Oh Dear,
Thanks Y Jallow for the solidarity message over the death threat. Those people are idle minds.
My Ddear Uncle Suntou, you must understand that I am not an internet addict. I do not stay on the internet rough the clock and I have prioritized my email account in such a way that I do not always read most of my mails. I have a filter. Some emails I just ignore until I get serious reminders before opening them and others are just deleted unread. I do not want to be a slave of the Information and Communications Technologies (ICT) and I have trained myself in any way that I can survive without them.
I have more pressing commitments that idling online.
With the Gambia-L, you have to understand that I am a NEW COMER. I have to adjust to the system here. I am grateful for the baptism of fire but I have to be careful not to violate the terms and conditions.
Beside, my kind cousin Haruna Darboe sponsored me to the G-L and I would not like to misuse his trust.
Furthermore, my status binds me to responsibility and no one should expect me to demean myself by responding to every sneeze.
My Dear Uncle Suntou, it is just unfortunate that you are linking Maafanta.com to a “safe cabin.” You will agree with me that Maafanta.com is an OPEN PLATFORM that, unlike the CLOSED Gambia-L, gives internet users across the globe the easier chance to challenge and scrutinize me more aggressively.
The qualities are different and if at all I wanted to avoid greater razor-sharp scrutiny I would have limited myself to the closed list-serves. So your insinuations do not work here.
Gracing the Gambia-L is not a do or die matter for me. I can respectfully request my un-subscription within seconds and it will not affect me.
I am mot going to abuse the patience of Maafanta.com Editor by responding to every jerk. The debate on Mandinko humiliation under President Jammeh has just started and it makes sense for me to give other people ample time and space to express their opinions before I come up with a decent final rejoinder. No one expects me to answer every question and I will only limit myself to the ones that makes sense to most people.
Tell your warrior Koroma of Gambia Post (as I am not a member of Gambia Post) that I am not dogging the questions of Magistrate LJ Darboe and Mr. Joe Sambou. But the answer is this: I AM NOT EXPECTING OR ASKING THE MANDINKOS TO BEAR THE BURDEN OF LIBERATING THE GAMBIA FROM TYRANNY.
Edward Francis Small, the non-Muslim Aku man who set the ball of Gambian independence rolling was not a Mandinko. But it was the Mandinkos who were among the other larger groups to enjoy the benefits of post-independent Gambia. EF Small's Aku group lost out.
THE MANDINKOS HAVE THE NUMBERS, STUPID! Even though Yahya Jammeh's is humiliating the Mandinkos, it is a fact that the Mandinkos by virtue of their numbers are still occupying important positions in Jammeh's Government or the Civil Service.
Even if another non-Mandinko person frees the Gambia from Yahya Jammeh, the Mandinkos will benefit from a post-Jammeh Gambia. It is the size of the Mandinkos that is giving Yahya Jammeh sleepless nights.
I am a bit disappointed that some of the Mandinkos elites are yet to see that their size gives them a unique position in our multi-ethnic Gambia and this position means responsibility. It is not their fault that they became the majority but reminding them of this fact should not be seen as blasphemy.
Joe Sambou, your claim that Sarahulehs could be gassing diamond when the Mandinkos would be fighting is a result of ignorance. When the Fulas wanted to end the Kaabu tyranny, they invited us Sarahulehs and we joined them. If we can die together with the Fulas what will stop us from dying together with the Mandinkos and other ethnic groups? The Mandinkos, Bambaras, Sarahulehs and their sub-groups as part of what linguists called the MANDING FAMILY OF LANGUAGES.
So Mandinkos are my family. I am disturbed by President Jammeh's humiliation of Mandinkos for the simple reason that I see them (Mandinkos) as part of my family that is being humiliated.
Anyway I will elaborate on it on Maafanta.com once my time permits. From now till the first week of October and ever after that I will be EXTREMLY busy. The only thing I might do is to proof-read the daft articles I have on polygamy and Wolof-Mandinkos sexualities and send them in between to the Maafanta.com Editor.
This week, I will be serving as a resource person for the official opening of an exhibition on the forgotten African World War Two Veterans (runs through September 16, 2010 to January 16, 2011).
The week after I will be on a TV round on the perceptions of Africans in the West organized by the WDR (West German Broadcasting) corporation (on September 20,2010).
