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Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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Karim,
 
I am generally of your disposition when it comes to economic arrangements.  I 
think PDOIS has that embedded in its labyrinth of soliloquies and it has a  
hard time releasing it from the shackles of communist-tendent  administration.
 
I look forward to more from our friend Mr. Touray. I think he's doing  
yeoman's work for PDOIS. In his discernments will lie salvation for PDOIS.  Because 
Mr. Touray is not communist.
 
Haruna.
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/29/2008 4:33:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
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Haruna  and Mr Touray
To add to the debate, I don't think PDOIS ideals are  dogmatic. Political 
ideals evolves with time. They are not static and need to  change with global 
realities. For example the British labour party was able to  change clause 4 the 
emphasis of which was similar with the PDOIS style of  socialism. The new 
labour have still one of its think tank group- the fabrian  society mirroring 
socialism in marxist school of thought. In an economy like  Gambia the 
prescription for the development of our society with human face we  should embrace social 
democratic principles and democratic capitalism. The  mainstream political 
parties in the West have, in the post communist age  shifted towards the more 
conservative view of the economics and industry. The  left talks of the 
stakeholder society and no longer of vested interests and  living standard of the 
working classes. Neo-liberal capitalism alone is not  the solution. They have 
opearted on the edge of the environmental debate after  all the
destruction to the biosphere in the name of business as usual. The  present 
drift of market based economy lacked any real leadership on  environmental 
issues. For a solution to our current underdevelopment I don't  believe the 
solution lies in PDOIS style of socialism or neoliberal drivem  democratic 
capitalism devoid of any radical green ideas or  vision.

Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Mr. Touray,

I admire your affinity with PDOIS and your staunch  defense of its regard. I 
acknowledge your submission that PDOIS seeks and  receives its mandates from 
the people it seeks to govern. This is indeed a  good start in discernments. 
I 
look forward to hearing more.

I am of  the disposition that if PDOIS seeks its mandates from the people, it 
 
necessarily holds the views of those people in high regard and ammends its  
programmes accordingly. It is possibly one 'people' who characterizes  
individuals communist. That is a travesty of adjectives. By its very  nature, 
communism describes 
The sum total of manifestations and  affects of programme.

To the extent communism is perspectives of  programme, it cannot describe or 
qualify individuals. So the 'people',  whoever he or she may be, is in severe 
error in judgement. PDOIS could be  communist but the dirigeants de PDOIS may 
be found wanting in yielding  other perspective. You have begun right. I hope 
you continue in the way of  discernments.

a luta continua. Masoud. MQJGDT. Darbo. Al  Mutawakkil.

In a message dated 3/29/2008 4:34:32 A.M. Mountain Daylight  Time, 
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It does not sound funny when I  hear some people equating PDOIS with 
Communism. I wonder how they arrive  at this conclusion. I have never heard 
any member of PDOIS say they  advocate for communism. I have never read 
any publication of PDOIS which  implies that the party advocates for 
communism. Over a decade of public  service and advocacy programs, not 
once have the party acted in a manner  that imply advocacy for communism. 
Could someone tell us how they arrive  at the conclusion that PDOIS is a 
communist party?????? Why do they label  PDOIS a communist party and do 
not label other parties?
Only people who  do not understand the term “communism” or people who 
are 
impious  slanderers would equate PDOIS with communism. We know from 
history that  communist parties never seek the mandate of the people; they 
have always  forced there way to power. The Chinese Communists Party 
overthrew its  predecessor and forced its mandate on the people. The Castro 
Regime, The  Soviet Union, North Korea are examples of a communist party.
PDOIS have  never been engaged in any subversive activities. They have 
always sought  the mandate of the people. They have refused to work in a 
government that  does not drive its mandate from the people. They have 
placed their very  lives on the line in defense of civil liberties for all 
Gambians.  
These fine men who deserve our praise are contrarily being given all kind  of 
characterization, slander, and outright lies against what they have  been 
standing for and sometimes their very personalities are the subject  of 
blatant 
lies. 
I wonder what benefits one receives from  deliberate misrepresentation of 
others. Why can’t we say the truth or  keep quite. Just imagine if 
suddenly 
your acquaintance started  mischaracterizing you unfairly. How would you 
feel?
Why can’t we  focus on our common enemy so we can free ourselves from the 
York of  ignorance and impiety-lies about other people? 
Thanks
ML  TOURAY

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