List members (silent and vocal), I am appealing to you'll to put a
moratorium on delisting individuals until we come to an agreement or
understanding on how to proceed with normal operations on the L.  Can you
kindly reinstate the individuals affected and we all engage in a more
productive discussion to put this behind us.  I understand this whole mass
management delisting and voluntary delisting by individuals came about
because of a commentary by Dave Manneh, which Mboge seconded, etc.  I do not
think divorcing oneself voluntarily or otherwise from the forum is the
answer to this problem, nor do I think that starting another bantaba is the
answer.  Let us calm down and reason out the issues to an understanding.
Once again, please reinstate the people in question and I also appeal to
those that voluntarily delisted to reconsider their decision and come back
to the table.  Remember, the struggle of our people is bigger than each an
every one of us.  Going our separate ways does nothing but hurt the very
cause that we fought for so long - forging a better Gambia for all.  I
patiently await your cooperation in this request.

Chi Jaama

Joe Sambou


>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: I am Delisting myself in protest
>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:29:15 -0400
>
>Jaiteh, please give us a break with these crocodile tears. Let us grant to
>you that we need a code of conduct (which I doubt); explain to us why you
>‘delisted’ Mboge summarily without ‘delisting’ people that used the
>‘a-word’? Don’t pretend to be better than people that use language you
>would
>not use in your daily affairs or at the Bantaba in Baddibu. Hypocrites do
>NOT have the moral high-ground over straight-shooters, in my book. Your
>actions are indefensible. Tell us all the offensive words. Is the threat of
>violence acceptable to you in your daily affairs? Do you know that it is a
>crime to threaten people with violence like you threatened me the other
>day?
>I warned you before that if you embark on this slippery slope of
>censorship,
>you can NEVER tell where it will land you. You can get 'delisted', among
>other things.
>KB
>
>
>
>>From: "Malanding S. Jaiteh" <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: I am Delisting myself in protest
>>Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 12:05:55 -0400
>>
>>Karamba,
>>It is sad to learn that you are delisting from the L if the Management
>>does
>>not adopt a No-DELISTING policy. I must say I am one of your few admirers
>>on
>>this list, not only for your intellect but for your ability to make your
>>point with respect and dignity. I think you will surely be missed if you
>>deside to leave.
>>
>>Karamba, I repect your point on free speech and your desire that we do not
>>regulate it. Nevertheless, I do not subscribe to the notion of letting
>>people say what they want in any manner they choose including insults and
>>rants. In my few years of existence in this world I know no society or
>>community without rules of conduct. I believe that any gathering must set
>>standard that all must work to achieve or keep. And Gambia-l should be no
>>exception.
>>Form the societies we come from (our families, ethnic groups and Gambia)
>>to
>>the ones we live in there
>>are regulations. I do not know any group of people who call themselves
>>civilized, mature and intellect who when they meet say whatever they wish
>>to
>>whoever they want.
>>
>>So it pains me to see seemingly great Gambian minds (over 500 of them)
>>coming together and just to haul any thing that they can pick in the name
>>of
>>free speech. Where is calling each other names and all adjectives take us
>>as
>>a people discussing our future?
>>
>>As I said, I respect your views but I do not agree. I have explained my
>>action (removing Modou Olly-Mboge) to the management team and when I hear
>>from them I will let the entire list know why I did what I did.
>>
>>Have a good day and I ask you to reconsider your decision.
>>
>>Malanding Jaiteh
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:35 AM
>>Subject: I am Delisting myself in protest
>>
>>
>> > I am voluntarily Delisting myself from Gambia-L to protest the
>>management's
>> > penchant to regulate the speech of people especially those perceived to
>>be
>> > offensive. Unless the list adopts an outright policy of NEVER delisting
>>any
>> > member for ANY reason, I am not interested in participating. It is
>>absolutely
>> > foolish to attempt to regulate speech and I want no part of it. Let
>>people
>> > say what they want in any manner they choose including insults and
>>rants.
>>It
>> > is an acceptable hazard of freedom of speech. We have been through this
>> > never-ending cycle of absurd attempts at behavior control that has and
>>will
>> > never work. Let members be what they choose to be as free people.
>> > Karamba Touray
>> >
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