Morro, NADD did not alienate Ousainou. The answer to your question lies in
the questions I asked you about what Ousainou rejected in the MOU.
Otherwise we would just be going in circles. I am not assuming and I was
specific in waht I said. The bases of NADD was not the Bigger or Better
(Party Led), the bases was a program as described by the MOU. Please favor
me and answer to the questions I posed, so we can exhaust everything.
Chi Jaama
Joe
>From: "MORRO K. CEESAY" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN
>ALONE!!!
>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:54:34 -0800
>
>This confuses the discussion even more. There are a great deal of
>unsubstantiated assertions here. But again, let's apply a little common
>sense. I am making a few assumptions here. A coalition of the opposition
>has a better chance of defeating Jammeh than individual parties. Darboe as
>a leader of coalition has a better chance of defeating Jammeh than as
>leader of UDP. Darboe as leader of the largest opposition party did not
>emerge as leader of a coalition. it is natural to assume he should have.
>Since he did not, one of two explanations has to prevail. Either he has
>lost
>support of his party (UDP), or an undemocratic process was adopted by NADD.
>Either way, we are entitled to know the story. I am less interested in who
>the leader of NADD is than whether or not we are developing truly
>democratic
>processes in The Gambia. Yes Jammeh is horrible. I want him out as much as
>the next guy. I have been wailing against him for 12 years. However, NADD
>has to be a better alternative. One can only be certain of that not just
>by
>the leaders selected but also by the processes used to select them. When
>the devil extends a hand to one resident in hell, do not grab it as a
>staircase to heaven. Why? Because the devil cannot deliver you to heaven.
>NADD has to be the right kind of party. We judge NADD by what it does not
>what it says? Not by what we want it to be, but what it actually is. So
>what did NADD do? If Darboe was alienated as the leader of the largest
>opposition group, how in the world did NADD manage to do that? Darboe is
>the leader of the largest opposition party for a reason - it is the will of
>the people. How did NADD manage to alienate him, if in fact that is what
>has happened?
>
>Morro
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Sambou
>Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 11:09 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN
>ALONE!!!
>
>
>Yes indeed, no question should be side stepped and let us apply that quest
>accross the board. Was Halifa selected as the flagbearer while or before
>Ousainou left NADD and formed an Alliance with NRP? No, Ousainou left
>NADD,
>
>formed an Alliance with NRP, and weeks later NADD named a flagbearer
>(Before
>
>Ousainou left, it was Ousainou, Halifa and OJ that were nominated. Halifa
>declined his nomination, leaving OJ and Ousainou. Then Halifa got
>renominated again when Hamat suggested for the comittee to be selected to
>come up with their recommendations. Before the committee can recommend,
>Ousainou left, leaving Halifa and OJ. Then OJ withdrew, and Waa who
>nominated OJ put his hat in the ring. A committee of the remaining
>executive members, excluding Waa and Halifa was formed and they came up
>with
>
>their flagbearer.) If Ousainou had not left NADD, we would not be talking
>about what we are talking about today. That is my beef with Ousainou. As
>long as he was at the table, he was a player. Why leave when you know you
>can veto anything you do not agree with? Why leave when he knew that all
>he
>
>needed to do was to embrace the MOU and we all would have been talking
>about
>
>a unified NADD, today. While folks focus on the battle for the
>flagbearership, they missed the forest for the tree. The contention was
>really adoption of the MOU. Had Ousainou agreed with the terms of the MOU,
>trust me, you would have heard Gambians howl to the tip of our lungs for
>Ousainou to lead to make life easier for all, but that was not the case.
>Ousainou flatly refused to embrace the MOU and that is a non-starter for
>Gambians that want change for the better, and not a continuation from where
>Jammeh left off. Foget about NADD for the moment, I'm talking about
>Gambians, you and I. Let me ask both of you, why would Ousainou not agree
>for a transition period and the agreements attached, there in? Why would
>Ousainou have a problem with a level playing field, after the transition
>period? Why would Ousainou not agree with a term limit? These are good
>things that all gambians yearn for. Are you in agreement with Ousainou
>against the above, if so, why?
