Dear Mr.Dampha,
I have to assume that you know Mr.Colly. Certainly much more than me.
But I have a hard time not questioning anyone who worked with Mr jammeh.
But you are right I maybe be wrong to ask Mr colly his undertakings
and experiences with yaya.I am deeply sorry if I imply anything there in.
But i meant genuinely to know yayas skills to crip our brothers behind
him.To undo him we need to know how he works his web.A statement
maybe based on a false premise with intent to hurt but a question by its
very nature wants to know the truth.I have never been a soldier
but as a concerned human being much more a Gambian citizen I have the right
to ask Yaya or anyone else who had a say in the wellbeing or otherwise of my
country's citizens. Moreover regardless of efforts, results for me count
much more especially if it comes to discuss other peoples lives.
I would if Mr Colly let those of us who dont know him do so,thats is of
course his choice to make not Mr.Dampha in my opinion?
kalilu
>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:19:24 EDT
>
>Kalilu, with all due respect to you too, your question is based on false
>premises. First of all, you are assuming that Colly was 'cooperating' with
>Yaya in Yaya's quest to 'drag the nation down the tubes'. Secondly, you are
>also assuming that Colly did not get rid of Yaya because he (Colly) was
>fearful. Both these assumptions are totally wrong. Make me wonder whether
>your reason for asking Colly these questions is genuine. If people like you
>knew what the Ebou Collys , the Mamat Chams, the Ebrima Chongans, the Alieu
>Ndures etc. of this world suffered through the hands of Yaya, you will not
>take these holier than Thou postures and start asking people to justify
>their actions or tell you what efforts they are making or have made in the
>past to get rid of Yaya. Some of these people are professional soldiers
>that
>have sacrificed a lot and continue to sacrifice for this struggle.
>KB
>
>
>
>>From: kalilu camara <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS
>>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 12:48:06 GMT
>>
>>Dear Mr Colley,
>>With all due redspect, what in the world have you at least thought about
>>doing as mr jammeh drag the nation down the tubes right before your
>>Gambian
>>eyes. I ask this not to put your efforts down, as i have no idea what
>>circumstances you had to face to cooperate with him . But your fears at
>>the
>>time may enlighten others like myself as to what our p
>>brothers in his circles maybe facing at the moment.What was the crip!
>> By the way thanks for the journey into mr jammehs mind set!
>>
>> karl
>>
>>
>>>From: ebou colly <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS
>>>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:37:45 -0700
>>>
>>>Hi Mr. Taylor,
>>>
>>>I cannot but respond on this one as a one-time member
>>>of Jammeh's inner circle of military consultants
>>>To say that Yaya harbors sympathy for the MFDC rebels
>>>and gives them all kinds of support in the face of his
>>>pseudo- mediation efforts is the absolute fact as far
>>>as my experience taught me.
>>>Anyway before getting into the very specifics, I would
>>>like to make some real reflections on an incident that
>>>should best show what I am trying to say. If you can
>>>recall, in 1994, immediately after the AFPRC seized
>>>power, Yaya started an unnecessary negative campaign
>>>against former President Joof's government, accusing
>>>the Senegalese of being responsible for the first mass
>>>graves in The Gambia, when in 1981 they illegally
>>>intervened militarily to restore the PPP government
>>>"after Kukoi Samba Sanyang successfully overthrew the
>>>unwanted Jawara Regime". I wonder whether you could
>>>remember that period of Yaya's negative political
>>>campaign against Senegal. The whole thing was so
>>>embarrassing to the Joof government that by early
>>>1996, former President Joof delegated one of his most
>>>trusted aides General Wane to quietly work out a means
>>>of getting Kukoi from exile back to the Gambia. Yaya
>>>accepted and immediately stopped the verbal attack on
>>>Senegal.
>>>
>>>For a while, the Senegalese General shuttled back and
>>>forth from Senegal to the Gambia until Kukoi was
>>>smuggled into Senegal with some of his battle-hardened
>>>mercenaries. They were seventeen in number all
>>>mobilized from the battlefields of Liberia
>>>All were Gambians except one Essa Baldeh who
>>>originally came from Kolda Senegal.
>>>Mark you the negotiations were so kept in secret by
>>>Yaya that even Edward Singhateh who was the Defense
>>>Minister at the time was completely kept out of the
>>>picture.
>>> However, in July 1996, the Senegalese Defense
>>>Minister Khan together with General Wane made an
>>>urgent visit to The Gambia to report a major setback
>>>in the negotiation. Yaya was on a political tour of
>>>the provinces. But it was so urgent that the two
>>>messengers after landing at Yundum Airport in their
>>>special plane traveled all the way to the provinces to
>>>deliver the special message they had for Yaya from
>>>Joof.
