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Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:00:10 +0100
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Kebba,
These people think they can come here and fool us on Islam, as they are
presently fooling the Gambian public. If they are true believers, why have they
killed innocent people? Why are they going round peddling lies against people ?
Why are the stealing the coffers of country ? Why are they still intimidating,
maimimg and still intending to kill more people who don`t support them? Believe
me Kebba, i smelt some coffee in Essa "school fees" Sey`s preachings. They
should thank God that Yaya Jammeh`s gun has benefited them to call themselves
Ambassadors or whatever. Coming here to preach us in French will never frighten
us, because we have people in this forum who can translate his preachings into
five / six different languages. My message to Essa "school fees" Sey is
"La connaissance de la religion de L`lslam se compose de trois degrès:
1. AL-ISLAM, qui signifie la soumission complète à Allah.
2. AL-IMANE, qui signifie la foi absolute en ALLAH.
3.AL-IHSANE ( la charitè ou l`amèlioration de soi ). "
If Essa believes in what he is preaching here, then let us see him on the "
JAAKAR LOH " face to face confrontation with the devil of Islam.

Elhajj.


Dampha Kebba skrev:

> It is just hilarious how all of a sudden the vermin have found God. I guess
> in their deviant minds it was God’s will that our defenseless children be
> slaughtered and it was also God’s will that those hateful terrorists in New
> York murder over 4000 innocent civilians. Oh God help us from such TWISTED
> interpretation of the Koran. God help us from morons and drunkards leaving
> bars and holding the Koran and giving erroneous interpretation of Your Holy
> Book. Amen.
>
> Frankly, I thought Gassama and Essa Sey were morons, but I did NOT think
> that they will go to this extent whereby they will try in broad daylight to
> bamboozle God, The Almighty. You guys think that when you are partaking in
> your despicable deeds disobeying God, The Almighty is sleeping or taking a
> vacation? Did God also ‘ordain’ that Hitler comes and slaughter Jews? You
> people MUST be out of your minds. I am very serious when I say that if
> nothing else, please reread the Koran and Hadith and try and educate
> yourself. You are way off.
>
> Before I move to Gassama’s irrational rattling about his ‘wishes’ for Gambia
> after the October Election, let me just point out one thing to Essa Sey. In
> his quest to sound intelligent and make a point, the mental midget ended up
> implicating his boss and showing the whole world that Yaya is blatantly
> breaking our laws by ‘owning’ a plane. Essa Sey just told us that Yaya is
> indeed the owner of Millennium Airlines. After all, the UN Sanctions
> Committee got the wrong person. When they banned Baabaa Jobe (qua Director
> of Millennium Airlines), they should have banned Yaya. That aside, our
> Constitution (as if Yaya respects the document) specifically prohibits Yaya
> from involving in ‘business’ other than farming. Now Essa Sey is telling us
> that Yaya is in the ‘business’ of hiring and firing people working for
> Millennium Airlines. You morons do NOT cease to amaze me.
>
> Now to tweedle-dee. Gassama, Hitler won elections in Germany. The man is
> still a Devil. Stealing elections by intimidating the masses does NOT make
> Yaya a ‘good’ person with few faults (shortcomings) that some of us should
> tolerate. In my book, the vermin forfeited his rights when he ordered the
> massacre of our children. That is what you guys should also try and get into
> your thick skulls. You keep trying to make us ignore the man’s faults. We
> are telling you that those faults are so heinous that we CANNOT tolerate
> them. I hope you see the point now.
>
> You can delude yourself and think that the people that oppose Yaya in this
> forum are in the minority. Not just this forum, but let me inform you that
> the overwhelming majority of Gambians oppose Yaya. The moron spent millions
> of dalasis during the last election. At the end of the day, he could only
> ‘win’ because he ferried Casamance Jolas into the country to vote for him.
> He also had vermin like you scaring people telling them that if Yaya loses
> there will be turmoil in the country. The end result? Some innocent Gambians
> put ‘security’ over everything else and succumbed to intimidation. I tell
> the people that they are just postponing their ordeal.
