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Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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How dare you posture!  Did you not do the same criminal activity that you 
call yourself being against?  What source are you talking about?  Malik 
stated he did not forward anything to you, so where the hell did you get it 
from, except invading the same e-mail address you provided him?  I just 
brought your criminal activity up because when you did it, only a handful 
call you out on it, and a name that comes to mind is Yus.  All knows that 
the last person I will bat for is Fast Eddy and will call for his head on 
this one, but you are in that same category for you committed the same 
crime.  Sit there and think I have an axe to grind against you, like you are 
something I will worry about.  No, I am addressing both your criminal 
activities and will call your name any day and you know my address if you 
want to do something about it, or better yet, do something when I come to 
Atlanta in a couple of weeks.  You know I hold no prisoners!  What ever you 
say here, just be prepared to back it up some day.  See you soon!

Chi Jaama

Joe


>From: <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>CC: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:40:14 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Joe,
>  It's no secret that you have an axe to grind and will gloat at the
>slightest opportunity to slander my name just like you did to those
>innocent and hardworking Gambians in that despicable e-mail. Now then,
>what proof do you have that I "illegally accessed a private
>correspondence" you had? None whatsoever. And I'm not going to bury my
>source either. I'm not a snitch. Joe, the sooner you quit lying about me
>and grow up the better. George Sarr is on some grown man shit! . Let his
>nuts go, faggot. Goddame!
>
>"I was a thorn in his flesh"
>Don't flatter yourself, faggot. Eat friggin' a dick! (lekal chu chu! mofo)
>
>
>
>
> > Thank you Malanding and Laye.  I am glad that this criminal behavior is
> > addressed.  As you all know, I was a victim at the Gambia Post, when
> > George  illegally accessed a private correspondence I had with malik
> > (from the  e-mail address he provided Malik) just because I was a thorn
> > in his flesh.   Most of the readership turned the other way and some
> > were even happy that it  happened to Joe.  The good thing was that what
> > I said in that mail was no  secret for I said it to him in public.  My
> > thoughts at the time was, if I  was hiding my ID and made comments
> > regarding the butcher, this fellow would  not have hesitated to offer me
> > for a lynching.  Thus, we should never be too  tired to address criminal
> > behavior against any, by any, for it is also an  assault on our
> > collective.
> >
> > Chi Jaama
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >>From: Radio Free Gambia <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
> >>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:19:25 -0500
> >>
> >>Thanks for the prompt action. I hope the list management comes to a
> >> conclusion that will help maintain and enhance the sense of privacy and
> >> security on this list.
> >>
> >>-BambaLaye
> >>
> >>On Wed, June 7, 2006 11:21 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
> >> > BambaLaye,
> >> > I understand concern that the right to scream fire must stop outside
> >> the theater hall.  The rest of the management must be offline now
> >> but given the urgent  need to protect the innocence, I have decided
> >> to temporarily suspend Mr Jallow's right to post until management
> >> have time to discuss the matter.  Have a good night.
> >> >
> >> > Malanding
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Radio Free Gambia wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Thanks Malanding for your prompt response:
> >> >>
> >> >>"Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and
> >> not Pa's request to suspend the suspect account  pending
> >> verification."
> >> >>
> >> >>I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to
> >> protect
> >>Pa
> >> >>Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond
> >> reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or
> >> (2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit
> >>authority
> >> >>to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list.
> >> >>
> >> >>Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and
> >> >>protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we
> >> speak. Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint
> >> to protect
> >> >> his
> >> >>privacy?
> >> >>
> >> >>There appears to be two different thresholds set for management
> >> action
> >>on
> >> >>the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the
> >> integrity of this respected list.
> >> >>
> >> >>Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch my
> >>
> >>head
> >> >>too. Have a great night.
> >> >>
> >> >>-BambaLaye
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Sister Jabou and BambaLaye,
> >> >>>While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal
> >> mail sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I  still believe that it
> >> would be unprecedented for  management to delist Ebou Jallow
> >> without evidence tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa
> >> Nderry's privacy. As far
> >>as
> >> >>>I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to  report his address being spoofed to
> >> G-l management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails
> >> without conscent.
> >> >>>Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and
> >> not Pa's request to suspend the suspect account  pending
> >> verification. Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the
> >> managers that Pa contacted them about the suspended account.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine
> >> it not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some
> >> of
> >>whom
> >> >>>he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be
> >> fair to state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be
> >> resubscribed today, I hope he would in the future be unambiguous
> >> about the status of Ebou's postings, but until the G-l management
> >> cannot act.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Malanding
> >> >>>
> >> >>>[log in to unmask] wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>Laye,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to
> >> >>>> de-list
> >> >>>>Ebou Jallow  because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site
> >> was illegally