>>>The message was comprehensive and clear. But to cut a
>>>long story short, the Senegalese delegations simply
>>>came to explain to Yaya their discovery of kukoi"s
>>>intent to use forceful means to overthrow The Gambia
>>>government. Kukoi and eight of his combatants were
>>>arrested at Tambakunda, eastern Senegal where they
>>>were making attempts to acquire arms to launch the
>>>attack. The special Senegalese team therefore met him
>>>to also get his opinion on what to do with Kukoi. But
>>>since Yaya could not explain that to anybody,
>>>Gambians, Senegalese or anyone after talking so well
>>>about the rebel leader for so long, he simply
>>>surrendered everything to the Senegalese government to
>>>cover it up.
>>>The Senegalese government on the other hand could not
>>>allow the Senegalese public to know anything about
>>>their clandestine involvement with Kukoi and Yaya who
>>>were both repulsive in their books. As a result
>>>everything was handled so badly that the Senegalese
>>>missed the presence of the remnants of Kukoi's
>>>fighters in Senegal (Sokone Village) when they allowed
>>>the rebel leader to leave their country in the same
>>>manner that he entered it-silently.
>>>Jammeh also was so foolish in the way he received or
>>>treated the information delivered by the Senegalese
>>>Minister that he even hid the attack blueprint
>>>designed by Kukoi and his men targeting Farafenni
>>>barracks as their first objective of assault.
>>>On the 26th of November, four months after Yaya was
>>>warned of the attack by the Senegalese but kept the
>>>information from the military authorities including
>>>the Defense Department, the eight remaining
>>>mercenaries not jailed by the Senegalese, attacked
>>>Farafenni Barracks under the leadership of one
>>>Abdoulie Sonko. Six soldiers were killed and several
>>>wounded thanks to the idiot's foolishness and
>>>incompetence.
>>>Anyhow for a while after the attack, Yaya put up a
>>>serious pretence of not knowing anything about the
>>>attackers or where they came from, insisting that the
>>>whole matter was masterminded by Abdou Joof's
>>>government to commit the same kind of genocide they
>>>were doing against the people of Cassamance. He had
>>>tried everything in his usual stupid ways to make us
>>>believe that the Senegalese were just maniac when it
>>>came to taking innocent lives.
>>>We had argued with him based on the logic of the
>>>operation, showing him that if Senegal was to
>>>organized anything like such attacks in The Gambia it
>>>would not have been so unprofessional and badly done
>>>and would have certainly been a success. The National
>>>Ignorant Agency NIA was on his side that Senegal was
>>>behind the attack. Even when the Senegalese government
>>>captured the attackers-John Dampha, Sulayman Sarr and
>>>Essa Baldeh- and handed them over within 48hours after
>>>they fled to Senegal, Yaya still insisted that Abdou
>>>Joof was behind the assault against his government.
>>>But when Edward started contemplating a retaliation by
>>>having the GNA attack a part of Senegal, the coward
>>>finally relented producing for the first time the
>>>attack-plan that the Senegalese gave him months ago.
>>>With that special information, we made it clear to him
>>>that a great deal of what led to the death of our
>>>innocent soldiers should be blamed on why that
>>>document was hidden from the military authorities. But
>>>with all that clear evidence, he was still blaming
>>>Senegal. And for that reason, he vetoed the press
>>>release that was written on the case thanking Senegal
>>>for their cooperation.
>>>He in fact seized that opportunity to condemn
>>>Senegal's barbaric tendencies in Cassamance, swearing
>>>that when next time he spoke to Nkrumah Sanneh the
>>>fanatical Cassamance rebel based in France then, he
>>>would give him a program of retaliation for the MFDC
>>>to carry out in Senegal. Whether he was only bluffing
>>>or not Jammeh had always maintained that he is in
>>>direct contact with the armed wing of the MFDC the
>>>only organization he found worthwhile in the struggle
>>>for independence of Senegal. Take it from me Yaya's
>>>support for the Cassamance Rebels bent on fighting for
>>>their own state is deeply rooted in his unfair mind.
>>>The ordinary person may not know but for some of us
>>>who were around him during his natural or "artificial"
>>>moods, we knew he was only playing the fool with poor
>>>Abdou Joof.