>
> The proverbial ink was hardly dry when Yaya vindicated my point that people
> were just postponing their ordeal.  People that thought giving Yaya a
> ‘victory’ will bring peace to the country are sadly mistaken. Were those
> people not rounded up and jailed and their families and compounds attacked
> by APRC thugs? What kind of ‘open mind’ do you suggest we look at the
> illegal detention of people like Muhammad Sillah, George Christensen and
> Baboucarr Gaye, to name a few? How do you suggest we look at the closure of
> a Radio Station on the basis of some spurious civil (as opposed to criminal)
> claims?
>
> You must be out of your mind to think that people will take seriously Essa
> Sey’s silly gimmicks trying to serve as a person interested in dialog to
> bring sanity in our country. Of course we know that you, Essa Sey, Tombong,
> Fatoumatta Jahumpa and all the APRC clowns on G_L are all a bunch of
> nonentities. You CANNOT and have no desire of speaking truth to Yaya that
> will jeopardize your positions. I told people long time ago that talking to
> you people is pointless. Yaya has to be DEFEATED (NOT negotiated with). We
> know that you are all impotent in front of Yaya when he wants to do his
> diabolical deeds. You people CANNOT even help yourselves. Why should we
> expect you to help us when you do NOT even want to recognize the evil
> inherent in the massacre of our children? I understand that Yaya once called
> one Mr. Ceesay to his (Yaya’s) office. Yaya showed Mr. Ceesay a list of 38
> people and told Ceesay that he (Ceesay) was a liar. Apparently, Yaya was
> miffed because Ceesay fed him wrong information and made him fire 38 civil
> servants unjustifiably (what’s new about that?). For feeding Yaya false
> information leading to the demise of those servants, Ceesay was also fired.
> Guess who is the Mrs. of this Ceesay character. Now, tell me if I should
> trust Mrs. Ceesay that CANNOT fight for her husband to fight for defenseless
> Gambian children.
>
> Gassama, I wonder what gave you the idea that you cannot make reference to
> the Jawara days. Of course you can talk about that if you want. Just don’t
> LIE. Because if you do, you will hear from me. If you read what you wrote in
> your piece about the Jawara era, you will realize why you are confused about
> writing about the Jawara era. How on earth can you say that the Jawara
> government “[subjugated] a whole nation through a deliberate policy of
> keeping them [absolutely] ignorant”? Emphasis mine. I wonder where you,
> Yaya, Essa Sey, Tombong, the entire Jahumpa family, all got your education
> from.
>
> Soon you will begin to hallucinate that Yaya brought us Gamtel. In your own
> twisted world, Yaya developed the container terminals at the Ports. Yaya was
> the one that built Yundum airport from scratch. Yaya was the one that built
> the roads in Banjul. Yaya started the Banjul Sewage project. You people are
> simply pathetic. Gassama, some of us were in Banjul right before the ‘coup’.
> We are NOT ‘Doctors’ (no disrespect meant here) that left Gambia 20 years
> ago and do NOT know what Yaya put there and what he found there and built
> on. This GRTS you are bragging about is a classic example of how you mental
> midgets operate. The Yaya propaganda outfit (GRTS) almost bankrupted one of
> the most productive companies in the country (Gamtel). A company we got
> thanks to the Jawara government. How did you morons try to rectify the
> situation? You resolved to bankrupt more companies just to have Yaya to come
> on TV and insult our parents and threaten Gambians with death. You proposed
> to have other ‘Parastatals’ together with Gamtel to continue financing the
> losing proposition (GRTS).
>
> The University. ‘Meme chose’. Just amalgamated institutions Jawara put there
> and called it Yaya’s invention. Feel free to discuss the past. Just be
> prepared to back up your rhetoric with facts.
>
> If anybody, I think you are the people that CANNOT come to terms with the
> fact that Jawara is no longer in power. You are the ones always LYING about
> the man in order to make Yaya look good. Left to me alone, we would only
> talk about Yaya since he is the one in power now and is the one that can
> order the massacre of defenseless children and loot our coffers. Let us
> focus on Yaya’s record, since you want to move from the so-called first
> republic.
>
> I am glad that your hopes and aspirations were dashed in the aftermath of
> the elections. Your hopes of having a moron enslave our people will NOT
> materialize. We will continue to RESIST Yaya and cohorts like you. We REFUSE
> to suffer from ALES. We know we deserve better than child murderers and
> thieves. We will fight until we get a leader that will develop the country
> AND will NOT enslave our people and loot our meager resources. We will see
> to an end to this sick mediocrity in Banjul.
