Hello to everyone out there,
This young woman should not be touched. How can anybody justify that 180 lashes
would remove her blemish. What she needs is counselling likewise those
people who
are suggesting punishment. Only God/Allah knows what our punishment would be.
How many times have we failed to do right and be righteous and then broke
the laws
of God/Allah? Maybe we should all be caned and punished everytime we do wrong.
Everybody included because we are all sinners.
I don't think I've ever seen in any book of religion that said, For your
judgement, 180
lashes. This is wrong. Here is one more case of human's misinterpretation
of the
common laws of God/Allah.
Joka Njall!
At 06:31 PM 9/18/2000 +0000, you wrote:
>Essa,
> Ginny was not referringto the girl's father BUT instead was asking where
>is the co-author of the whole issue.Well, I am of the believe if the shariah
>law should be applied equally as it should be in a normal situation then
>both authors,the girl and her "husband", should be subject to the same
>punishment.Perhaps it was difficult for the girl to establish the father of
>the child.It is just unfortunate that this "little" girl is punished alone.
>
>MARK
>
>
>
>
>>From: tester testers <[log in to unmask]>
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>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Fwd: Nigerian court sentences unmarried pregnant girl to
>> caning
>>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:42:43 -0700
>>
>>Ginny,
>>
>>My belief is that a parent's role (the Dad)is to
>>discipline the child as best as they can. I don't
>>think that any parent would be able to keep tabs with
>>their child on a 24/7 basis. The bottom line is, if a
>>child chooses to be bad, you cannot almost stop
>>him/her from being just that.
>>
>>So my argument is: At what level should you determine
>>that the parent(dad in this instance)should be held
>>responsible for the child's actions. I am sure you
>>would agree that at 17, most most of us started
>>approaching life independently, or at least think they
>>are, although we are still sheltered under Dad's roof.
>>
>>Regards
>>Essa
>>--- Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Hello, I have a question about this story.
>> > Hopefully, someone can help me
>> > answer it. My question is not so much whether or
>> > not the sharia law should
>> > be enacted and used. What I want to know is, where
>> > is the father of this
>> > girl's baby? I mean, she couldn't have gotten
>> > pregnant all by herself.
>> > Would he suffer the same punishment as she is going
>> > to have to?
>> > I just wanted to know because there was no
>> > mention of the father in
>> > this case, and shouldn't he be as guilty as the girl
>> > is?
>> > Ginny
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA"
>> > <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 2:16 PM
>> > Subject: Fwd: Nigerian court sentences unmarried
>> > pregnant girl to caning
>> >
>> >
>> > Nigerian court sentences unmarried pregnant girl to
>> > caning
>> > September 15, 2000
>> > Web posted at: 11:30 PM EDT (0330 GMT)
>> >
>> >
>> > GUSAU, Nigeria (Reuters) -- A pregnant teenage girl
>> > has been sentenced to
>> > 180 strokes of the cane by a Muslim sharia court in
>> > northern Nigeria,
>> > officials said Friday.
>> >
>> > Human rights activists have reacted angrily to the
>> > sentencing of 17-year-old
>> > Bariya Magazu after a trial likely to fuel
>> > controversy over the introduction
>> > of the strict sharia penal code in parts of northern
>> > Nigeria.
>> >
>> > Separately, Roman Catholic bishops of Nigeria issued
>> > a statement calling on
>> > President Olusegun Obasanjo "to address the sharia
>> > issue with the
>> > seriousness and sense of urgency that it deserves."
>> >
>> > The court in Zamfara state, the first of Nigeria's
>> > regional governments to
>> > proclaim sharia law, tried Magazu on charges of
>> > having had pre-marital sex.
>> >
>> > Multi-ethnic Nigeria has been sharply divided over
>> > sharia since late last
>> > year when Zamfara embraced it. Hundreds of people
>> > died in two bouts of
>> > Christian-Muslim bloodletting over plans to
>> > introduce it in neighboring
>> > Kaduna state earlier this year.
>> >
>> > Non-Muslims oppose sharia for its tough sanctions,
>> > such as stoning for
>> > adultery and amputation of hands for theft.
>> >
>> > Zamfara officials said the court in the state
>> > capital Gusau had earlier this
>> > week found Magazu, who is several months pregnant
>> > and being looked after by
>> > her parents, guilty of having sex illegally.
>> >
>> > "The court sentenced her to 180 strokes of the cane,
>> > and she will be
>> > publicly flogged 40 days after she puts to bed
>> > (gives birth)," an official
>> > told Reuters.
>> >
>> > Rights groups described the sentence as barbaric and
>> > a violation of the
>> > girl's fundamental human rights.
>> >
>> > "It's shocking and really very embarrassing. It is
>> > baffling why the Zamfara
>> > government would go ahead to enforce sharia to the
>> > extent of having to give
>> > a small girl 180 strokes of the cane," said Samson
>> > Bako of the
>> > Constitutional Rights Project.
>> >
>> > Bako said a coalition of rights groups would
>> > consider court action against
>> > the central government if it failed to stop the
>> > spread of sharia in the
>> > country.
>> >
>> > Despite opposition, sharia appears popular in the
>> > predominantly Islamic
>> > north where some half a dozen states have adopted it
>> > or are about to do so.
>> >
>> > In their statement issued Friday after a five-day
>> > meeting in Kaduna, the
>> > bishops said their original fear that non-Muslims
>> > would suffer under a
>> > sharia regime had been justified.
>> >
>> > "The reality on the ground in states that have
>> > adopted sharia shows that
>> > non-Muslims are being negatively and unjustly
>> > affected," the statement said.
>> >
>> > In many cases Christian bodies were denied land on
>> > which to build places of
>> > worship, it said.
>> >
>> > While reaffirming their faith in a unified Nigeria,
>> > the bishops said they
>> > believed Nigeria's constitution needed to be
>> > reviewed to reassure people of
>> > all faiths.
>> >
>> > "There should no longer be room for special
>> > provisions for any religion
>> > within our constitution," their statement added.
>> >
>> >
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