>>>Having made that reflection, I want to now give you
>>>some specific evidences that I talked about in the
>>>past. On several occasions Cassamance rebels wounded
>>>in action have been quietly treated at the RVH on
>>>Yaya's knowledge and blessing. Yaya with all his
>>>pretence in championing the Cassamance peace process,
>>>he has never been heard saying anything about his
>>>solution plan on the issue. This conflict is one with
>>>two uncompromising antagonists in the ultimate
>>>solution they each desire. The Senegalese government
>>>would not in anyway let go of Cassamance for
>>>independence, while Jammeh's friend Nkrumah Sanneh
>>>with his fighters calls for nothing less than total
>>>independence. That is why Yaya had never been heard in
>>>public saying where he stands on the issue. Yaya could
>>>be on any side depending on whether he was speaking to
>>>Abdou Joof or Nkrumah Sanneh.
>>>The peaceful negotiators who used to converge in The
>>>Gambia were the Seedy Badgie group. Yaya hates this
>>>group with serious bitterness calling them puppets of
>>>Abdou Joof in his private moments. That was why the
>>>peace process could not achieve anything with Yaya
>>>handling it in the Gambia. Every time a meeting was
>>>held in the Gambia an armed attack by the MFDC would
>>>follow a day after the meeting was ended.
>>>MFDC rebels have been captured with Gambian ID cards
>>>thanks to Yaya's tricks. The Atlantic Hotel in Banjul
>>>is virtually an MFDC administrative headquarters. They
>>>give press conference there and plan whatever they
>>>want there.
>>>Abdou Joof may have chosen to accept Yaya's elementary
>>>manipulative tendencies but Wadda might not. After all
>>>Joof's downfall has a lot to do with his naïve
>>>relationship with Yaya.
>>>Just look at it this way: since Wadda kept Yaya away
>>>from the Cassamance issue, the rebel's military
>>>activities have been virtually contained. So Wadda
>>>should be glad that Yaya's meddling hand in the
>>>Cassamance business has been cut at last .It was a
>>>filthy hand after all.
>>>Ebou Colly
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Mark Taylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> > "CORRECTION"
>>> >
>>> > Dampha Kebba,
>>> > Thanks for your note.You have indeed
>>> > shown your sincere
>>> > concern for peace in the Senegambian soil.But your
>>> > last few lines doesn't
>>> > help much to create peace.You are coming up with
>>> > interesting and substantial
>>> > allegations that The Gambian government harbors the
>>> > MFDC rebels and give
>>> > them all kinds of moral support.If these are
>>> > allegations can be proven to be
>>> > true then the smooth tie that existed between The
>>> > Gambia and Senegal will be
>>> > SOILED.It is very essential for one to avoid relying
>>> > too much on hear say
>>> > without having conduct a concrete
>>> > investigation.Facts without proof can
>>> > yield to misleading CONCLUSIONS.I think it is much
>>> > better to let the other
>>> > party to prove that The Gambian government harbors
>>> > their rebels.If this
>>> > other party should buy such allegations and decides
>>> > to retaliate then none
>>> > of us will stand to benefit from this.Well,this is
>>> > just a contribution.
>>> >
>>> > MARK
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>>> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
>>> > list
>>> > >><[log in to unmask]>
>>> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
>>> > >>Subject: GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE
>>> > PROCESS
>>> > >>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 09:18:12 EDT
>>> > >>
>>> > >>The article below was culled from the Gambian
>>> > Daily Observer. Reading
>>> > >>between the lines of a demoralized Sedat Jobe
>>> > press conference, I detected
>>> > >>that the Senegalese finally smelt the coffee and
>>> > kick Yaya out of the
>>> > >>negotiations. The Senegalese have fine soldiers
>>> > like Ebou Colly to thank
>>> > >>for
>>> > >>their government's decision to send Yaya packing.
>>> > I look forward to
>>> > >>Colly's
>>> > >>reaction to this pivotal news. I hope and pray
>>> > that the Senegalese
>>> > >>government will not ascribe Yaya's illegal and
>>> > slimy actions to the
>>> > >>peace-loving Gambian people. We have no quarrel
>>> > with Senegal. People like
>>> > >>Sedat Jobe are gutless vermin that will follow a
>>> > moron like Yaya to Hell
>>> > >>if
>>> > >>need be. We will hold Yaya and MFDC responsible if
>>> > they make it necessary
>>> > >>for Senegalese soldiers to pursue them into
>>> > Gambian territory and put
>>> > >>Gambian villagers in jeopardy. The reckless
>>> > government we have back home
>>> > >>should cease all contact with and support for the
>>> > MFDC. The Yaya
>>> > >>government
>>> > >>should stop harboring rebels in Gambian hotels and
>>> > treating them at
>>> > >>Gambian
>>> > >>hospitals. The government should also stop being a
>>> > conduit for supplying
>>> > >>arms to the rebels. In other words, Gambians
>>> > should stay out of a war that
>>> > >>does not concern us.
