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Joe,I  share your hopes that some folks would not just jump in to muddy the waters with intent to distract us from the real issues. Even more importantly, we hope folks would be constrctive in their criticisms and not indulge in insults and name callings.That aside, I have closely looked at your catalogue of facts below, but none of them discredits the call for opposition leaders to resign and the coalitions to be dissolved. Instead your catalogue of facts render justifications for the resignation of one opposition leader who has not in anyway been exempted from the leaders asked to resign. All your references to The ARC, UDP, NRP represent indications of their failures for which their leaderships should take responsibility. Through your own words, you have atleast inadvertently agreed that they should all resign. This would constitute about half of the opposition leadership in The Gambia. We are in agrement I suppose?The bias in your write up emerges when you deal with NADD. Instead of criticising our own coalition leaders, you praise them and up to some point you refuse to think. This is at the point where you start to throw questions at those who have suggested that all opposition leaders should resign. I cant imagine that you do not know the answers to the questions you have posed. With respect,Omar Joof.> Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 16:21:47 +0000> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CALL for THE RESIGNATION of ALL Opposition leaders> To: [log in to unmask]> > Mo, thanks for your voice to this discussion.  You noted thus:> > "The current leaders failed during the past two elections and we have seen > how the electorate protested by not voting because of the lack of a unified > opposition."> > We all saw what unfolded here since 2000 and the number one constant in the > failure of the opposition is one party - the UDP, and one person Ousainou.  > If we start with the truth, we shall surely end with the truth.> > Fact: Ousainou and the UDP erroneously believed that they had the numbers > and all they needed is the PPP to win in 2001.  We begged them to come > together, to include the NRP and PDOIS and they flatly refused and we saw > what the result was.> > Fact: They erroreneously boycotted the NA elections that followed and some > of us gave them multiple reasons to contest, and they flatly refused, and we > all saw what followed.> > Fact: The NADD idea was germinating fast and Gambians caught up with it and > the one person that refused to attend meetings - Ousainou, is the one person > that reneged on all agreements that his own representatives agreed to, and > the same one that pulled the UDP out of NADD.> > Fact: With NADD, the opposition won more seats over the APRC and that got > Jammeh scared and that led for the arrest of OJ, Hamat, and Halifa.  How > come Ousainou was not challenged by this new voice, if as we are stating > unity was the way to go?> > Fact: Ousainou's manipulations paralyzed NADD and just like in 2001, he > managed to yank Hamat to his and our loss.  Where was this new voice at that > very moment?> > Fact: Gambians appealed to both NADD and the UDP to form a tactical alliance > to win more seats for the opposition, I think we all know what the answer is > - the UDP flatly refused.  Worst, their venom was directed at Halifa and are > happy that he lost his seat.  With a tactical alliance, the opposition could > have won at the very least 20 seats.  Now, how come we were all mute when it > mattered the most?> > Now, I want for someone to tell me (specifics), how Halifa and NADD failed > the opposition?  I want for someone to tell me what flaw or reservations > they saw in the NADD MOU, that the UDP and Ousainou signed and that Gambians > championed?  I want for someone to tell me what the ARC MOU is, or what they > stand for?  Since 2001, has anyone seen a UDP or NRP analysis on what they > stand for or explaining the the results of any contest, or policies of the > APRC since 1994?  It is only when we start with the truth that we shall end > with the truth.> > To address this important suggestion of the future of our nation, we need to > revisit our history in order to forge ahead.  We cannot scat around the > issues and speak in generalities, and we cannot pretend that we do not know > what brought us to this point.  Sooner or later when this discussion > matures, we shall find out that we must deal with the destructive forces > within the opposition before we can ever take a step ahead.  I hope we would > not revert to our old tricks of muddying the waters to avoid calling a spade > just what it is.  Let's continue with this very important venture of forming > our future.> > Chi Jaama> > Joe> > > > >From: Momodou Camara <[log in to unmask]>> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list              > ><[log in to unmask]>> >To: [log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: CALL for THE RESIGNATION of ALL Opposition leaders> >Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 19:33:24 -0500> >> >On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 14:06:56 +0100, Momodou S Sidibeh> ><[log in to unmask]> wrote:> >> > >The fact is that the entire Gambian Opposition leadership has failed, and> > >failed dismally. It failed not only to construct a serious united> >coalition> > >that would have offered a reasonable electoral challenge to the APRC. But> >in> > >that failure, seeds of even more discord within the Opposition have been> > >sown, thereby aggravating the prospects of any future attempts to build a> > >united coalition.> > >> > >I hope you will all join me in calling for the RESIGNATION of the> >leadership> > >of the entire Opposition in order to allow for a leadership transition in> > >their respective parties (and instead assume advisory roles); and where> > >there are no "suitable" candidates for leadership at present, it falls> >upon> > >the current leaders to take responsibility in nurturing the emergence of> > >qualified leadership candidates at least two years before the next> > >presidential elections.> > >> > >In my humble opinion, this is the way forward.> > >> > >With much respect,> > >Momodou S Sidibeh> >> >Tooma, this is what is expected of party leaders in a democratic setting.> >We have seen how party leaders in other parts of the world step down and> >thereby take responsibility for failing to win elections. Societies like> >the ones we currently live in; Sweden, Denmark and Germany are recent> >examples. Selection of a new leader in these countries was either> >unanimous or a competition between two or more factions in the party but> >at the end of the day they all stand behind the one who wins the majority> >vote. It’s an ideology that keeps them loyal to a party and not an> >individual.> >> >The opposition parties in my opinion should hold conventions at the> >earliest possible time where they should let new leaders be elected and> >let the current leaders assume advisory roles as you suggest.> >> >I share the same sentiments with you on this regard and I hope that every> >genuine opposition supporter see your suggestion in a positive light. The> >current leaders failed during the past two elections and we have seen how> >the electorate protested by not voting because of the lack of a unified> >opposition.> >> >It is now they should act instead hibernating the next four to five years.> >> >regards,> >Momodou camara> >> >¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> >To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > >Web interface> >at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> >> >To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > >http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> >To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:> >[log in to unmask]> >¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> > _________________________________________________________________> From predictions to trailers, check out the MSN Entertainment Guide to the > Academy Awards® > http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline1> > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:> [log in to unmask]> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
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