Haruna,

Thanks for your input and thanks for the compliment. I was just going to call it a night when I saw your mail. I agree with most of what you've said. You sound like you know Tripoli inside out. I had even forgotten some of the names of the places you mentioned, except, of course for Gourgi Toule, where I once lived.

I just want to set the record straight though. I have never tried to exempt Boy Narr. What I meant was unacceptable, was trying to hold him PERSONALLY responsible for the atrocities, for that would have some how ruled out Arab racism. I did mention though that in a BBC report that I saw earlier on during the crisis, some Nigerian nationals who had just been evacuated had exempted Boy Narr personally. Whoever has lived in Libya or any other Arab country for that matter, knows that Arab racism is alive and kicking.

Some of your points about Boy Narr though, are very interesting. I hope I can find time in the morning to make a comparison of his pre- and post embargo policies as you suggested. I hope this won't be considered a distraction since it is a relevant theme for Africa in general. In fact  even the Pan-African movement has been divided into two factions; between those who hold that Arabs (North Africans) should be an integral part of the movement and those who oppose their participation, for one reason or another.

Regards,

Kabir.


"Haruna Darbo" <[log in to unmask]>


> What an interesting exchange. I am excited though to learn that everyone
> understood that Arab disdain and hatred for the black colored human being
> exists and that it is embedded in their culture.
> 
> I agree with you Ousainou that nationalism exists everywhere as you cite the
> Guinean example. However, the incidents in Libya were RACISM disguised in
> Nationalism. Reading the anecdotes, I could not miss the fact that ordinary
> Libyan citizens were roaming the streets (Maidan El Tahrir, Gourgi Toule,
> Suk Turak) looking for blacks who were not Libyan. I, Like Kabir, had
> occasion to visit Libya, along with Tunisia, Morocco, Malta, and Algeria.
> There are other foreigners in Libya such as Hungarians, Yugoslavs, Italians,
> Swedes, and Cubans. So unless I suffer from mental paralysis, or
> pseudo-religious apathy, I know for a fact that Arab Racism is real and is
> the root cause of the Negroid genocide that occured.
> 
> This, by-the-way has nothing to do with Islam or the lack thereof in the
> Libyan Psychy. So with all due respect, let us concentrate on the matter at
> hand.
> 
> I had occasion to speak to a BBC reporter for Network Africa while I was in
> Canada. His question related to the call for African Unity under Gaddafi's
> leadership and whether it was sincere. I know that with all his outward
> expressions of comradery and anti-American gesticulations, he was and is NOT
> sincere or honest. Since his alienation, Gaddafi has viewed Africa as
> transit points for "JIHADISTS" and "INTIFADITES". Many a Libyan has obtained
> Gambian, Guinean, Liberian, Sierra Leonean, Lebanese, and Egyptian passports
> for insulation from detection through airports in America and Europe. We are
> not going to go into the purpose of such pursuits but I think anyone with
> any mental acumen could understand why. Further, I encourage you and others
> to learn about Gaddaffi and his views pre-dating the Embargoes and
> Sanctions. Then compare those to his post-restrictive view. If you don't see
> a chameleonic metamorphosis, then, someone's shiiting in their pants.
> Besides, Gaddafi is Arab.
> 
> This brings us to this point. Kabir is right about Arab racism and he is
> looking at the bigger picture. He also has a sincere disdain for the
> capacity for religious fanaticism to cloud judgement. From his writings, I
> understand that he is well read, well travelled, intelligent, and has the
> ability to process the information he is fed. Jabou acknowledges that Arab
> racism exists, and could not agree with Kabir's vindication of Gaddafi as
> part of the responsible parties to this Negroid Genocide. I think if Kabir
> believes that Arab recism toward Negroes is exists, he has to agree that the
> events that prompted this discussion are the cyclical climax of the
> smoldering cinder known as Arab racism. So, in effect, Jabou and Kabir both
> recognize the problem. I am dissapointed in Jabou's attempt to share the
> contents of private communication between Kabir and herself. We are not
> interested in private communication between participants to this forum and
> revelations of such is a breach of implicit contract. I advise all of us to
> refrain from such. I suggest that Jabou and Kabir apologise to each other
> and understand that their shared views far out-value their differences.
> Anything proffered here on the G-L is fodder for challenge and vetting and
> that is healthy. Private communication must remain private. Tempers will
> flare understandably, but when you realize an escalation in an exchange,
> take it private and deal. And then come back to the forum having made up. We
> can't afford derision and enmity between two intelligent and valuable
> members of this community.
> 
> What then should we do about Arab racism? I suggest all concerned victims of
> the Libyan matter evacuate their citizens from Libya and close their
> respective embassies. They must expel Libyan Embassy personnel and Libyan
> citizens from their respective countries to prevent retaliation. If Gaddafi
> still believes in African unity, he will explain how that notion can be
> furthered with no interstate travel,commerce, and employment.
> 
> We have only enough focus and energy to deal with European racism. We don't
> need a mental midget like Gaddafi and Libyans to distract us.
> 
> Cheers!!
> 
> 

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