>>> > >>KB
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> >>________________________________________________________________________
>>> > >>
>>> > >>GAMBIA WITHDRAWS FROM CASAMANCE PEACE PROCESS Mfdc
>>> > Calls For Sanctions On
>>> > >>Senegal
>>> > >>The Gambia government yesterday announced its
>>> > withdrawal from the
>>> > >>mediation
>>> > >>role in the Casamance conflict. Following
>>> > instructions from President
>>> > >>Jammeh, the secretary of state for Foreign Affairs
>>> > called a press
>>> > >>conference
>>> > >>to brief the media on the development.
>>> > >>Before the press conference, Foreign Affairs
>>> > secretary, Dr ML Sedat Jobe,
>>> > >>held a 52 minute closed door meeting with the
>>> > diplomats, including UN's
>>> > >>Malika Akrouf, USA's George Haley, Britain's John
>>> > Perrott, Nigeria's Jacob
>>> > >>Ngbako, Sierra's Leone's EM Fofana, Unicef's
>>> > Teresa Hevia, WHO Mwanzia,
>>> > >>FAO's Mikkola and Mauritania's Mohamed. At the
>>> > press conference, SoS Jobe
>>> > >>told journalists, "We are withdrawing to avoid
>>> > indecent atmosphere in
>>> > >>which
>>> > >>our role has been misunderstood."
>>> > >>He explained that following his inauguration as
>>> > president of Senegal,
>>> > >>Abdoulaye Wade had pleaded with the Gambia
>>> > government to continue to play
>>> > >>a
>>> > >>pro-active role in the Casamance peace process
>>> > begun during President
>>> > >>Abdou
>>> > >>Diouf's regime, but that Wade has neither created
>>> > a new mediation team nor
>>> > >>other enabling factors for the negotiations. "When
>>> > we first mediated, our
>>> > >>intention was to withdraw but there were a lot of
>>> > reactions in Senegal by
>>> > >>the people who think that The Gambia should
>>> > continue with her role," Jobe
>>> > >>recalled. Dr Jobe said The Gambia has been
>>> > marginalised in all the recent
>>> > >>meetings on Casamance and that Wade's government
>>> > does not recognise the
>>> > >>Abidjan code nor The Gambia's mediation role in
>>> > the peace process.
>>> > >>However, Dr Jobe said "withdrawal (from the peace
>>> > process) does not mean
>>> > >>hostility (to Senegal). I do not think this will
>>> > pose any negative impact
>>> > >>in
>>> > >>The Gambia's relationship with Senegal." Asked
>>> > about the reaction of the
>>> > >>diplomats to the Gambia government's decision, Dr
>>> > Jobe said they expressed
>>> > >>sadness over the incident "but they understand The
>>> > Gambia's situation."
>>> > >>Gambia, he added, does not derive any monetary
>>> > gains from the peace
>>> > >>process,
>>> > >>"instead, the country is spending from its meagre
>>> > resources, still that is
>>> > >>not moral...to the government of Wade." Dr Jobe
>>> > passionately appealed to
>>> > >>the
>>> > >>media to stress that the withdrawal has no
>>> > negative connotation.
>>> > >>Sanctions on Senegal Meanwhile, Alexandre Djiba,
>>> > the MFDC spokesman, has
>>> > >>called on the international community to freeze
>>> > all financial assistance
>>> > >>to
>>> > >>the government of Mr Wade "until he decides to
>>> > engage effectively and
>>> > >>concretely in the search for peaceful settlement
>>> > towards lasting and just
>>> > >>peace in Casamance." Mr Djiba told Daily Observer
>>> > yesterday, "the silence
>>> > >>of
>>> > >>all democrats of the world does nothing but
>>> > reinforce the feeling of
>>> > >>impunity of the Senegalese policy in Casamance.
>>> > >>He (Wade) tries to undermine the war in Casamance
>>> > which has been going on
>>> > >>for nearly 20 years by saying the crisis is
>>> > internal and should be solved
>>> > >>among Senegalese. Wade is preparing for the
>>> > restart of hostilities in
>>> > >>Casamance. The Movement of Democratic Forces in
>>> > Casamance is appealing to
>>> > >>the International Community to renounce the crime,
>>> > which Mr Wade is
>>> > >>willing
>>> > >>to foster in Casamance," he concluded.
>>> > >>
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