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Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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Last line should read "whose names are on the account"

Chi Jaama

Joe Sambou


>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [>-<] Coalition make it or break it- BANK ACCOUNT
>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:28:29 +0000
>
>Abdul, thanks for your offer to help.  Since the account resides in
>Atlanta,
>it is easier to just go ahead with your process with Kebba Foon or Saloum
>Njie, whose name is on the account currently.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe Sambou
>
>
>>From: Abdoul Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: [>-<] Coalition make it or break it- BANK ACCOUNT
>>Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:34:11 +0000
>>
>>Joe,
>>
>>Thanks for your lengthy explaination.  I have to say that I did not make
>>my
>>suggestion to deny that efforts were not made on your  part.
>>
>>Like I said, I can help in PRIVATE as long it does not involve drug
>>dealers
>>moving along to Atlanta.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Abdoul
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: [>-<] Coalition make it or break it- BANK ACCOUNT
>>>Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 23:42:58 +0000
>>>
>>>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Joe Sambou"
>>><[log in to unmask]> ]
>>>
>>>
>>>Abdoul, thanks for your input.  With all the noise, the account has been
>>>residing in Atlanta, since September and not in Illinois.  I'm just
>>>keeping
>>>the books.  I don't know about Atlanta, but in Illinois you cannot open
>>>an
>>>account as a not for profit without registering with the state,
>>>especially
>>>with the current terrorism climate.  The issue was registering the fund
>>>and
>>>the accusations that ensued.  Remember, we are talking about registering
>>>a
>>>fund that has a political purpose, not for music production, etc.  But,
>>>since folks are licking their chops about how easy it is to register the
>>>fund, well they are Gambian just as Joe and Saloum, let them just deliver
>>>and it's as good as gold.  Saloum also volunteered to invite lawyers to
>>>see
>>>whether we can do as the Cubans, Israelis, etc., contrary to the
>>>misinformation abound.  For those interested, way back in June or July I
>>>had listed all the reasons why we cannot legally, and it is in the
>>>archives
>>>for folks to reference, and that is after meeting with Bank One
>>>officials.
>>>Saloum's strategy was to try to do like the Cubans, not trying to fit a
>>>circle in a square as it's been mongered.
>>>
>>>"Depending on the nature of the organization, my suggestion to Joe is to
>>>apply for one for the main purpose of depositing the contributions.  It
>>>is
>>>really not a difficult thing to do."
>>>
>>>Abdul, the above cannot be done in Illinois, may be in Atlanta.  If
>>>anyone
>>>is reading from Illinois, please give a contrary fact to mine if it
>>>exist.
>>>We registered the Gambian Association in Chicago and had to register with
>>>the state, even to just open an account, because that is how the state
>>>keeps tab as to what org. should pay taxes and those that don't.  Totally
>>>different from an individual account.  We have been talking about this
>>>for
>>>almost six months, I'm surprised as to why folks from other states that
>>>do
>>>not require registration did not step in.  Or, is that not the case?
>>>
>>>I had also suggested to Dr. Saine, George Sarr, Kebba Foon, et al to open
>>>an account in the Gambia to circumvent this problem, back in April.
>>>However, now I see it is a new idea coming from George.  I also consulted
>>>with Soffie Ceesay as to how they did it for the April 10 victims, but
>>>you
>>>cannot just walk in a bank in Illinois and tender any name that is not
>>>yours and open an account without registering with the state.  Boy, Drug
>>>Dealers may just want to relocate to Atlanta.  It does not cut it in
>>>Illinois.  You have to register with the state!  The rules may be
>>>different
>>>in Atlanta or other states.
>>>
>>>"The bank will ask for a tax identification and in some rare cases an
>>>article of association."
>>>
>>>Abdul, in Illinois, the GAC had to do the above and much more to have an
>>>account named "The Gambian Association of Chicago", so we do not pay
>>>taxes
>>>and thus cannot engage in certain activities and discriminatory
>>>practices.
>>>I also approached the GAC to use our tax ID to open the account for the
>>>fund, but was voted down, yes we had to vote.
>>>
>>>"I really don't think that opening a bank account should be tied to
>>>registering the fund."
>>>
>>>Again, Abdul, in Illinois, you have to.  Besides, registering of the
>>>account has always been the issue, so crooks like Joe and kebba will not
>>>steal the collections.  :-)!
>>>
>>>"This way people can write their contributions in the name of  Save The
>>>Gambia rather than the individuals name."
>>>
>>>Abdul, believe me the last thing I need is to be in charge of anyone's
>>>money but mines, especially in this instance.  Kebba, if you are reading,
>>>you heard Abdul, so let the magic work.
>>>
>>>Chi Jaama
>>>
>>>Joe sambou
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: "Abdoul Njie" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: Re: [>-<] Coalition make it or break it- BANK ACCOUNT Date:
>>>>Thu,
>>>>20 Nov 2003 16:01:11 +0000
>>>>
>>>>Please allow me to add one suggestion.
>>>>
>>>>In my involvement with organisations such as Gamlanta, GRO, UGOA,
>>>>Juffure
>>>>productions and AGERA, all that was required to open a bank account was
>>>>a
>>>>tax ID number which can actually be faxed to the IRS and within 2 weeks
>>>>it will hit your mail box.
>>>>
>>>>Depending on the nature of the organisation, my suggestion to Joe is to
>>>>apply for one for the main purpose of depositing the contributions.  It
>>>>is
>>>>really not a difficult thing to do.
>>>>
>>>>The bank will ask for a tax identification and in some rare cases an
>>>>article of association.
>>>>
>>>>I really don't think that opening a bank account should be tied to
>>>>registering the fund.  This way people can write their contributions in
>>>>the name of  Save The Gambia rather than the individuals name.
>>>>
>>>>I can show you how in PRIVATE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ablie Njie-Lekbi
>>>>Atlanta
>>>>
>>>>>From: "Habib Ghanim" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>Subject: Re: [>-<] Coalition make it or break it- Joe
>>>>>Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:16:53 +0000
>>>>>
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