>
>The question asked by Morro would be valid only if Halifa was selected the
>Flagbearer before Ousainou left and formed his Alliance with Hamat.
>However, that is not the case. I'm sure you know the sequence of events
>and
>
>you also know and heard OJ withdrawing his candidacy and Waa throwing his
>hat in the ring, which took weeks before they all agreed. Did Halifa not
>withdrew his name initially and it was OJ and Ousainou that were the
>nominees? Thanks for your question and I hope you will give consideration
>to mine in return.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
> >From: Lang Tunkara <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN
> >ALONE!!!
> >Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:58:34 +0000
> >
> >Morro:
> >Absolutely right you are. But none of the folks who find fault in
> >Ousainou
> >will step up and answer these questions we've all being asking about the
> >nomination process of Mr. Sallah. Why? Because they don't have any
> >explanation. The funny thing about this whole process and sad of course
>is
>
> >how the the nomination started with Omar Jallow but end up with Halifa.
>I
> >asked how come?
> >They will always blame Ousainou, and never in their small minds accept
>the
> >responsibility of creating this whole chaos. It is only time that will
> >vindicate Ousainou/Bah and others. If they, the critics of NRP/UDP, do
>not
>
> >reach out soon to clear this mess up, their failure is more than a
>chance,
> >but an absolute certainty.
> >Lang
> >
> >>From: "MORRO K. CEESAY" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE
> >>MAN
> >>ALONE!!!
> >>Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:13:47 -0800
> >>
> >>This is rubbish. I asked before and I ask again, how did Sallah get
> >>to be the leader of NADD in the first place? It would seem reasonable
> >>anywhere else that the leader of the largest opposition party in a
> >>country should emerge as the leader of a coalition of the opposition.
> >>Why was this not the case with NADD? Perhaps we should insist on
> >>answers to these questions. Shouldn't NADD provide a full explanation?
> >>We shouldn't side step these questions.
> >>
> >>Morro
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of panderry mbai
> >>Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:09 PM
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN
> >>ALONE!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> TEETH BITE:HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE
> >>SUPPORTERS-LEAVE THE MAN ALONE!!!
> >> TEETH BITE: HOLD YOUR HORSE DARBOE SUPPORTERS-LEAVE DARBOE ALONE
> >> UDP militants and self styled supporters, including their party
> >>leader should consider the generous political invitation extended to
> >>Ousainou Numukunda Darboe to lead NADD by Lamin Waa Juwara alias
> >>Mbarodi. Waa’s message was harsh, but in reality this was the best way
> >>to tame this Dubo son. He should be given the benefit of the doubt to
> >>lead the disintegrated coalition. Darboe, should not listen to some
> >>misguided Gambians, whose patriotism is questionable. They are flip
> >>flopping day in day out with the sole aim of misleading the widely
> >>respectable legal luminary.
> >>
> >> DARBOE, PLEASE COME BACK TO NADD AND LEAD
> >> Waa means well for Darboe, even though they are strange bed
> >>fellows.
> >>His
> >>invitation to Darboe should not be blown out of proportion. Lack of
> >>political adviser often lead to major political blunder. Darboe/Bah’s
> >>resignation from NADD is indeed helping incumbent President Jammeh to
> >>further misrule The Gambia. It would be fool hardy for Darboe
>supporters,
> >>NADD or Gamez supporters to think that they can win Jammeh under such a
> >>divided opposition.
> >> The likes of Darboe and Bah have committed suicide by betraying their
> >>colleagues in the struggle. The breakaway reminds us about the UDP
> >>election
> >>boycott, some years back, which Darboe later regretted. He is again
>taking
> >>another political blunder by giving chance to Jammeh to rule our
>country,
> >>as
> >>rightly pointed out by Waa.
