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>From: Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah
>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:15:09 -0000
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>Sanusi,
>
>Sorry I wasn't able to get to your question earlier, but I think you're
>asking the wrong person.  I did agree to Yama's postulation about the party
>structure being multi-faceted, but I also asked whether we know
>if there are any motives behind all of this.  That I don't have an answer
>to.
>
>We should not polish it up for the man coz he's the one that erred, NOT me.
>What if there was a Jola who probably left all of their commitments for the
>day to attend this meeting.  Are you telling me it's ok that he walks away
>without a clue of what was said?  We just can't polish this one properly.
>And with all the support given to the opposition (UDP especially) on this
>forum by many of you, not for once have you heard from the party leader,
>not
>even a thank you note.  And they probably got higher modem connections than
>Halifa's. The UDP party's trip was nothing more than a vacation/fund
>seeking
>drive to me.  We must learn to be fair in our judgements, judgements of
>oneself and of each other.  Not to drag this any further, I believe that
>Halifa is a better leader than ALL the other presidential candidates.  We
>need a leader, one who doesn't have to be right at all times, but one
>that can take blame for mishaps or at least explain their blunders.  If we
>are seeking for change, we must do so with a good leadership, and I simply
>don't see that in the other parties.
>
>In the absence of any further discussions on this topic, I will
>respectfully
>rest my case and move on.
>
>Essa
>
>
>
>>From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
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>>Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah
>>Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:14:03 +0100
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>>From [log in to unmask] Mon Jun 11 02:15:38 2001
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>>Comrade Conteh
>>
>>There  seem to be a confusion here. It wasn't me who
>>stated that Lawyer Darboe used the Mandinka language
>>throughout his speech. What I actually asked for was
>>what's wrong with the UDP hierarchy? I am still
>>awaiting a response from either Essa Thomas and Yama
>>Perhaps I will learn something new from them.
>>
>>Until then I hope you have a wonderful day.
>>
>>Sanusi
>>
>>
>>
>>--- Jassey Conteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >
>>Sanusi:
>> >
>> > Please allow me to intervene in this debabe.  Did
>> > you say that the UDP leader used Mandinka throughout
>> > his speech?  If that is the case, he had erred.
>> >
>> > Communication is vital in any society and should not
>> > be perceive that a language used is understood by
>> > everyone.  I hope Mr. Darboe will take this as a
>> > mistake and learn from it.
>> >
>> > We as Gambians must understand that tribalism has
>> > no place in our society.  It is also unfair to
>> > characterize that the use of Mandinka was tribal in
>> > nature.  Please let us grow up.  Our major problem
>> > is to unseat the dictator.  Our minor differences
>> > will help retain the dictator for five more years.
>> >
>> > Naphiyo,
>> >
>> > Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh,MBA
>> > Greensboro, NC/Kombo East Contituency.
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Sanusi Owens
>> > Date:         Sat, 9 Jun 2001 11:32:20 +0100
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Subject:      Re: Mr. H. Sallah
>> >
>> >
>> > > Essa and Yama
>> > >
>> > > What's wrong with UDP'S Hierarchy?
>> > >
>> > > Awaiting your answer.
>> > >
>> > > Sanusi
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- Elow Wole <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >
>> > Yama,
>> > > >
>> > > > You are quite right about the party hierarchy,
>> > but
>> > > > do we know what happens
>> > > > if the UDP party wins?  Are they going to
>> > maintain
>> > > > the same hierarchy?
>> > > > Right now, they are nowhere, and can assume any
>> > > > party "hierarchy" they want.
>> > > >   Do you know if there are any motives behind
>> > the
>> > > > party structure?  You and
>> > > > I can't answer such questions, only the leader
>> > can.
>> > > > That being the case, he
>> > > > should have known better than use Mandinka
>> > > > throughout his speech.  This is
>> > > > indeed relevant.  Like I said, a good leader
>> > should
>> > > > be easy to talk to, open
>> > > > to suggestions, and fair and impartial at all
>> > times.
>> > > >
>> > > > Essa
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >From: Kanja Darboe <[log in to unmask]>
>> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
>> > > > list
>> > > > ><[log in to unmask]>
>> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
>> > > > >Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah
>> > > > >Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:36:58 -0000
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>> > > > >Lasana, I agree with you wholeheartly... what
>> > some
>> > > > of these people do not
>> > > > >understand or conviently refuse to acknowledge
>> > is
>> > > > that a large population
>> > > > >of
>> > > > >the Gambians in New York do not speak English
>> > and
>> > > > having all three speakers
>> > > > >speak in one of the languages that will be
>> > > > understood by the majority that
>> > > > >attended the meeting was very appropraite.  Mr.
>> > > > Banna who reported on the
>> > > > >New York Meeting reported that a fellow at the
>> > > > meeting spoke in sarahule so
>> > > > >I am not sure why we are spending time
>> > scrutinizig
>> > > > what language someone
>> > > > >spoke in.  We have a bigger enemy to bring down
>> > > > come October, the beast
>> > > > >himself.. Yahya A.J.J. with his many titles.
>> > If
>> > > > one wants to critize the
>> > > > >UDP of been tribalist, just look at the party
>> > > > hierarchy and that speaks
>> > > > >volumes of the party ... we can't be pitting
>> > one
>> > > > opposition against the
>> > > > >other because all that creates is room for
>> > Yahya to
>> > > > enslave us for the next
>> > > > >five years.  So let's get our act together and
>> > get
>> > > > this moron out of there
>> > > > >rather than all of us been acting like
>> > political
>> > > > analyst and not offering
>> > > > >solutions. Have a good weekend!
>> > > > >Yama
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>From: Lasana Jorbateh <[log in to unmask]>
>> > > > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues
>> > mailing
>> > > > list
>> > > > >><[log in to unmask]>
>> > > > >>To: [log in to unmask]
>> > > > >>Subject: Re: Mr. H. Sallah
>> > > > >>Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:34:54 EDT
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>ELOW WALE
>> > > > >>                    PLEASE GIVE ME A BREAK !
>> > WHO
>> > > > IS A TRIBALIST ? ONE WHO
>> > > > >>SPEAKS IN HIS MOTHER TONGUE?
>> > > > >>                     THE UDP DELEGATION SPOKE
>> > IN
>> > > > THREE GAMBIAN LANGUAGES -
>> > > > >>MANDINKA,WOLLOF AND AKU-
>> > > > >>                     CAN YOU NAME ONE PERSON
>> > WHO
>> > > > CANNOT COMMUNICATE IN ANY
>> > > > >>OF
>> > > > >>THOSE THREE      LANGUAGES AT THAT MEETING ?
>> > OR DO
>> > > > YOU HATE TO HEAR ANY
>> > > > >>ONE
>> > > > >>SPEAK IN MANDINKA ? PERHAPS YOU ARE THE
>> > TRIBALIST
>> > > > ITSELF. ALSO BEAR IN
>> > > > >>MIND
>> > > > >>THAT THE UDP LIKE IN THE 96 GENERAL ELECTIONS
>> > WILL
>> > > > SPONSOR CANDIDATES IN
>> > > > >>ALL
>> > > > >>THE CONSTITUENCIES IN THE GAMBIA ; NOT JUST A
>> > FEW.
>> > > > THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF
>> >
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>>
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