Parallel to that I will be coordinating our bi-annual African Film Festival in Germany (September 19 to October 4, 2010).
After that there are still other commitments till the end of the year that will gulp my attention.
I might come back to the Mandinko debate in between or even after the Gambian election in 2011 or whenever my schedule permits it. If people do not have patience to wait, it is not my business. People are free to keep throwing arrows at me in between and I will not disgrace my status by responding to every idle talk.
On a final note, my Dear Uncle OSAMA BIN SUNTOU, THE BOLONBA OF TALIBANISTAN, we just have to agree to disagree in peace. You are a fundamentalist and I am anti-Taliban liberal. Even if the sky is painted red, we might not change our positions.
You are free to worship Allah and I am free to worship my African Deities. I find our African polytheism democratic in that one has the freedom to choose and replace his/her Gods. Monotheism is like dictatorship and one has spend his/her life begging only one jealous God.
As a liberal, I am allergic to dictatorship be is worldly (political) or celestial (theological).
On a lighter note, kindly extend my Koriteh greetings to my beautiful cousins. I might send cola nuts and one of my other Uncles from Spain to ask for the hand of one of them in marriage. Don't tell me you will not in-law a nephew who proudly follows his progressive pre- Islamic African roots? You laugh!
May the African Ancestors continues to guide and protect us!
Prince B.A. Sankanu
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> Datum: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 20:30:38 -0400
> Von: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> An: [log in to unmask]
> Betreff: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin Sankanu to Ellen.
>
> Sometimes you have to ignore this JDAM. He comes outta left field when you
> least expect it. I encourage my royal cousin Sankanu to ignore this JDAM.
> Remmember Suntou, No salt and pepper.
>
> Haruna.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 11, 2010 7:59 pm
> Subject: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin Sankanu
> to Ellen.
>
>
> Ya Cousin need to answer LJ properly. We need him here. I don't know of
> any royalty gracing the good old Gambia L. This is why, Sankanu needs a
> reality check right here. His fertile mind will grow to be stronger not barren
> like many folks who after graduating, pack all the books, the thinking and
> start relaxing till death.
> Here, for the good or worst is a real world. There is no bobble, no
> protection like the papers, no hiding place. This is why, the other Prince want
> the new prince to hide and throw jabs.
> I will be terribly disappointed if Prince Sankanu avoids LJ's responses.
> Sankanu's uncle is a brave one, 'hail Harunasilo'. Will the genius please
> stand!
> Suntou
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Y'all need to lay off my royal cousin Sankanu. Let him speak where and
> when he wants to. Meanwhile attend to life's significant matters.
>
>
> Haruna.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 11, 2010 4:06 am
> Subject: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin Sankanu
> to Ellen.
>
>
>
>
>
> The prince is advise to stay from Gambia-L, I wonder why? Is it because
> the of the fear of real time, face to face exchanges? I await Sankanu's
> response to LJ, Koroma(G-Post) and others right here. If Sankanu is sincere with
> his views, he should deal with them not in a comfortable cabin alone but
> where his views will be thoroughly scrutinised. For the better or worst you
> will get your mind's worth
>
> Halake speaks:
>
> Sankanu A Genius Indeed
> London Letter: Re – Troublesome Genius Prince Sankanu!
>
> Editor,
>
> It gives me great pleasure to, for once, agree with my fellow Fulaman MK
> Jallow’s statement that Sankanu is “a genius”.
> Thoroughly disagreeable to many I am sure, and sometimes deliberately
> mischievious, but undoubtedly “a genius”. One
> rarely comes across an intellect to equal Sankanu, and I can, without
> exaggeration say that I notice traces of Steve Biko
> (I Write What I think), Ngugi wa Thingo’o (Homecoming) The Black
> Panthers (Revolutionary Suicide, Soul on Ice).
> I will not equate him to the great German thinker Nietzsche (because
> Nietzsche ultimately went mad).
>
> Weightier matters take precedent, but I hope to respond fully to
> Sankanu’s brilliant Fanonist Tour d’Force later.
> In the meantime, keep up the enlightenment, Great Prince, but beware of
> the Gambia-L --- in responding there, you
> may blunt your brilliant quill. Please keep your thoughts for a proper
> forum like Maafanta where you can give your
> undoubted genius full flight.
