anything about
>>>>their clandestine involvement with Kukoi and Yaya who
>>>>were both repulsive in their books. As a result
>>>>everything was handled so badly that the Senegalese
>>>>missed the presence of the remnants of Kukoi's
>>>>fighters in Senegal (Sokone Village) when they allowed
>>>>the rebel leader to leave their country in the same
>>>>manner that he entered it-silently.
>>>>Jammeh also was so foolish in the way he received or
>>>>treated the information delivered by the Senegalese
>>>>Minister that he even hid the attack blueprint
>>>>designed by Kukoi and his men targeting Farafenni
>>>>barracks as their first objective of assault.
>>>>On the 26th of November, four months after Yaya was
>>>>warned of the attack by the Senegalese but kept the
>>>>information from the military authorities including
>>>>the Defense Department, the eight remaining
>>>>mercenaries not jailed by the Senegalese, attacked
>>>>Farafenni Barracks under the leadership of one
>>>>Abdoulie Sonko. Six soldiers were killed and several
>>>>wounded thanks to the idiot's foolishness and
>>>>incompetence.
>>>>Anyhow for a while after the attack, Yaya put up a
>>>>serious pretence of not knowing anything about the
>>>>attackers or where they came from, insisting that the
>>>>whole matter was masterminded by Abdou Joof's
>>>>government to commit the same kind of genocide they
>>>>were doing against the people of Cassamance. He had
>>>>tried everything in his usual stupid ways to make us
>>>>believe that the Senegalese were just maniac when it
>>>>came to taking innocent lives.
>>>>We had argued with him based on the logic of the
>>>>operation, showing him that if Senegal was to
>>>>organized anything like such attacks in The Gambia it
>>>>would not have been so unprofessional and badly done
>>>>and would have certainly been a success. The National
>>>>Ignorant Agency NIA was on his side that Senegal was
>>>>behind the attack. Even when the Senegalese government
>>>>captured the attackers-John Dampha, Sulayman Sarr and
>>>>Essa Baldeh- and handed them over within 48hours after
>>>>they fled to Senegal, Yaya still insisted that Abdou
>>>>Joof was behind the assault against his government.
>>>>But when Edward started contemplating a retaliation by
>>>>having the GNA attack a part of Senegal, the coward
>>>>finally relented producing for the first time the
>>>>attack-plan that the Senegalese gave him months ago.
>>>>With that special information, we made it clear to him
>>>>that a great deal of what led to the death of our
>>>>innocent soldiers should be blamed on why that
>>>>document was hidden from the military authorities. But
>>>>with all that clear evidence, he was still blaming
>>>>Senegal. And for that reason, he vetoed the press
>>>>release that was written on the case thanking Senegal
>>>>for their cooperation.
>>>>He in fact seized that opportunity to condemn
>>>>Senegal's barbaric tendencies in Cassamance, swearing
>>>>that when next time he spoke to Nkrumah Sanneh the
>>>>fanatical Cassamance rebel based in France then, he
>>>>would give him a program of retaliation for the MFDC
>>>>to carry out in Senegal. Whether he was only bluffing
>>>>or not Jammeh had always maintained that he is in
>>>>direct contact with the armed wing of the MFDC the
>>>>only organization he found worthwhile in the struggle
>>>>for independence of Senegal. Take it from me Yaya's
>>>>support for the Cassamance Rebels bent on fighting for
>>>>their own state is deeply rooted in his unfair mind.
>>>>The ordinary person may not know but for some of us
>>>>who were around him during his natural or "artificial"
>>>>moods, we knew he was only playing the fool with poor
>>>>Abdou Joof.
>>>>Having made that reflection, I want to now give you
>>>>some specific evidences that I talked about in the
>>>>past. On several occasions Cassamance rebels wounded
>>>>in action have been quietly treated at the RVH on
>>>>Yaya's knowledge and blessing. Yaya with all his
>>>>pretence in championing the Cassamance peace process,
>>>>he has never been heard saying anything about his
>>>>solution plan on the issue. This conflict is one with
>>>>two uncompromising antagonists in the ultimate
>>>>solution they each desire. The Senegalese government
>>>>would not in anyway let go of Cassamance for
>>>>independence, while Jammeh's friend Nkrumah Sanneh
>>>>with his fighters calls for nothing less than total
>>>>independence. That is why Yaya had never been heard in
>>>>public saying where he stands on the issue. Yaya could
>>>>be on any side depending on whether he was speaking to
>>>>Abdou Joof or Nkrumah Sanneh.
