Dear saiks
Thanks for your reply. Your points are noted.
Basil
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:20:56 PST saiks samateh
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> Dear B.M.
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> I wanted to wait for Ebrimas second part before responding to yours but since
> there is not much to say in responding to yours I decided to do it now .By the
> way it was great to know that you belong to the new generation,I only hope
> that there are many "90s husband" out there,or do we have any choice ?
> You responded to my posting by insisting that ;
> "what i said was that 97% of all children under 12 months had access to
> maternal and child health(MCH) care. This is the result of
> a well functioning and funded program that is easy to
> monitor and is well targeted up and down the
> country ..."
> Again if 97% of these children did have accsee to maternal and child health
> care and yet still did not undergo any immunization programme then the quality
> of such a programme needs to be upgraded ,because part of the main objective
> of child health care is to, among other things, provide children with such
> services.If immunization is not part of this well functioning and funded
> programme then something is wrong somewhere.And secondly it will be great to
> know who was funding this programme.As said in my first posting that even
> during the PPP era these developments were there and that they were also
> claiming it to be their achievement.Yes B.M.I hold on to the fact that the
> size of our country and population is of great advantage especially when it
> comes to providing health and social services,I am not sure why you are
> dismissing this fact and yet still insist that statistics are important in
> drawing development strategies which I have no problem in agreeing with you.
> What I am saying,like in your statistic on the number of children who are now
> attending primary school, whiles these figures could even be true,you cant
> depend on them entirely,because it could happen that half of these children do
> not complete their primary education or do not go beyond this level simple
> because their parents are not able to provide them with the funding.And even
> with that,either you or someone else mention here that the teacher /students
> ration is unsatisfactory,how do we expect a quality education from such a
> situation ?I other words,these statistics do not tell among other things the
> quality of the education,this is what one is saying when I insisted that some
> of these statistics do not correspond with the realities on the ground.I must
> insist here again that I have never disputed the fact that statistics are not
> important.
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> For Freedom
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> Saiks
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> > Even if Jones figures are correct that 97 % of Gambian
> children under the age > of 12 have undergone the
> immunization program,which is very doubting,might
> > be based on the fact that our estimated population is
> just 1.5 million,many > times less than that of Lagos.If we
> even based our arguments on these figures > it will mean
> that almost every Gambian child under the age of 12 have
> been > in contact with the health service in the
> country,which is very doubting. > >
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> Hi Saiks,
> Just a point of observation on the above quotation
> attributed to me. I never said that 97% of all children
> under 12 year have adequate immunization. What i said was
> that 97% of all children under 12 months had access to
> maternal and child health(MCH) care. This is the result of
> a well functioning and funded program that is easy to
> monitor and is well targeted up and down the
> country. Nothing to do with Nigeria or size.
>
> Yes there are lies, damn lies and statistics, but
> statistics is just a guide to facilitate planning. In the
> case of Gambia, what needs to be implemented is adequate
> planning that is targeted to reduce poverty as sister ndey
> mentioned. Let me take your example of Badibu Mandory or
> Kerr Mama. Lets assume that Gambia family planning
> association in collaboration with the DOH wants to reduce
> the infant and child mortality rates in this area. Don't
> you think that it is useful to know the target population
> of all children under 5 in this area, resources provided
> and a system of monitoring their progress instituted to
> establish their survival rates. The number of babies born
> can be established and monitored. That's how statistics
> help in planning economy wide.
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> As i said, the challenge is development and without
> planning there can be no development. So statistics are
> just a guide in identifying your target population.
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> About 9 years back, i used to take my son to clinic every
> saturday at leman street as my wife did the cooking for the
> week (I am a 90s man). In Gambia on the birth of a child,
> you are issued with a clinic card and in villages there are
> trained traditional birth attendants that are taught what
> to do and fill in forms to deliver to the community health
> nurse ect. With the clinic cards, it is easy to monitor the
> level of vaccination in Gambia. Even countries that are not
> in political turmoil in Africa are studying our success in
> this area. So let us promote the good and see how it can be
> enhanced.
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> You said that economic statistics do not correspond to the
> realities of the average Gambia. I think that is precisely
> what Ebrima showed in his article. When you make a
> statement like that, it is a normative statement based on
> your value judgment. Ebrima is making a positive statement
> backed with facts and figures. He is proving his point with
> concrete evidence to establish his assertion. This is what
> statistics give you that you otherwise do not have.
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> For certain areas such as unemployment we know that it
> exists but we do not know the actual level. In Gambia the
> problem is more of underemployment that unemployment -i.e
> there is the tendency for more people to engage in
> productive employment during the rainy season. I
> deliberately avoided talking about inflation and other
> economic statistics and instead concentrated on health and
> education. If anything Ebrima has shown as you said in your
> last statement the extent of personal sacrifices needed
> for nation building.
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