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omar joof <[log in to unmask]>
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Folks,
When it comes to dealing with the APRC regime, adhering to ethical and moral
principles wont work. You  do that and you are giving them time and space to
perpetrate their abnoxious tricks. This regime is motivated by greed and
they will never think twice about doing anything that in their perception,
would undermind the strength of their opponents and perpetuate their stay in
power. A regime that sent its agents to Europe to discredit Gambians
struggling to make ends meet there, will not hesitate to do the same in
north America, particularly in the wake of palpable efforts being made here
to kick them out of power.
Knowing the deplorable economic situation back home, I earnestly would
regret any Gambian being sent packing, howver, the interests and welfare of
those who support our course for change must be defended. It gets to a
point, even if we dont go on the offensive, we must take action in
self-defense. There is no doudt therefore,that action against their network
of liars and saboteurs is justifiable.


>From: "Ceesay, Soffie" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
>Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:36:19 -0700
>
>Joe,
>
>I am still in disbelief over this matter.  When I was apprised of their
>intentions around the time of Yaya's trip here, I chucked it to scare
>tactics to keep us from demonstrating.  The fact that it has gained some
>mileage and from country representatives, no less, is just unbelievable.
>That we have a leadership that would sanction such acts, knowing full well
>the reasons why people are leaving Gambia in droves, knowing fully well,
>the
>impoverished conditions that people are living under and that the token
>sums
>we send help alleviate this suffering a bit, leaves a bile taste in my
>mouth.  And remember, only a handful of families have children "hustling"
>out here in order to help themselves and their families.  What about the
>suffering and impoverishment of the not-so-fortunate?  If I sound
>incoherent, please excuse me, my heart cries.
>
>Thank you for speaking to Tijan in a language that he and his handlers
>understand but I was hoping that these were rumors, not actions that Lena
>and Tijan intended to engage in.  This is the apex of "sohorr"!!!  Until
>his
>diplomatic status, Tijan was one of us, or those he now wants to report.
>The lengths people will go to, destroying another human being for the sake
>of what they themselves cannot even articulate.  Why?
>
>Soffie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Sambou [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:13 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
>
>
>Malamin, thanks for your observations.  However, in this climate we are in
>one will not be given a second chance to go to Canada.  You will either
>languish in some detension camp for months or deported straight home.
>Currently, folks who overstay their visas are being nabbed at Greyhound bus
>stations by the INS.  Instead of waiting until one is nabbed, why don't we
>nib this threat thing in the bud.  I did just that and an agreement was
>reached to cease and desist.  That is the language they needed to hear, not
>cuddling.  Keep up the good work.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe Sambou
>
>
> >From: Malamin Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
> >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:56:02 +0000
> >
> >Someone made a very interesting point on the issue below. If our embassy
>is
> >informing on it's citizens for deportations, that could be grounds for
> >filing for asylum for fear of torture from our impotent APRC.
> >If the US won't grant asylum, head to canada.
> >
> >Regards,
> >MJohnson
> >
> >
> >>From: Malamin Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
> >>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:36:57 +0000
> >>
> >>Joe,
> >>
> >>I hope the APRC people will NOT do anything stupid here. How can one
> >>report
> >>the same hard working people responsible for supporting their families
>and
> >>keeping the economy in Gambia afloat because of political intolerance.
>Is
> >>the APRC afraid of the steady drum beat emanting in the diaspora? I
>think
> >>they are better off trying to find a way to eleviate the suffering of
>the
> >>masses back home than trying to rob honest Gambians from making a decent
> >>living.
> >>
> >>The thing that bothers me is Joe mentioned 2 employees of the Gambia
> >>Embassy
> >>who may be behind this threat. Can you imagine our own diplomatic
> >>representatives feeding us to the INS as oppose to protecting us.
> >>Diplomatic
> >>missions that truely represent their citizens are lobbying congress and
> >>the
> >>Bush admin to ease the suffering/hardships caused by 911. Just remember
> >>most
> >>of us who are legal used to be illegal at some point. Besides being
> >>illegal
> >>does not make one a criminal
> >>
> >>Just my two cents.
> >>MJohnson
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Jassey Conteh <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>><[log in to unmask]>
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
> >>>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:28:25 -0400
> >>>
> >>>-------Original Message-------
> >>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Sent: 07/24/03 12:51 PM
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
> >>>
> >>>Comrades:
> >>>
> >>>While we disagree with the APRC, we must rise above them in not
>reporting
> >>>any Gambian who is here illegally.  We all know that things are tough
>in
> >>>The Gambia, and if we resort to vindictive attitudes, we may be
>affecting
> >>>innocent beneficiaries in The Gambia.
> >>>
> >>>Please let's refrain from reporting any Gambian.
> >>>
> >>>Naphiyo,
> >>>
> >>>Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> >>> >
> >>> > Folks, a while ago, the APRC sycophants threatened to report any
> >>>Illegal
> >>>Gambian opposed to their misrule to the Immigration Department for
> >>>deportation.  I had also promised them that I will do likewise to their
> >>>supporters if they act on their bluff.  Now, I heard from reliable
> >>>sources
> >>>that they are beginning to call folks to threaten them.  I am asking
> >>>folks
> >>>to provide me names of their supporters, from "Yai/bai Compin" to the
> >>>"Saat"
> >>>that overstayed their visit.  Please send me a private mail of the
>names,
> >>>addresses, tel. numbers, or work places of anyone that fits that
> >>>description.  Your privacy will not be compromised.  So, I am appealing
> >>>to
> >>>all and sundry to act.  We cannot be complacent with this threat.  I
>also
> >>>want the names of any illegals that relate to anyone that works for the
> >>>Embassy in DC.  They also shall not be spared.  Now, let's see if the
>two
> >>>slimes (Lena Manga and Tijan Ceesay) are going to proceed with their
> >>>so-called dirty business.  Act on your threat and you shall be hit hard
> >>>too.
> >>>   If you live in a glass house you should not throw stones.  So,
>folks,
> >>>keep
> >>>them coming.
> >>>
> >>>Chi Jaama
> >>>
> >>>Joe Sambou
> >>>
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