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Mark Taylor <[log in to unmask]>
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Mr. Jow,
       Thanks for your posting.But,however,if one criticizes your postings
let that person not be considered  as an enemy.Healthy and genuine
disagreement is a sign of ALLAH's mightiness and greatness.Keep up the good
work and may ALLAH bless us all.Amen!

Mark


>From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: (Seedy Ahmed)
>Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 13:59:36 EDT
>
>Thank you for your nice comments about the Gambia-L.  I believe most of us
>see it as great medium to keep in touch with events in our country plus a
>quick an effective ways of making our opinions heard very quickly.  We
>could
>go on and on about the great L, but let me get to the gist of my point
>quickly!
>
>In your previous piece, reference was made to my response to the email that
>Mr. Haruna Farage wrote in response to the, at the time, ongoing discourse
>about Annan and his effectiveness in making the plight of Africa heard.
>These
>were your thoughts about my response, and I quote:
>
><<with the exception of one
>  vide (Re. Annan Genuine Democracy Needed-Attn. Haruna) which I consider
>way
>  too far and in fact lacking in tolerance.
>
>You further went on to state that though you did not want to get entangled
>in
>a web of intolerance, this piece was inappropriate and improper.  I find
>this
>to be a bit of a contradiction because, if you really wanted to avoid
>becoming entangled in this so-called web of intolerance, the subject of my
>email would not have been quoted.  In other words, my piece was singled out
>and, of course, that meant that I was exposed too. Well you can't escape
>now,
>and I would like to temporarily entangle you in this web of intolerance,
>and
>extracate myself against what I consider an abrupt judgment call on your
>part
>regarding my piece.
>
>With all due respect, you made the fundamental mistake of making good
>initial
>observations on the workings of the L.  These great observations  were
>followed by a conclusion that, in my opinion, is baseless considering the
>amount of data you have been exposed to up to now.  A conclusion that we
>are
>all on the same side and are for a common goal is as far from the truth as
>it
>gets.  Anyone who has been a contributor or reader on the L for a long time
>will agree with me that your conclusion is wrong and  hastily derived.  And
>anyone that believes that all Gambians are working for a common goal is
>naive.
>
>I strongly believe that we are not on the same side and similarly not
>everyone is my friend on this cyber forum that we have here.  Everyone's
>track record speaks for itself and every discourse that has ever been
>carried
>out on the L is located at this URL:
>http://maelstrom.stjohns.edu/archives/gambia-l.html
>
>In that vein, I know for a fact that Mr. Farage is not on the side of the
>people that have constantly fought for change on this forum.  His track
>record based on the archives contained in the above URL proves this and I
>don't need to go into any specifics to prove my point.  Furthermore, my
>agitation, albeit slight, was obviously borne out of a sense that the
>aforementioned did not read my piece.  Instead, he hastily jumped to a
>conclusion and assumed that I did not understand the workings of the UN.
>This type of thinking obviously reflects some type of impartiality or bias.
>My response dealt with this as opposed to a dissonant view.
>
>This is not the first time that Haruna and myself have had divergent views.
>The first one was over the unfortunate topic of assigning blame to those
>responsible for Ebrima Barry's death.  He claimed that the late Mr. Barry's
>teacher should be as culpable as the people who killed the poor man. This
>assertion was absolutely ludicrous and was more in convergence with the
>views
>expressed by the Gambia goverment and it's tyranically leader.  It was from
>that point on that his modus operandi started to become very questionable
>to
>me.  In my response to that assertion, I was neither rude nor intolerant.
>But, since then, I have observed this man, and from his contributions or
>non-contributions on issues close to the heart of every Gambian, he has
>succinctly shown that he is not  on the side of those fighting for justice.
>Regardless of this fact, I have scoured over my response and find nothing
>to
>be wrong with my comments except perhaps the last phrase.  It was slightly
>rude and my apologies go out to those insulted by it, including Mr. Haruna
>Farage.  But everything else in that piece of email is true, and I strongly
>stand by these undeniable facts.
>
>Ahmed, with all due respect, those that know me will assure you that
>intolerance and Yusupha Jow do not mesh.  I have had my controversial
>moments
>of lunacy on the L, but I have always been man enough to accept my mistakes
>and take the blame for whatever mistakes were made.  In real life, those
>that
>know me will assure you that I am quite a tolerant and accepting person.
>
>Forgive me if I am a bit here and there, it is stiill early in the
>mountainous state of Arizona.  But  to wake up and read that someone is
>accusing you of intolerance deserves a quick reply.  This said, I have
>learnt
>from many solo years of some lessons hard earned lessons that no one is
>above
>self improvement or criticism.  I strive to make myself a better person
>each
>day.  So perhaps improving my tolerance would be a good goal to pursue.
>Why
>not start today?
>
>Cheers and a warm welcome to the Gambia-L, Seedy Ahmed.  I look forward to
>your contributions.
>
>
>I
>
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