> >> >>>>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the
> >> >>>> hackers
> >> >>>>( and
> >> >>>>we all saw that evidence which the management said  was the reason
> >>
> >>they
> >> >>>>decided
> >> >>>>to de-list his email address for the time  being) and Ebou
> >> Jallow's posting
> >> >>>>of emails he clearly labels as  intercepted private communication
> >> to
> >>Pa
> >> >>>>Nderry
> >> >>>>was what led me to also  suggest that Ebou Jallow should be
> >> de-listed
> >> >>>> but
> >> >>>>Malanding offered an  explanation that still has me scratching my
> >>head.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Jabou Joh
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> >> [log in to unmask] writes:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>List  Managers:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry
> >> Mbai's
> >> >>>> claim
> >> >>>>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou  Jallow
> >> ([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to
> >>demonstrate
> >> >>>>to
> >> >>>>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai  to
> >> >>>> forward
> >> >>>>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any  satisfactory
> >> demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr.
> >> Jallow,
> >>he
> >> >>>>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of
> >> the
> >> >>>> list.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim  of
> >>illegal
> >> >>>>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted -
> >> because
> >> >>>> he
> >> >>>>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies
> >> logic
> >> >>>> (in
> >> >>>>my
> >> >>>>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the  list
> >> with
> >> >>>> no
> >> >>>>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my
> >> >>>> knowledge
> >> >>>>so far.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>There has been precedent to such behavior on the  list and the
> >> outcome was
> >> >>>>swift and clear to all.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>My apolgies if this  issue is being dealt with under the  shadows.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>-BambaLaye
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm,  Ebou Jallow said:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>*From*: [log in to unmask]
> >> >>>>>*Sent*:  Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM
> >> >>>>>*To*: [log in to unmask]
> >> >>>>>*Subject*:  Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation  please
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Pa Nderry,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>I am a visitor to your site.  Congrats for setting up the online
> >> news service. I enjoy alot going  through it .However what is
> >> disturbing
> >>to
> >> >>>>>me
> >> >>>>>is
> >> >>>>>that people's  private lives are constantly dragged into what
> >> seems
> >>to
> >> >>>>>have
> >> >>>>>no links  with issues that are relevant to national development.
> >> My first
> >> >>>>>example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the
> >> >>>>> second
> >> >>>>> is
> >> >>>>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him
> >> but
> >>I
> >> >>>>>think
> >> >>>>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is  living
> >> with, or who
> >> >>>>>he
> >> >>>>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It  sounds so ridiculous to me.
> >> It makes
> >> >>>>>me
> >> >>>>>wonder do we have some  online saints? Really not. Talking about
> >> corruption,
> >> >>>>>politics  and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but
> >>trying
> >> >>>>>to
> >> >>>>>smear  others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever
> >> your source
> >> >>>>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one
> >> should have
> >> >>>>>the
> >> >>>>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping  silent entrenches the
> >> problem.
> >> >>>>>If
> >> >>>>>it is true, I know it is not  only the said ambassador who is
> >> guilty
> >> >>>>> of
> >> >>>>>sexual harassment in the  Gambia, not only in government, it is
> >> every where
> >> >>>>>in our schools, in  the private offices, in our houses, in the
> >> media.
> >> >>>>> I
> >> >>>>>am
> >> >>>>>presently  working on a book to be published in some months ahead
> >> and one
> >> >>>>>of
> >> >>>>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am not
> >> trying
> >> >>>>>to
> >> >>>>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government  officer but I am
> >> writing
> >> >>>>>an
> >> >>>>>independent opinion and certainly  as a journalist as well. I
> >> know
> >>his
> >> >>>>>name
> >> >>>>>casually like the name of any  other person of high portfolio in
> >> government.
> >> >>>>>Thats all but I  feel it is not right to denigrate him on no
> >> grounds,
> >> >>>>> I
> >> >>>>>think
> >> >>>>>it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his
> >> family or alone.
> >> >>>>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside  the
> >> country.
> >> >>>>>If
> >> >>>>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern  us as a nation, why
> >>
> >>not,
> >> >>>>>belch
> >> >>>>>it out, sure we all need to  know, but otherwise, things like who
> >> >>>>> drinks
> >> >>>>>beer
> >> >>>>>or has a girl  friend in the corner is not substantiate enough to
> >> use valuable time  on our newspapers that have such a lofty
> >> mission. We
> >> >>>>> have
> >> >>>>>more
> >> >>>>>pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning
> >> that Katy
> >> >>>>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know her
> >>
> >>but
> >> >>>>> I
> >> >>>>>feel
> >> >>>>>it is equally ridiculous to say that.
> >> >>>>>Most  times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading
> >> >>>>> reports
> >> >>>>>or
> >> >>>>>some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper
> >> >>>>> report
> >> >>>>> is
> >> >>>>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor a
> >> summary
> >> >>>>>of
> >> >>>>>a boigraphical tale.
> >> >>>>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I  am saying keep up the good work and
> >> congrats
> >> >>>>> for
> >> >>>>>establishing the  newspaper online. But focus on better issues,
> >> we
> >> >>>>> have
> >> >>>>>loads
> >> >>>>>of  bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Mariama Khan
> >> >>>>>Postgraduate student
> >> >>>>>Turin, italy
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>autho- Futa Toro
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting  lips
> >> >>>>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Mariama  Khan
> >> >>>>>
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