> KB
>
> >From: Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Yero Mama/The day of reckoning or recognising?
> >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:19:44 +0000
> >
> >Yero Mama,
> >
> >It is very unfortunate that there are some seemingly intelligent people who
> >doggedly want us to believe that they and they alone have opinions of what
> >right and wrong are; and with that mindset they will resort to all sorts of
> >abuse and vulgarity in an attempt to impose those opinions on all others
> >with differing views. While some of us will not deny that Jammeh, like all
> >humans, is not infallible and has faults, they hold on to the view that
> >Jammeh is the "devil reincarnate". To them, the 53% of mature Gambians who
> >live in this hell of a place that they want the whole world to believe,
> >just
> >don't know what the hell they want. Are these people for real? I simply
> >cannot understand why a minority of  shysters on this forum seem to want
> >everyone to believe that they and they alone know what is best for the
> >country. He may represent some people's worst nightmares but not mine.
> >
> >When you suggest that we look into things with an open mind and see how
> >best
> >to bridge the gap between us through a better understanding of each other's
> >points of view, they dogged refuse and writing you off as some sycophant
> >who
> >has no human genes or sense in him. Some are only interested in wallowing
> >in
> >Jammeh's shortcomings refuse to allow any objective discourse of any othe
> >aspect of him knowing full well that jammeh's balance score card is not
> >that
> >difficult to rationalise or defend. When you suggest referring our recent
> >past in order to better understand certain issues they will have none of
> >it.
> >When you cannot make any reference to the Jawara days unless the issue is
> >how The Gambia was "recognised" the world over for being a bastion of
> >"peace, tranquility and human rights" (whatever that means). What human
> >rights are they talking about when we were denied any significant form of
> >development? What human rights is there when you subjugate a whole nation
> >through a deliberate policy of keeping them aboslutely ignorant? Even the
> >national radio to inform us of government policies they will not maintain
> >it. We all remember the days when radio Gambia will be off the air for
> >hours
> >simply because a few five Dalasi fuses were not available. But no; we
> >cannot
> >talk about the past. If they don't want to discuss the PPP record honestly
> >and compare it with what prevails now in its entirity, how on earth can
> >anyone come an informed conclusion about Jammeh or his government? Fact of
> >the matter is that some just hate the guy and no matter what, they will
> >never see anything good in whatever he does. No wonder with that mindset
> >some cannot still come to terms with the fact that the first republic is
> >truely dead. Wistfully looking back to those days when nobody was
> >accountable for anything done in the name of the people will all be in
> >vain.
> >But try to point that out and you are a sycophant praise singing to keep a
> >job. How ridiculous can one be to come such a simple conclusion is beyond
> >me.
> >
> >I had very high hopes for the country when Jammeh was declared the winner
> >of
> >the recently concluded elections and the leader of main opposition party,
> >Ousainou Darbo called him to concede. Then, I had thought that the
> >relationship between the ruling party and the UDP will, from then on, be
> >based on mutual respect and fruitful engagement. How quickly those hopes
> >evaporated is mind boggling. Because the legitimacy of Jammeh's first
> >government was not fully accepted by some in the opposition and that did
> >not
> >go down well with the APRC, I had assumed that this time round a new era
> >had
> >dawned. I had assumed that the constant bickering and clashes between the
> >two parties would soon come to an end and some degree of sanity restored.
> >But no. No sooner did we heave a sigh of relieve that the tension in our
> >country would soon be replaced by a unity of purpose to create a better
> >Gambia, the leadership of the main opposition UDP reneged on their earlier
> >reconciliatory message of respecting the views of the electorate. It is
> >very
> >sad when you consider the implication this has for peace and peaceful
> >co-existence especially between the militant supporters of the two parties.
> >As far as I am concerned everything seems to be back to square one. The
> >scene now seems to be set for more clashes betwen supporters of the two
> >parties, more arrests and detensions and more misery for all. And all these
> >because some people cannot and will not accept the fact that, for now, God
> >has destined Yahya to lead us. But as they say, an obstinate man does not
> >hold opinions, but opinions hold him! Very unfortunate if you ask me.
> >
> >Have a good day, Gassa.
> >
> >>From: YERO MAMA <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: Mohinder Bains/The day of reckoning or recognising?
> >>Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:36:52 +0000
> >>
> >
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