Thanks Malanding for your prompt response:
"Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not
Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification."
I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to protect Pa
Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond
reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or
(2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit authority
to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list.
Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and
protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we speak.
Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint to protect his
privacy?
There appears to be two different thresholds set for management action on
the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the integrity
of this respected list.
Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch my head
too. Have a great night.
-BambaLaye
On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
> Sister Jabou and BambaLaye,
> While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal mail
> sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I still believe that it would be
> unprecedented for management to delist Ebou Jallow without evidence
> tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa Nderry's privacy. As far as
> I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to report his address being spoofed to G-l
> management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails without
> conscent.
> Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not
> Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification.
> Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the managers that Pa
> contacted them about the suspended account.
>
> While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine it
> not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some of whom
> he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be fair to
> state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be resubscribed today, I
> hope he would in the future be unambiguous about the status of Ebou's
> postings, but until the G-l management cannot act.
>
> Malanding
>
> [log in to unmask] wrote:
>
>>
>>Laye,
>>
>>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to de-list
>>Ebou Jallow because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site was
>> illegally
>>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the hackers
>> ( and
>>we all saw that evidence which the management said was the reason they
>> decided
>>to de-list his email address for the time being) and Ebou Jallow's
>> posting
>>of emails he clearly labels as intercepted private communication to Pa
>> Nderry
>>was what led me to also suggest that Ebou Jallow should be de-listed but
>>Malanding offered an explanation that still has me scratching my head.
>>
>>Jabou Joh
>>
>>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>[log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>>List Managers:
>>
>>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry Mbai's claim
>>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou Jallow
>>([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to demonstrate
>> to
>>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai to forward
>>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any satisfactory
>>demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr. Jallow, he
>>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of the list.
>>
>>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim of illegal
>>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted - because he
>>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies logic (in
>> my
>>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the list with no
>>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my knowledge
>>so far.
>>
>>There has been precedent to such behavior on the list and the outcome
>> was
>>swift and clear to all.
>>
>>My apolgies if this issue is being dealt with under the shadows.
>>
>>-BambaLaye
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm, Ebou Jallow said:
>>
>>
>>>*From*: [log in to unmask]
>>>*Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM
>>>*To*: [log in to unmask]
>>> *Subject*: Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation please
>>>
>>>Pa Nderry,
>>>
>>>I am a visitor to your site. Congrats for setting up the online news
>>>service. I enjoy alot going through it .However what is disturbing to
>>> me
>>>is
>>>that people's private lives are constantly dragged into what seems to
>>> have
>>>no links with issues that are relevant to national development. My
>>> first
>>> example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the second
>>> is
>>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him but I
>>>think
>>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is living with, or
>>> who
>>>he
>>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It sounds so ridiculous to me. It
>>> makes
>>>me
>>>wonder do we have some online saints? Really not. Talking about
>>>corruption,
>>>politics and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but trying
>>> to
>>>smear others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever your
>>> source
>>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one should
>>> have
>>>the
>>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping silent entrenches the
>>> problem.
>>>If
>>>it is true, I know it is not only the said ambassador who is guilty of
>>>sexual harassment in the Gambia, not only in government, it is every
>>> where
>>>in our schools, in the private offices, in our houses, in the media. I
>>> am
>>>presently working on a book to be published in some months ahead and
>>> one
>>> of
>>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am not
>>> trying
>>>to
>>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government officer but I am
>>> writing
>>>an
>>>independent opinion and certainly as a journalist as well. I know his
>>> name
>>>casually like the name of any other person of high portfolio in
>>>government.
>>>Thats all but I feel it is not right to denigrate him on no grounds, I
>>>think
>>> it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his family or
>>> alone.
>>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside the
>>> country.
>>>If
>>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern us as a nation, why not,
>>>belch
>>>it out, sure we all need to know, but otherwise, things like who drinks
>>>beer
>>>or has a girl friend in the corner is not substantiate enough to use
>>>valuable time on our newspapers that have such a lofty mission. We have
>>>more
>>> pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning that
>>> Katy
>>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know her but I
>>>feel
>>>it is equally ridiculous to say that.
>>>Most times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading reports
>>> or
>>> some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper report
>>> is
>>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor a
>>> summary
>>>of
>>>a boigraphical tale.
>>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I am saying keep up the good work and congrats for
>>>establishing the newspaper online. But focus on better issues, we have
>>>loads
>>>of bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload.
>>>
>>> Mariama Khan
>>>Postgraduate student
>>>Turin, italy
>>>
>>> autho- Futa Toro
>>>
>>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting lips
>>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia
>>>
>>>Mariama Khan
>>>
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