>
> Kind regards and “thank you”
>
> Dida Jallow-Halake,
> (aka Haile Hail Halake, Fula Prince of Southern Ethiopia).
> You wonder why this confused old boy is always inconsistent, now he too is
> a dreamer, a Prince as well. Life is good.
>
>
> The Prince's flawed concoction has gotten the support of the the
> immaculate Watchman himself. He says, ultra-Mandingos are flipping going bonkers, by
> going into Mma Bah and other historical lesson in defense of Sankanu.
> Watchman, the great shadow enlightenment secular foot soldier hails Sankanu.
> Who would have thought, the writer whose mask made him a bit of a mystery
> would generalise and avoid real issues like the fantasist Sankanu, however,
> this kinds of discussion are hilarious for revealing deep seated cancers.
> If the Watchman wish to call Sankanu a fighter for secular cause, then i
> hope he can educate us with the reasoning of Secularism. Is superstition one
> among the secular talk talk? I wonder. The Watchman comes across a
> harbinger of American and European history, let him go deep into those and again
> inject the Secular doze in this talk. I know he will enjoy it all. A
> challenge may be but old course work text might be handy here.
> The Gambia L awaits the Prince's response. For him to be man enough, he
> has to conquer the L not throwing trash at the media and sitting back. I know
> to be a Prince, one has to be fearless.
> Come Prince, we're waiting.
> I hope you have observe the month of Fasting, spoken to the extended
> family in Kanifing and Sotuma and now you're good to go.
> Thanks to Ansu Koroma for being fair and honest. He never blow his top,
> neither respond to Peter Pan the erstwhile editor for again joining in on
> anything anti-Mandingo. I like his anti-Mandinkarism fo much, I want him to do
> it everyday. This is how useless those who knows his background well will
> always wish for.
> Sankanu, your uncle awaits. The Watchman's moronic baby piece will not
> absolve you. Your are braver than this. Open the cans of worm, the Mandinkas
> are really bad, they are hated. It will be good fostering that narratives
> hey, come on. Your fans will like more scorn thrown at them, please....
> Suntou
>
> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 3:52 AM, Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> This is very interesting exchange indeed.
>
>
>
> "Our national dilemma mirrors the classic scenario of "who would bell the
> cat". No individual, and no ethnicity in The Gambia has any illusion about
> the oppressive character of the Professor's government, but human nature
> being what it is, there is simultaneous covert and overt competition between
> ethnicities to outmanoeuvre each other for the benefit of the common
> oppressor. I need not remind you that in a tribal society like The Gambia, ethnic
> affinity has a more compelling claim to cohesion than even religion."
>
>
>
> The above really shows the flaw in Sankanu's Global Contention. Why
> should the Mandingo be expected to carry the burden to liberate Gambia from our
> killer? What would the Sarahule be doing while the "Mandingo is fighting
> Yaya"? Gass Diamond? I do not know you, but your supposition here is very
> prejudicial. With my limited knowledge of the relationship between
> Mandingoes and Sarahules, I was of the opinion that of all the ethnic groups in
> the Gambia, Sarahules and Mandingoes are close cousins, no? They certainly
> have more in common than say a Ndjago and Mandingo for instance.
>
>
> "Again, why do you want the Mandinkos, without the support of others, to
> take on a role and a responsibility that is of clear national dimensions,
> not to mention potentially tragic?"
>
>
>
> Liberating Gambia is the responsibility of all her peoples and across all
> ethnicities.
>
>
> On the issue of Mandingoes and Islam, how are they more so than the
> Wolofs, Fulas, Serer, jola, etc.? If you intend to discuss the trauma of all the
> other ethnic groups in future installments, sorry for jumping too soon.
> However, it does not appear that was in the works. Again, you sound very
> prejudicial with your global pronouncements. Yaya is getting away with
> murder not because Mandingoes allow him to, but because Gambians, you and I,
> allow him to. I hope you really revisit your global statements and how
> prejudicial they are against the Mandingo.
>
>
> It is unfortunate that you were issued death threats. Why death threats
> when they can simply dissect your global statements without blood letting?
> I will not worry if I were you, for if that was in us, Yaya would have been
> staked a long time ago. If Yaya can kill more than fifty people and
> victimize the whole population and he is still standing, you think any bluff
> will kill you? Dange La Buga Bose Rek. Just do not continue to make these
> ridiculous statements under the name of free speech.
