Sanusi,
I certainlt sympathize with you. Yaya Jammeh is not going any where this
October. I will bet you on that. No elections is going to ouster President
Jammeh.
ON Chongan, Sam Sarr and Co., I recommend we discuss all human right
violations. If we are discussing only after the coup, what qualifies once a
terror like Chongan to play victim and condemn any other terror?



lamin Ceesay.


>From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:29:59 +0100
>
>Mr Jallow
>
>I think I will have to take some part of the blame for
>"inflaming" this debate. Perhaps, I should have stayed
>mute when Ous Ngum began his "counter attack". In my
>book, I always have respect for people who are firm
>and fair in their actions. In my view, for Chongan, to
>say no to a coup plot and tried to resist it speaks
>volumes for me and thats why I sympathised with him to
>a greater degree. As I said in my previous emails, If
>Gambia had 10 of Chongan's types during the
>insurrection, July 22 Takeover would have been
>crushed, period. Here I saw a man exercising his
>legitimate powers only to be betrayed by his immediate
>boss Pa Sallah Jagne, who wasted no time in joining
>President Jawara and many others for The American
>Vessel. How sad this man (Chongan) had to be left in
>such bizzarre situation. As mentioned before, if Ebou
>Colly had kept quiet about the Coup, no one would have
>had first hand information from Chongan about the
>prison conditions at Mile II prison. It is therefore
>unfortunate that after Ebrima Chongan has made this
>sacrifice of enlightening us about their prison
>conditions, someone else tries to castigate him about
>his past record. In my view, thats totally unfair and
>I still stand by it, since most of them wanted to hear
>from Chongan.
>
>Ous,Joe Sambou and many others are trying to make
>reference to Chongan's past record. No problem with
>that so long as the debate is about Human Rights
>violation under the PPP regime. In fact I am ready to
>partcipate in this debate if it is on the table, but
>to be honest with you what we were debating about is
>how military personnel detained under Decree 2 of the
>AFPRC dated July/August 1994 were harshly treated at
>Mile II prison. Lets therefore take note of that
>before we lose track.
>
>On that note, I shall not make any more contributions
>as it appears, a lot has been said and I wonder
>whether this helps us in the struggle to topple Yahya
>Jammeh through the ballot-box.
>
>Come October 2001 Gambia must be free as Yahya must go
>
>Have a wonderful morning.
>
>Sanusi.
>
>--- Ousman Jallow Bojang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > In a
>message dated 7/11/01 2:15:11 AM Pacific
> > Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
> > > "I hope you people understand that by focusing on
> > > Chongan's past record as a soldier/police officer
> > only
> > > makes things difficult for us. If this is the
> > approach
> > > then surely people like Sir Dawda K Jawara, OJ
> > Jallow
> > > and many others cannot speak out about Human
> > Rights
> > > violation in The Gambia, since we all know what
> > > happened after the events of July 1981."
> >
> > Mr. Owens,
> > I cannot any more to your above words. This is what
> > we should try to avoid.
> > Mr. Ngum raised some very important points against
> > Chongan and to my surprise
> > they were substantiated by Mr. Joe Sambou. And all
> > the Mr. Ngum is trying to
> > say is that for Mr. Chongan to be playing victim
> > when he was a recipient of
> > his own medication does not mean that he is trying
> > to justify what happened
> > to Mr. Chongan.
> > And one thing I cannot understand is that Chongan
> > was defending the "legal"
> > regime but those who are defending this regime
> > despite with all her faults
> > are called others.
> > Come on now. Let us all be real here. As brother Ous
> > Ngum said, let us call
> > "a damn spade what it is."
> >
> > Ousman Bojang.
> >
> >
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