Jobs,
Thank you very much, for speaking your mind. Well, we have agreed that Ebou owe
us explainations, and i have said that I am not defending him, so i cannot see
the double standard i am playing here. Is my sympathy the double standard? If
so, i will accept your analyse.
Elhajj.
baboucarr jobarteh skrev:
> Bro Elhajj Mustapha,
>
> I had tried not to address you on this issue but to be honest with you your
> incessant erratic approach and inconsistencies on Ebou Jallow saga is
> mind-boggling.The more posting you send about this issue,the more the trail
> of your double standards becomes more pronounced.It's just an observation
> and no hard feelings whatsoever from this end.Peace!
>
> Jobs.
>
> >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
> >Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 02:28:45 +0100
> >
> >Joe,
> >You are very correct, that i should not leave the burden of calling on the
> >thieves with you. But calling them thieves without having any proof infront
> >of
> >me, could be called as a deformation of character. A rational
> >decision-maker
> >always goes by the preponderance of the evidence. One must be able to proof
> >his
> >/ her case " beyond a reasonable doubt " that is to proof that leaves you
> >firmly
> >convinced of the defendant`s guilt. Joe, honestly you and I know who the
> >thieves
> >are in the Gambia. They all acquired their wealth infront of us, without
> >even
> >going out of the Gambia. How on earth did they get such wealth with the
> >small
> >salaries they were getting? Joe,
> >we as a "Ndongohs" frankly, you know all the thieves. You see Matarr
> >frankly
> >admitted that, but he is right to say that they did not get access to them
> >in
> >other forums like the G-L. We have all rights to follow all the thieves,
> >but let
> >us treat them equally the same way we are treating Ebou.
> >
> >Elhajj.
> >
> >Joe Sambou skrev:
> >
> > > Jabou and Elhajj, thanks for your exchange. However, Elhajj, you are a
> > > Gambian too. How come you want to leave us the burden of calling on all
> > > thieves that stole from our people. If you know of any, why wait for
> > > someone else to do the pointing? It should be incumbent on all of us to
> >do
> > > the pointing. Most of us, including yourself talked about Jammeh and
> >Jawara
> > > administration thieves, so I do not understand why you think we are
> >singling
> > > out Ebou. Like I said, no thief is immune. If you know of any others
> >that
> > > we should take on, please point them out. In the mean time, I will deal
> > > with Ebou Jallow.
> > >
> > > Chi Jaama
> > >
> > > Joe Sambou
> > >
> > > >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
> > > >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:03:27 +0100
> > > >
> > > >Jabou,
> > > >I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ". In
> >my
> > > >opinion,
> > > >all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more
> >than
> > > >what
> > > >Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see
> >them
> > > >attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being
> >attacked. I
> > > >made
> > > >it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his
> >action,
> > > > but i
> > > >cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What
> > > >about the
> > > >others ?
> > > >Jabou, you know that Ebou did not give me a penny on this amount. I
> > > >repeatedly
> > > >said that i sympathize with Ebou, because of the antagonisms he faces
> > > >within the
> > > >Gambian community. But let people understand that, one can only
> >sympathize
> > > >with a
> > > >friend / relative / whatever / when they face difficulties, but you
> >cannot
> > > >change
> > > >the process of the truth. The truth will always be the truth! I hope
> >my
> > > >fellow
> > > >G-Lers will understand my positon not to misjudge me. Frankly, I did
> >not
> > > >regret
> > > >joining the L, because i met with old friends, met with new friends and
> > > >usually
> > > >get a lot of fun here. So, I highly appreciate this gathering, and also
> > > >respect
> > > >their views on our debates. It is not always that we will see eye to
> >eye on
> > > >issues, but it does make us to be enemies. Let us just disagree with
> > > >respect, not
> > > >to creat enemity between us.
> > > >
> > > >Happy Ramadan
> > > >Elhajj.