>
>
> Joe
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 00:27:10 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
>
>
> Subject: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin Sankanu
> to Ellen.
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
> Prince B.A. Sankanu
>
> Your "global" contention is a general point, and in so far as economic and
> political stagnation across the continent is of general application, it
> appears that you allowed a characteristic urge to generate needless
> controversy overwhelm your better faculties.
>
> As a cohesive glue, religion is of far less significance than ethnicity,
> and you make no sense in suggesting that a group equal with others under law
> must assume the responsibility of 'liberating' everyone regardless of
> clear and palpable risks to it.
>
> I accept that His Excellency SHEPAD Yahya A J J Jammeh (the Professor)
> continues to utilise a policy of "divide and rule" in The Gambia. If, as you
> suggested, the Professor targets the Mandinkos, does it not follow that the
> overall strategy is to divide others from the Mandinko, instead of dividing
> the Mandinko from others? Going by the internal logic of your own
> contention, it appears that the Mandinko cannot, at the same time, be ascribed the
> status of the victim, as well as the responsibility of the culprit. Think
> it through and the inherent contradiction of your contention may become all
> too clear.
>
> Moving on, you may wish to reexamine your contention that "Yahya Jammeh
> was able to misbehave in the last 16 years partly because the Mandikos
> allowed it. ... If at all Mandinkos acted the moment Jammeh started insulting
> them, he would not have continued. But he would insult the Mandinkos and the
> only reaction I saw from the Mandikos was virtually non".
>
>
> You appear to be a student both of history and contemporary affairs, and
> you cannot therefore fail to appreciate that your own adopted country
> provides a preeminent demonstration of the malign reach of totalitarian power. In
> light of the Professor's "divide and rule" along tribal lines, and
> considering that the police power in a dictatorship such as obtains in The Gambia
> is concentrated in the presidency, why would the Mandinko allowed itself to
> be targeted for destruction? What special status does the Mandinko have
> to wear the mantle of national liberator in a jurisdiction of multiple
> ethnicities?
>
> Our national dilemma mirrors the classic scenario of "who would bell the
> cat". No individual, and no ethnicity in The Gambia has any illusion about
> the oppressive character of the Professor's government, but human nature
> being what it is, there is simultaneous covert and overt competition between
> ethnicities to outmanoeuvre each other for the benefit of the common
> oppressor. I need not remind you that in a tribal society like The Gambia, ethnic
> affinity has a more compelling claim to cohesion than even religion.
>
> Again, why do you want the Mandinkos, without the support of others, to
> take on a role and a responsibility that is of clear national dimensions, not
> to mention potentially tragic?
>
> On "extreme Islamic doctrines", please enlighten on how the Madinko
> differs from "the Fula Allah Jabi Jabani, the Wolofs and their Mouride
> Brotherhood, the Tuculuer and Tijaniyaa, the Serere's respect for their pre-Islamic
> values". As the foregoing are mere statements and not arguments, your case
> is not made. A princely prejudice? There is a persuasive case for that
> supposition!
>
> I take no issue with the rest of your response in the sense they are of no
> specific, and, or, unique application to the Mandinko.
>
> As I take no offence, I require no apology from you. My sole interest is
> to ventilate the issues as understood by you, and I proceed on the hope that
> you are able to frame the debate more objectively in future.
>
>
>
>
>
> LJDarbo
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 7/9/10, Bubacarr Sankanu <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Bubacarr Sankanu <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin Sankanu
> to Ellen.
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Tuesday, 7 September, 2010, 23:40
>
>
> Dear Mr. Darboe,
>
> I am grateful for the warm reception.
>
> I am not above criticism and I made this very clear in my piece: people
> are free to challenge or correct me in a mature manner.
>
> Abdul Karim Sanneh, calling me a liar is just unfortunate and thanks for
> that compliment.
>
> You are Sannneh and possibly a Nyancho and I understand your anger when I
> said that the Nyancho warriors ignored the advice of the African Gods. You
> can call me a liar but this historical fact is indelible and thinking about
> it makes you angry.
>
> To continue with Mr. Darboe, for sure the Mandinkos are not the only ones
> addicted to Islam. The problem is I studied Yahya Jammeh's "divide and rule
> policy" and it affected the Mandinkos the most.