>>>>The peaceful negotiators who used to converge in The
>>>>Gambia were the Seedy Badgie group. Yaya hates this
>>>>group with serious bitterness calling them puppets of
>>>>Abdou Joof in his private moments. That was why the
>>>>peace process could not achieve anything with Yaya
>>>>handling it in the Gambia. Every time a meeting was
>>>>held in the Gambia an armed attack by the MFDC would
>>>>follow a day after the meeting was ended.
>>>>MFDC rebels have been captured with Gambian ID cards
>>>>thanks to Yaya's tricks. The Atlantic Hotel in Banjul
>>>>is virtually an MFDC administrative headquarters. They
>>>>give press conference there and plan whatever they
>>>>want there.
>>>>Abdou Joof may have chosen to accept Yaya's elementary
>>>>manipulative tendencies but Wadda might not. After all
>>>>Joof's downfall has a lot to do with his naïve
>>>>relationship with Yaya.
>>>>Just look at it this way: since Wadda kept Yaya away
>>>>from the Cassamance issue, the rebel's military
>>>>activities have been virtually contained. So Wadda
>>>>should be glad that Yaya's meddling hand in the
>>>>Cassamance business has been cut at last .It was a
>>>>filthy hand after all.
>>>>Ebou Colly
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--- Mark Taylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> > "CORRECTION"
>>>> >
>>>> > Dampha Kebba,
>>>> > Thanks for your note.You have indeed
>>>> > shown your sincere
>>>> > concern for peace in the Senegambian soil.But your
>>>> > last few lines doesn't
>>>> > help much to create peace.You are coming up with
>>>> > interesting and substantial
>>>> > allegations that The Gambian government harbors the
>>>> > MFDC rebels and give
>>>> > them all kinds of moral support.If these are
>>>> > allegations can be proven to be
>>>> > true then the smooth tie that existed between The
>>>> > Gambia and Senegal will be
>>>> > SOILED.It is very essential for one to avoid relying
>>>> > too much on hear say
>>>> > without having conduct a concrete
>>>> > investigation.Facts without proof can
>>>> > yield to misleading CONCLUSIONS.I think it is much
>>>> > better to let the other
>>>> > party to prove that The Gambian government harbors
>>>> > their rebels.If this
>>>> > other party should buy such allegations and decides
>>>> > to retaliate then none
>>>> > of us will stand to benefit from this.Well,this is
>>>> > just a contribution.
>>>> >
>>>> > MARK
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
>>>> > list
>>>> > >><[log in to unmask]>
>>>> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> > >>Subject: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE
>>>> > PROCESS
>>>> > >>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:18:12 EDT
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>The article below was culled from the Gambian
>>>> > Daily Observer. Reading
>>>> > >>between the lines of a demoralized Sedat Jobe
>>>> > press conference, I detected
>>>> > >>that the Senegalese finally smelt the coffee and
>>>> > kick Yaya out of the
>>>> > >>negotiations. The Senegalese have fine soldiers
>>>> > like Ebou Colly to thank
>>>> > >>for
>>>> > >>their government's decision to send Yaya packing.
>>>> > I look forward to
>>>> > >>Colly's
>>>> > >>reaction to this pivotal news. I hope and pray
>>>> > that the Senegalese
>>>> > >>government will not ascribe Yaya's illegal and
>>>> > slimy actions to the
>>>> > >>peace-loving Gambian people. We have no quarrel
>>>> > with Senegal. People like
>>>> > >>Sedat Jobe are gutless vermin that will follow a
>>>> > moron like Yaya to Hell
>>>> > >>if
>>>> > >>need be. We will hold Yaya and MFDC responsible if
>>>> > they make it necessary
>>>> > >>for Senegalese soldiers to pursue them into
>>>> > Gambian territory and put
>>>> > >>Gambian villagers in jeopardy. The reckless
>>>> > government we have back home
>>>> > >>should cease all contact with and support for the
>>>> > MFDC. The Yaya
>>>> > >>government
>>>> > >>should stop harboring rebels in Gambian hotels and
>>>> > treating them at
>>>> > >>Gambian
>>>> > >>hospitals. The government should also stop being a
>>>> > conduit for supplying
>>>> > >>arms to the rebels. In other words, Gambians
>>>> > should stay out of a war that
>>>> > >>does not concern us.