> >> Darboe, should think twice and judge his actions. Honestly speaking,
> >>the
> >>actions of Bah and Darboe should warrant the IEC to declare no elections
> >>in
> >>The Gambia. There is no way that these divided opposition will win
>Jammeh.
> >>Going for elections is a waste of time and resources. Our hope for
>regime
> >>change through the democratic mean have been shattered by Bah and
>Darboe.
> >>These people have betrayed Gambians.
> >> Raising funds to help the opposition is a good initiative, but the
> >>question that comes to mind is: Who will risk pumping his savings on
> >>parties
> >>that are not ready to come together? Some of us criticizing Darboe are
>not
> >>his enemy. We wan him to play by the democratic game and stop this
>double
> >>standards politics.
> >> Waa Juwara was very clear, when he said none of the NADD executive
> >>members
> >>were interested to lead NADD. Ousainou should capitalize on this Waa
> >>invitation. No political gimmicks here. Waa said Ousainou is needed
>back.
> >>Halifa will no doubt hand over the rein of power once the Dubo Mansa in
> >>the
> >>making resurfaces at NADD.
> >> PPP BETRAYER DEFECTED WHERE? NO, NO, NO, REPORTER AKALEKE
> >> As far as we are concerned the PPP, is the by product of the UDP. How
> >>can
> >>a son claim fathering his parent? Does this make sense to any sober
>minded
> >>person? Come on dude……The PPP created the UDP, there is no question
>about
> >>that. This news on the so called defection would sound funny to
>Ousainou.
> >>We
> >>remember when the PPP disgraced officials teamed up to form what is
>called
> >>today the UDP.
> >> At the time they were banned from participating into politics. All
>they
> >>could have done was to run the show through behind the scene moves. Most
> >>of
> >>the UDP executive members worked with the PPP government and benefited
> >>from
> >>Sir Dawda’s school of political thought. From the Taals, the Mannehs,
>the
> >>list goes on and on were part of the PPP. The PPP will never betray the
> >>UDP,
> >>a party they created. OJ is part of NADD, but his mind is on the UDP.
>This
> >>is the reality folks. How can a father hate his son? Does this make
>sense?
> >> Waa knew very well that in the absence of Ousainou, nothing will
>work.
> >>Ousainou was created by the PPP mafia and is no doubt enjoying some
>amount
> >>of support across the country. This does necessarily means that he can
>win
> >>an election under the current political set up. He stood better chances
>of
> >>winning if allowed by NADD to lead as suggested by his arch political
> >>rival.
> >>While the accusations and counter accusations are on the historians are
> >>documenting the political scene. Le our actions be guided for the common
> >>good.
> >> No person can stand on its own. The UDP should always remember that
> >>the
> >>PPP created their party and should avoid being over carried by political
> >>novice, whose knowledge on our political trend is limited to some
>extent.
> >>Darboe is a good person and we have no doubt in our mind that he want to
> >>lead that impoverished country with humility.
> >> In doing so, he should put national interest ahead of personal
> >>interest.
> >>NADD says, he is needed back, let him go before it is too late. Ousainou
> >>“LAIMANSANA YAA SEETALAI” meaning the time has come for Ousainou to be a
> >>leader. He has NRP/UDP/PPP, and now NADD also are on the verge of
>handing
> >>over the mantle of power to him. Chey!!! Darboe Mansaring.
> >>IllADUWALIJABITA!!!
> >> We suggest that if Darboe refuses to accept Waa’s invitation, let
>NADD
> >>leader Halifa Sallah, set the ball rolling by formally handing the
> >>leadership to him. This is no jokes. The opposition should give him the
> >>benefit of the doubt. Let sleeping dogs lie. Lawyer Darboe “yai Bankota”
> >>This is the reality. He is a leader in the making and NADD should help
>him
> >>to realize his leadership dream.
> >>
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