>
> I also mentioned Jammeh's misuse of his own Jola people and the Jola
> justice awaiting him.
>
>
> Yahya Jammeh was able to misbehave in the last 16 years partly because the
> Mandikos allowed it. This is my observation. If at all Mandinkos acted the
> moment Jammeh started insulting them, he would not have continued. But he
> would insult the Mandinkos and the only reaction I saw from the Mandikos
> was virtually non.
>
>
> Ethnic trauma is not an exclusive Mandikno thing. I made reference to the
> African-American trauma and to our own Sarahule trauma.
>
> Many Africans were forced to accept Islam and Christianity against their
> will. Only a few had the change to resist the jihads (e.g. the Dogons of
> Mali, the Hausa Magunzawa of Northern Nigeria and others).
>
>
> I made reference to other Gambian ethnic groups who filtered/localized
> Islam by dropping the extreme doctrines: the Fula Allah Jabi Jabani, the
> Wolofs and their Mouride Brotherhood, the Tuculuer and Tijaniyaa, the Serere's
> respect for their pre-Islamic values.
>
>
>
> My global point is that Africa after 50 years of independence, it is time
> to intensively review all foreign ideologies that are arresting Africa'
> development. Africans love jumping into any novelty that comes from abroad
> without filtering it to suit their values. They easily follow false prophets.
>
> The biggest victims of the African Jihadists like Outhman Dan Fodio and
> others were Africans who were forced to denounce their faiths. The present
> day Northern Nigerian home region of Dan Fodio's origin is the least
> developed part of Nigeria even in African standards. Even though they jumped into
> the Sharia bandwagons in 1990/2000, their situation is still miserable as
> most of them believe Allah will come down to literarily take them out of
> poverty. The kill industry, enterprise and spend their time forcing people to
> just pray and wait for God.
>
>
> I am not against organized religion. I am just against the misuse of
> religion to suppress and arrest human creativity.
>
> President Obama said the future of Africa lies in the hands of Africans.
> The solutions to Africa' problems cannot be found in Saudi Arabia, Iran, UK,
> USA and so on. No matter how much China, USA, UK & Co. love Africa, they
> would not like Africa to compete them on the global stage. They would like
> Africa to develop not according to African but according to their own
> geo-strategic interests.
>
> FILTERING and RE-DISCOVERING the best practices of our pre-Islamic and
> pre-Christian values are inevitable.
>
> Chairman Mao of China wanted to make China a Communist country but the
> project was a disaster as Communism is not part of the Chinese Culture. The
> Chinese are capitalists and they were key players of the old globalization
> through the ancient SILK ROUTES that connected Eurasia.
>
> Mo's successor DEN XIAOPING filtered Communism and integrated the ancient
> Chinese values of entrepreneurship and global trade into his development
> plan. The result we are seeing to day.
>
> This is basically what I am trying to highlight. Madinkos built empires
> just like us Sarahules and all other ethnic groups of The Gambia: we can all
> combine our rich heritages to build a successful Gambian Secular Republic.
> But first we need to do internal self-criticism before we can come up with
> a common agenda.
>
> If the Mandinkos can build great Empires of Mali and Kaabu, they can help
> make the Gambia a Great Nation when they integrate their good old but
> progressive nation building skills into our national development plan.
>
> There is no International Law that says all countries must develop
> according to the Westminster style of governance. Each country must find its own
> system that respect local progressive values, the RULE OF LAW and CIVL
> LIBERTIES.
>
>
> Anyway, I apologize to all those who were disturbed by my unconventional
> but unavoidable though-provoking piece.
>
> Warmest,
>
> Prince B.A. Sankanu
> *********************
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 20:40:06 +0000
> > Von: Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> > An: [log in to unmask]
> > Betreff: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin
> Sankanu to Ellen.
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Prince B.A. Sankanu
> >
> > Welcome to the L (Ellen to your Uncle). You appear to be the first
> royalty
> > to openly associate with our community, and for that, I am ecstatic,
> > the regrettable "death threats" ostensibly directed at you
> notwithstanding.
> >
> > On your "current topic", I suppose that is in reference to "Healing the
> > Mandinkos from the brutal Islamization trauma; Rediscovering our African
> > Native Religions"
> >
> >
> > Leaving aside the substance of your thoughts, I would be grateful for
> some
> > insight to the driving considerations behind your topic itself.
