Soffie, thanks for adding your voice.  A real life person went through this
and is a member of this very Mighty Post, but I would rather protect his
privacy.  I too was baffled that this could happen, when I got the call.  I
hope we do not revisit this again, but like I said earlier, my cards are
close to my chest.
Please continue the good work.

Chi Jaama

Joe Sambou


>From: "Ceesay, Soffie" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
>Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 09:36:19 -0700
>
>Joe,
>
>I am still in disbelief over this matter.  When I was apprised of their
>intentions around the time of Yaya's trip here, I chucked it to scare
>tactics to keep us from demonstrating.  The fact that it has gained some
>mileage and from country representatives, no less, is just unbelievable.
>That we have a leadership that would sanction such acts, knowing full well
>the reasons why people are leaving Gambia in droves, knowing fully well,
>the
>impoverished conditions that people are living under and that the token
>sums
>we send help alleviate this suffering a bit, leaves a bile taste in my
>mouth.  And remember, only a handful of families have children "hustling"
>out here in order to help themselves and their families.  What about the
>suffering and impoverishment of the not-so-fortunate?  If I sound
>incoherent, please excuse me, my heart cries.
>
>Thank you for speaking to Tijan in a language that he and his handlers
>understand but I was hoping that these were rumors, not actions that Lena
>and Tijan intended to engage in.  This is the apex of "sohorr"!!!  Until
>his
>diplomatic status, Tijan was one of us, or those he now wants to report.
>The lengths people will go to, destroying another human being for the sake
>of what they themselves cannot even articulate.  Why?
>
>Soffie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Sambou [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 12:13 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
>
>
>Malamin, thanks for your observations.  However, in this climate we are in
>one will not be given a second chance to go to Canada.  You will either
>languish in some detension camp for months or deported straight home.
>Currently, folks who overstay their visas are being nabbed at Greyhound bus
>stations by the INS.  Instead of waiting until one is nabbed, why don't we
>nib this threat thing in the bud.  I did just that and an agreement was
>reached to cease and desist.  That is the language they needed to hear, not
>cuddling.  Keep up the good work.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe Sambou
>
>
> >From: Malamin Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
> >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:56:02 +0000
> >
> >Someone made a very interesting point on the issue below. If our embassy
>is
> >informing on it's citizens for deportations, that could be grounds for
> >filing for asylum for fear of torture from our impotent APRC.
> >If the US won't grant asylum, head to canada.
> >
> >Regards,
> >MJohnson
> >
> >
> >>From: Malamin Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
> >>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 21:36:57 +0000
> >>
> >>Joe,
> >>
> >>I hope the APRC people will NOT do anything stupid here. How can one
> >>report
> >>the same hard working people responsible for supporting their families
>and
> >>keeping the economy in Gambia afloat because of political intolerance.
>Is
> >>the APRC afraid of the steady drum beat emanting in the diaspora? I
>think
> >>they are better off trying to find a way to eleviate the suffering of
>the
> >>masses back home than trying to rob honest Gambians from making a decent
> >>living.
> >>
> >>The thing that bothers me is Joe mentioned 2 employees of the Gambia
> >>Embassy
> >>who may be behind this threat. Can you imagine our own diplomatic
> >>representatives feeding us to the INS as oppose to protecting us.
> >>Diplomatic
> >>missions that truely represent their citizens are lobbying congress and
> >>the
> >>Bush admin to ease the suffering/hardships caused by 911. Just remember
> >>most
> >>of us who are legal used to be illegal at some point. Besides being
> >>illegal
> >>does not make one a criminal
> >>
> >>Just my two cents.
> >>MJohnson
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Jassey Conteh <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>><[log in to unmask]>
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Re: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
> >>>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:28:25 -0400
> >>>
> >>>-------Original Message-------
> >>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>Sent: 07/24/03 12:51 PM
> >>>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>>Subject: Compiling a List Of APRC Illegals
> >>>
> >>>Comrades:
> >>>
> >>>While we disagree with the APRC, we must rise above them in not
>reporting
> >>>any Gambian who is here illegally.  We all know that things are tough
>in
> >>>The Gambia, and if we resort to vindictive attitudes, we may be
>affecting
> >>>innocent beneficiaries in The Gambia.
> >>>
> >>>Please let's refrain from reporting any Gambian.
> >>>
> >>>Naphiyo,
> >>>
> >>>Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> >>> >
> >>> > Folks, a while ago, the APRC sycophants threatened to report any
> >>>Illegal
> >>>Gambian opposed to their misrule to the Immigration Department for
> >>>deportation.  I had also promised them that I will do likewise to their
> >>>supporters if they act on their bluff.  Now, I heard from reliable
> >>>sources
> >>>that they are beginning to call folks to threaten them.  I am asking
> >>>folks
> >>>to provide me names of their supporters, from "Yai/bai Compin" to the
> >>>"Saat"
> >>>that overstayed their visit.  Please send me a private mail of the
>names,
> >>>addresses, tel. numbers, or work places of anyone that fits that
> >>>description.  Your privacy will not be compromised.  So, I am appealing
> >>>to
> >>>all and sundry to act.  We cannot be complacent with this threat.  I
>also
> >>>want the names of any illegals that relate to anyone that works for the
> >>>Embassy in DC.  They also shall not be spared.  Now, let's see if the
>two
> >>>slimes (Lena Manga and Tijan Ceesay) are going to proceed with their
> >>>so-called dirty business.  Act on your threat and you shall be hit hard
> >>>too.
> >>>   If you live in a glass house you should not throw stones.  So,
>folks,
> >>>keep
> >>>them coming.
> >>>
> >>>Chi Jaama
> >>>
> >>>Joe Sambou
> >>>
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