>>>> > >>KB
>>>> > >>
>>>> >
>>>> >>________________________________________________________________________
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS Mfdc
>>>> > Calls For Sanctions On
>>>> > >>Senegal
>>>> > >>The Gambia government yesterday announced its
>>>> > withdrawal from the
>>>> > >>mediation
>>>> > >>role in the Casamance conflict. Following
>>>> > instructions from President
>>>> > >>Jammeh, the secretary of state for Foreign Affairs
>>>> > called a press
>>>> > >>conference
>>>> > >>to brief the media on the development.
>>>> > >>Before the press conference, Foreign Affairs
>>>> > secretary, Dr ML Sedat Jobe,
>>>> > >>held a 52 minute closed door meeting with the
>>>> > diplomats, including UN's
>>>> > >>Malika Akrouf, USA's George Haley, Britain's John
>>>> > Perrott, Nigeria's Jacob
>>>> > >>Ngbako, Sierra's Leone's EM Fofana, Unicef's
>>>> > Teresa Hevia, WHO Mwanzia,
>>>> > >>FAO's Mikkola and Mauritania's Mohamed. At the
>>>> > press conference, SoS Jobe
>>>> > >>told journalists, "We are withdrawing to avoid
>>>> > indecent atmosphere in
>>>> > >>which
>>>> > >>our role has been misunderstood."
>>>> > >>He explained that following his inauguration as
>>>> > president of Senegal,
>>>> > >>Abdoulaye Wade had pleaded with the Gambia
>>>> > government to continue to play
>>>> > >>a
>>>> > >>pro-active role in the Casamance peace process
>>>> > begun during President
>>>> > >>Abdou
>>>> > >>Diouf's regime, but that Wade has neither created
>>>> > a new mediation team nor
>>>> > >>other enabling factors for the negotiations. "When
>>>> > we first mediated, our
>>>> > >>intention was to withdraw but there were a lot of
>>>> > reactions in Senegal by
>>>> > >>the people who think that The Gambia should
>>>> > continue with her role," Jobe
>>>> > >>recalled. Dr Jobe said The Gambia has been
>>>> > marginalised in all the recent
>>>> > >>meetings on Casamance and that Wade's government
>>>> > does not recognise the
>>>> > >>Abidjan code nor The Gambia's mediation role in
>>>> > the peace process.
>>>> > >>However, Dr Jobe said "withdrawal (from the peace
>>>> > process) does not mean
>>>> > >>hostility (to Senegal). I do not think this will
>>>> > pose any negative impact
>>>> > >>in
>>>> > >>The Gambia's relationship with Senegal." Asked
>>>> > about the reaction of the
>>>> > >>diplomats to the Gambia government's decision, Dr
>>>> > Jobe said they expressed
>>>> > >>sadness over the incident "but they understand The
>>>> > Gambia's situation."
>>>> > >>Gambia, he added, does not derive any monetary
>>>> > gains from the peace
>>>> > >>process,
>>>> > >>"instead, the country is spending from its meagre
>>>> > resources, still that is
>>>> > >>not moral...to the government of Wade." Dr Jobe
>>>> > passionately appealed to
>>>> > >>the
>>>> > >>media to stress that the withdrawal has no
>>>> > negative connotation.
>>>> > >>Sanctions on Senegal Meanwhile, Alexandre Djiba,
>>>> > the MFDC spokesman, has
>>>> > >>called on the international community to freeze
>>>> > all financial assistance
>>>> > >>to
>>>> > >>the government of Mr Wade "until he decides to
>>>> > engage effectively and
>>>> > >>concretely in the search for peaceful settlement
>>>> > towards lasting and just
>>>> > >>peace in Casamance." Mr Djiba told Daily Observer
>>>> > yesterday, "the silence
>>>> > >>of
>>>> > >>all democrats of the world does nothing but
>>>> > reinforce the feeling of
>>>> > >>impunity of the Senegalese policy in Casamance.
>>>> > >>He (Wade) tries to undermine the war in Casamance
>>>> > which has been going on
>>>> > >>for nearly 20 years by saying the crisis is
>>>> > internal and should be solved
>>>> > >>among Senegalese. Wade is preparing for the
>>>> > restart of hostilities in
>>>> > >>Casamance. The Movement of Democratic Forces in
>>>> > Casamance is appealing to
>>>> > >>the International Community to renounce the crime,
>>>> > which Mr Wade is
>>>> > >>willing
>>>> > >>to foster in Casamance," he concluded.
>>>> > >>
>>>> >
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