> >
> > And here is why!
> >
> > Our native homeland is both multi-ethnic, and multi-religious. Are
> > Madinkos the sole adherents of the Islamic faith in The Gambia?
> >
> > Assuming you are right in your unargued postulation that that adherency
> > is of such "brutality" it traumatises the Mandinko to this day, do you
> > think your suggested "healing" mechanism is of any practical efficacy
> given
> > the deep interface of current Gambian society with the religions Your
> > Royal Highness singled out for condemnation.
> >
> > Why is the Mandinko the only tribe that needs "healing" when Islam is
> > accepted across ethnicities in The Gambia?
> >
> > Welcome to the interactive world of the L, and just in case you are not
> > aware, we subject views of even Royals to intensive forensic scrutiny.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > LJDarbo
> >
> >
> > From: Bubacarr Sankanu <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 8:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin
> Sankanu
> > to Ellen.
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > Dear G-List Mangers and Members,
> >
> > I thank you all for accepting me. I will do my best to respect the terms
> > and conditions of your august List.
> >
> > As for my current topic, it us sad that some people prefer sending me
> > death threats than engaging me in mature discourse.
> >
> > However, I am not a coward.
> >
> > Thank once more for accepting me.
> >
> > Prince B.A. Sankanu
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > > Datum: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:44:06 -0400
> > > Von: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> > > An: [log in to unmask]
> > > Betreff: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin
> > Sankanu to Ellen.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Suntou my friend,
> > >
> > > I couldn't figure out if you were speaking to me or to Prince Sankanu
> my
> > > royal cousin or when you're speaking to either of us. However from my
> > > vantage point, I share the following with you:
> > >
> > > 1. You are absolutely right that Kaabu is not the only place of
> > Mandingos
> > > neither is it a place solely of Mandingos. It will be interesting for
> > > Sankanu and others to learn that Kaabu's demographics spans Sarahulay,
> > Diola,
> > > Dogon, Fulani, Bambara, Timne, Mende, Hausa, Jollof, and Toucouleur in
> > the
> > > main. Therefore Sankanu's inordinate view of Kaabu as the Mandinka
> > kingdom is
> > > flawed at the very least.
> > >
> > > 2. The bane of Sankanu's article is pride in oneself and one's own. If
> > he
> > > bears inordinately on the Mandingo ethnicity to get his point across,
> I
> > > advise temperance on his part. For the demarcation between ethnic
> > intolerance
> > > and conceit become ever-blurry should Sankanu not apologise to
> Mandingos
> > or
> > > make ammends.
> > >
> > > 3. I am not particularly concerned with the religious undertones of
> > > Sankanu's global views because those are accurate and inspiring. Islam
> > is not my
> > > religion and from what I was told by DaarManso, Islam or Christianity
> is
> > > not the religion of my community, prior or present. There are however
> > lessons
> > > and examples from both the Qur'An and the Bible that all mankind must
> be
> > > proud of and emulate.
> > >
> > > 4. Voodoo is not a religion. It is industry and there to be chosen by
> > the
> > > desiring entrepreneur.
> > >
> > > I therefore encourage my royal cousin Sankanu to make ammends for the
> > > perceived sleight and dishonour of the Mandingos as an ethnic group.
> > >
> > > I also encourage you Suntou to temper your language and genuflections
> in
> > > matters of ethnicity and religion. Allah counsels temperance for the
> > Eemaan.
> > > Regardless of engagement.
> > >
> > > Take care my brother and uncle. You are also Sankanu's uncle therefor.
> > Let
> > > us welcome Sankanu to Ellen with open arms and his prospective value
> to
> > > our community. He will not be immune to improving or sharing his
> > knowledge
> > > with us here. We must not deny ourselves the privileges of communion.
> > >
> > > Haruna.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Tue, Sep 7, 2010 11:30 am
> > > Subject: Re: Laye and JDAM, Please subscribe my knucklehead cousin
> > Sankanu
> > > to Ellen.
> > >
> > >
> > > Let him tell the truth to his Clan members first then he can turn his
> > > attention else where. If Sankanu thinks he is wild, let him at least
> be
> > genuine
> > > about it. Doing fulan kafo is not enough. Your Prince is a complete
> > idiot
> > > just like the purveyor of his bullshit.
