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Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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Suntou, Mbye,
 
I am following your conversation and writhing with ominous glee. Suntou I  
think our brother Sey is onto som'n. Could Jinns be viruses???? its worth  
further study. Ebola, the Human immuno-deficiency Virus, Bird Flu, Denghe, Mad  
Cow, etc. and on account of their mutative attributes (camouflage). I  wonder!!
 
BTW, I ain't marrying nobody I can't friggin see. Fire up the friggin Kiln  
Mbye! What a wonderful weekend!
 
Haruna.
 
In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:34:20 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
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Thanks  Mr Sey for asking this questions.
I am assuming that you are a  Muslim, if i am wrong please correct me. if you 
are, then i will refer you to  certain verses of the Quran and specifically 
to a chapter talking about the  existence of jinns and how the manipulate some 
people.
Jinns are  another creation of God the most high. they came from their won 
ancestor just  like we as humans came from Adam and Eve. Jinns came from a 
creature referred  to as Iblis or the Devil or Satan.
read quran chapter 2 verse 34,  chapter 7 verse 11-18, chapter 15 verse 
31-44, chapter 17 verse 61-65, chapter  18 verse 50, chapter 20 verse 116-120, 
chapter 34 verse 20-21, and chapter 38  verse 71-85.
and also chapter 5 verse 91, chapter 7 verses 200-201,  chapter 114 verses 
4-6, chapter 20 verse 120, and finally, chapter 7 verses  20,21,27,175.

Brother Sey, read this verses. The  quran abundantly warm mankind against our 
mortal enemy the devil and his  off-springs.
now coming to your questions

1. What dose jinns look like humans or animals birds ?
truly i don't  know how Jinns look like. what is evident in many hadiths or 
narration of the  prophet of Islam is that, Jinns can take the form many 
creatures, especially  dogs, cats, snake, birds and even humans. there are base of 
deception, so they  can take a form necessary for them to be able to deceive 
their targets. those  who incant their names can tell us may be how their Jinns 
appear to them.  there have been many narration by people in the Gambia of 
people going mad due  to seeing a certain Jinn they were calling. this is best 
known as too leeeya  muta (the name as made him crazy.) quiet a lot of young 
would be marabouts go  crazy due to this phenomenon. so jinn can feel a room in a 
Snake form or a big  bird very scary to the caller.
according to other sources, Jinn  answer to people with the right age, so if 
one due to greed wish to have a  jinn answer to him, and his age is below the 
required limit, you may go  mad.
the Ahamadiyas. dispute there being a Jinn, but i would rather  believe in 
explanation of the noble prophet of Islam, than the ahamadiya  folks.

2. How do they live and were do they eat and drink like us  ?
some hadiths stated that Jinn, live in a parallel world to us.  they dwell in 
remote places, since we cannot see them, they pick through dirt  and 
uncovered food. this is why a strong tradition exist among Muslims to make  sure food 
is covered and that before night fall, children are brought indoors.  Jinns 
eat and drink in ways God made possible for them but you can conduct  further 
reading in that aspect. in fact there is judo-Christan explanation of  demons 
around as well.

3. Are they Muslims Christians or  whatever?
the quran states that some Jinns are muslims and some are  not. some also 
state that jinn hear the word of god from the environment they  dwell. so if they 
become convince about Christianity, they may adopt it just  like we humans do.
4. What languages do they speak?
i don't know  the language they speak among themselves. what is clear is that 
they  communicate with people who invoke them in that person's language.
5. How  comes we can see them and they can see us?
may be you wanted to say,  "how comes we can't see them and they can see us". 
to this i would say, this  is the wishes of God, that i have no answer to. 
God does what he wills. he  made lions, different, tigers, and even we humans, 
we are different. some us  are white, some are brown, black and yellow.
6. Can we marry (husband/wife)  jinns and have children with them?
people made remarks to that  effect, there are some narrations that some 
people marry Jinns. but what the  Islamic stand point is that, we are forbidden in 
marrying Jinn. we are not the  same make-up. they are created form fire and 
we from clay. it is not suppose  to happen. i haven't read any text stating 
whether people marry jinns. but it  is a common saying in the Gambia that some 
people have Jinn woman.
7. Are  all jinns wicked towards human beings?
not all jinn are wicked. the  quran states that some Jinn are Muslims and 
obey the revelation. they come and  listen to the recitation of the quran. the 
majority obeys their ancestor the  Satan who rebel against God.
8.  if so why do hate  us?
i gave the reason for that on mt earlier thread "our  relationship with the 
Satan as humans". 
thank you brother Sey for  asking, i appreciate it. my intention is just to 
clarify a practise which is  chronic in our region. i do not intend to tarnish 
or castigate any one. if we  see evil, our intentions should be to remove. May 
Allah forgive me and  continue to guide us. amen. the errors are mine.



baboucarr Sey  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Suntou very interesting reading  Marabouts Jinns.
I have some questions for if you can help answer  them.

What dose jinns look like humans or animals birds ?

How do  they live and were do they eat and drink like us ?

Are they Muslims  Christians or whatever?
What languages do they speak?
How comes we can  see them and they can see us?
Can we marry (husband/wife) jinns and have  children with them?
Are all jinns wicked towards human beings? if so why do  hate us?

Suntou I hope you can find time to mystify or satisfy my  curiosity 
concerning the this subject,
thank you in advance  
e
Mby



Let modesty be the rule of   observance.



----- Original Message ----
From: SUNTOU TOURAY  
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2008 7:18:52  AM
Subject: kelefa sanneh book

i was given a book about the life of  kelefa sanneh by SOAS.
it is interesting if you are a nyancho. here  is my comments.  
http://suntoumana.blogspot.com/

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