> > > >
> > > >Jabou Joh skrev:
> > > >
> > > > > Elhadj,
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope you are being sarcastic, because whether it was taken as Ebou
> >did
> > > >or
> > > > > taken in secret as other did, it all amounts to the same thing, and
> >as
> > > >far as
> > > > > I am concerned, they are all thieves, whether they took it during
> >the
> > > >Jawara
> > > > > Era or now in various forms. A thief is a thief, and no amount of
> > > >smoothing
> > > > > over can ever change that. If one takes what does not belong to
> >them,
> > > >and
> > > > > worse still, if what they took was entrusted to them on behalf of
> >the
> > > >people,
> > > > > or by the people it puts them into a category that no decent person
> > > >wants to
> > > > > belong to.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, mentioning the thievery practiced by our government officials
> >past
> > > >and
> > > > > present very much belongs on Gambia-L, and why?
> > > > > Because this is a gathering of Gambians, and if such talk does not
> > > >belong
> > > > > here, then where in heaven's name does it belong then, in the
> >closet? We
> > > >have
> > > > > done too much of that, always trying to hush hush the misdeeds of
> >those
> > > >who
> > > > > should exercise the highest moral character because they are the
> > > >guardians of
> > > > > what little assets we have,
> > > > > and all that this does is to send the message that one can do
> >anything
> > > >and
> > > > > get away with it. No more. If they do it, we will talk about it loud
> >and
> > > > > clear for the whole World to hear.No hard feelings Elhadj, and i am
> >sure
> > > >you
> > > > > will agree with me because i do believe you are a man of ethics, and
> > > >truth
> > > > > can never be the equivalent of falsehood as the holy Qur'an tells
> >us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sister Jabou Joh
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/24/01 6:11:53 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jabou,
> > > > > > I am sorry to say, that the truth you have mentioned in your mail,
> > > >should
> > > > > > not be
> > > > > > mentioned on the Gambia-L. Ebou Jallow is the ONLY THIEF who has
> >ever
> > > > > > stolen the
> > > > > > coffers of our country. All the rest who took our coffers in the
> >past
> > > >37
> > > > > > years
> > > > > > has borrowed what they took. We hope the so called truthful G-Lers
> > > >will ask
> > > > > > them,
> > > > > > when they will pay back our money? Some are running their
> >progressive
> > > > > > businesses,
> > > > > > and others are sitting in their Mansions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elhajj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jabou Joh skrev:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In a message dated 11/23/2001 7:57:24 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Samba and co,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I mean it when I said Ebou is Man. To apologise after all he
> >siad
> > > >and
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > against Jammeh and this Government, it is unbelievable. I
> >could
> > > >not
> > > > > > beleive
> > > > > > > > my eyes when I saw the original letter. At first I thought it
> >was
> > > >fake.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ebou Jallow has done so much damage to President Jammeh and
> >this
> > > > > > Government
> > > > > > > > and I do not think he will be forgivened.I think this is all a
> >CIA
> > > > > > plot. I
> > > > > > > > have know Ebou Jallow we had a good relation and we still do,
> >but
> > > >I just
> > > > > > > > hope he is not stupid enough to step his foot in this country.
> >He
> > > >will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > tried and jailed. Even if President Jammeh forgives him,
> >others
> > > >would
> > > > > > not.
> > > > > > > > He has done wrong to others too, not only President Jammeh.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He is a man. He knows what people would say about him and he
> >still
> > > >came
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > in public apologising. I think Ebou is being paid and
> >manipulated
> > > >by the
> > > > > > > > CIA. I might be wrong but this is my feeling. I do not see
> > > >anything that
> > > > > > > > would save Ebou Jallow from being punished for what he did if
> >he
> > > >comes
> > > > > > > > back.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PEACE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tombong
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But Tombong,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With all due respect, Ebou Jallow has not done anything that
> >Jammeh
> > > >and co
> > > > > > > have not done, and on a much larger scale infact. Seems to me
> >that
> > > >he is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > the only one who needs to be tried and jailed, so this is a case
> >of
> > > >" the
> > > > > > pot
> > > > > > > calling the kettel black". It is a strange thing when criminals
> >try
> > > >to
> > > > > > point
> > > > > > > fingers at each other.
> > > > > > >
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