> > > He should have remain Emman. He was sending the same email address to
> > the
> > > online papers and now he is running miles away from Emman. Yeah
> Emmanuel
> > of
> > > Soutuma more like. Are you saying Emmanuel was posting things for you
> in
> > > Bantaba, using the email as your contact in Maafanta? Get real. I
> spoted
> > > your duality a long time. So just let it go bro.
> > > Let Sankanu try to learn his history first. Kaabu is not where all
> > Gambian
> > > Mandingos come from. Let him take back his bullshit generalisation.
> > > Voodoo is good, yeah, it help Sankanu to get his resident papers in
> > > German. I thought German is in Europe. Why not Ghana, the former
> kingdom
> > of the
> > > Sarahuleh so Sankanu says.
> > > Yahya Jammeh, Idi Amin, Mabuto, Bukasa, and countless of our guys are
> > said
> > > to use it regularly. And they are Lo and behold, not corrupt.
> > > Sankanu/Emman, if you are into Fulan Kafo, good on you. But you see
> the
> > West adopted
> > > Christianity and they use it today to maintain their societal values
> and
> > > norms. Now did they say, let us not use the laws of the bible to model
> > our
> > > society as we know it today. Where did you ran after the GRTS debacle
> > Sankanu?
> > > No, not to the heart of traditional worship, but miles away from it.
> > >
> > > All the secular advocate spread across Europe borrow their ideas from
> > the
> > > thinking Christianity instituted. When you know, it is then you can
> > depart.
> > > Superstition is what the West has abandon to grow and the Mandingos
> did
> > > the same like all higher human beings.
> > > If you want to deny the unity or existence of God, please go ahead.
> The
> > > near non-Existent paganism in the Gambia may open it's windows to you,
> > that
> > > is if you visit to sell the idea.
> > > The Mandingos left Jalang Bato not under duress but because they knew,
> > > bowing down to something they made with hand is the pick of ignorance.
> A
> > thing
> > > that one makes, then you held that to be a Deity, does that make sense
> > > Sankanu?
> > > Voodoo is use in our society for evil. If you want to change that, go
> > and
> > > show them the good things about Voodoo. I am sure, in Soutuma, they
> will
> > > not only hang you, but you will lose your balls along the way.
> > >
> > > I have been to your village many times. I even remember around 1989
> when
> > > some people gather together to exploit some gullible villagers and
> those
> > of
> > > the Surrounding. They said, A Hyena has made a well. This Well
> suddenly
> > is
> > > said to heal people.
> > > And suddenly, Vans started invading the village from Senegal and
> > > Cassamance. People pay some money to get the water and bath.
> > > But after a couple weeks, the scam was exposed. This happen near your
> > > village. I wonder if you will do a bit of research on that.
> > >
> > > If you think promoting traditional religion is a meaningful thing to
> do,
> > > let us see you recant your faith, then learn Voodoo, may be after a
> > couple
> > > of years, you will become an expert just the propagator of the 'Silo'.
> > Islam
> > > on the other hand is free from actions of people that goes against it
> > > teaching.
> > > Your deceptive use of Arabic words like Harem to pretend that, Islam
> > > allows for such behaviour is flabbergasting. I am sure, we can define
> > Sarahulehs
> > > by the actions of few Sarahuleh as a general norm.
> > > Stop the childishness, your Mother is a woman. If You have no respect
> > for
> > > other women, at least do respect her. Don't let the European cold
> breeze
> > > make you crazy.
> > > Suntou
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I had to tighten my screws to sponsor my second prince (the first
> being
> > > the waldo O'brien-Coker). This is the handle he afforded me to be
> > subscribed:
> > >
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > Can you believe the remarkable conceit and self-confidence?????? I
> > thought
> > > I was bad. I like Sankanu not only for his unorthodox and mind-jolting
> > > rebellion against global idiocies, but for his kind heart and generous
> > > temperament. For those who are insensed by Sankanu, I plead you take a
> > second read
> > > of his writings. I think you are being unreasonable in your disdain of
> > > him. Sankanu tells the truth in the most forceful way he knows how and
> > being a
> > > Prince, he is inuring grave discounts to his pedigree. So enough with
> > your
> > > gratuitous disdains of my Prince and listen to the man. You might
> learn
> > > something gaddamit.
> > >
> > > Haruna.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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