Jim et al,
Jim, I wish I can help you here. FYI, both Pa Nderry and Ebou Jallow are
still subscribed to The Gambia Post and they are being moderated for obvious
reasons, to minimize risk while investigation is still in progress. Back to
the game(Oops another goal from Germany it's 4 -2 y'all)
-----Original Message-----
From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of James Taylor
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:57 AM
To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
Subject: [>-<] Scanning Ebou Jallow's emails?
[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "James Taylor"
<[log in to unmask]> ]
Hello,
Sorry guys but i must have missed something here. What does this mean:
Pa Nderry appreciating George for ".. We appreciate your efforts to scan
his mails..." Ebou Jallow's emails.
Can Pa or George please help me out.
Jim
>From: PA NDERRY <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [>-<] Re: Attn: List Managers
>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:09:50 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi Brother George,
>
> I agree with you. We indeed discussed the issue on the phone. What I
>meant by saying that you should follow suit is that: Ebou should be banned
>completely from the Post. This will serve as a deterrent to future hackers.
> We appreciate your efforts to scan his mails, but we believe that the
>likes of Ebou should be stopped from circulating people's private
>communications. We at the Freedom Newspaper appreciate your tireless
>efforts to help end Ebou's madness. The reference made was not intended to
>put the mighty post in bad picture at all. We apologize for any discomfort
>this might have caused.
>
> I must add that George was very helpful to us throughout this period and
>was magnanimous enough to offer advise and counseling regarding the issue.
>We respect the computer guru and his brotherly advises. Please don't take
>any offense for the earlier mail. Sorry for failing to acknowledge these
>facts on the mail earlier sent to the Gambia l. This mail is intended to
>set the records straight.
>
>George Sarr <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> "The G Post should also should follow suit. The move taken by the Gambia
>L
>is not censorship at all. It is geared for the common good."
>
>Pa,
>I join you in congratulating Gambia -L Mgmt for taking some action in your
>favor. That said I do not know what you are talking about G Post following
>suit, especially when we were the first to put the brakes on Ebou's
>madness.
>You know this fact because I discussed it with you over the phone. But you
>come here and tell a different story. Brother, is it too much to ask for
>you
>to report accurately? Come on!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of PA NDERRY
>Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 5:57 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
>
>We welcome the suspension of Ebou Jallow's membership. Its is a positive
>step in the right direction. This shameless dude should have long been
>suspended from the Gambia L. He is anti freedom and his unsolicited mails
>dispatched to this forum had no doubt put many innocent Gambians into
>trouble. Hacker Ebou Jallow and his accomplices will live to regret their
>action. The Freedom Newspaper, is not taking this case lightly. Whoever, is
>implicated in this conspiracy will face the full brunt of the law. The
>Gambia L management should be commended for distancing themselves from
>Ebou's vicious moves to implicate Gambians. He got to be stopped before he
>put the Gambia into flames. Many people are suffering from the hands of the
>hands of the "chickas" because of Ebou. His recent atrocities against our
>innocent subscribers will continue to hunt him. The Freedom Newspaper is
>not
>a party to his cowardly and Ungodly act and will take the necessary actions
>to remedy the situation. The
>G Post should also should follow suit. The move taken by the Gambia L is
>not censorship at all. It is geared for the common good. The interest of
>the Gambian people overrides the interest of "novice and retarded" person
>like Jallow. When freedom is threatened, we should resort to such positive
>move. Once again, we thank the G L management for suspending the enemy.
>
>Joe Sambou wrote: Thank you Malanding and Laye. I am
>glad that this criminal behavior is
>addressed. As you all know, I was a victim at the Gambia Post, when George
>illegally accessed a private correspondence I had with malik (from the
>e-mail address he provided Malik) just because I was a thorn in his flesh.
>Most of the readership turned the other way and some were even happy that
>it
>
>happened to Joe. The good thing was that what I said in that mail was no
>secret for I said it to him in public. My thoughts at the time was, if I
>was hiding my ID and made comments regarding the butcher, this fellow would
>not have hesitated to offer me for a lynching. Thus, we should never be too
>tired to address criminal behavior against any, by any, for it is also an
>assault on our collective.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
> >From: Radio Free Gambia
> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
> >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:19:25 -0500
> >
> >Thanks for the prompt action. I hope the list management comes to a
> >conclusion that will help maintain and enhance the sense of privacy and
> >security on this list.
> >
> >-BambaLaye
> >
> >On Wed, June 7, 2006 11:21 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
> > > BambaLaye,
> > > I understand concern that the right to scream fire must stop outside
>the
> > > theater hall. The rest of the management must be offline now but given
> > > the urgent need to protect the innocence, I have decided to
>temporarily
> > > suspend Mr Jallow's right to post until management have time to
>discuss
> > > the matter. Have a good night.
> > >
> > > Malanding
> > >
> > >
> > > Radio Free Gambia wrote:
> > >
> > >>Thanks Malanding for your prompt response:
> > >>
> > >>"Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not
> > >>Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification."
> > >>
> > >>I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to protect
> >Pa
> > >>Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond
> > >>reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or
> > >>(2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit
> >authority
> > >>to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list.
> > >>
> > >>Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and
> > >>protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we speak.
> > >>Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint to protect
> > >> his
> > >>privacy?
> > >>
> > >>There appears to be two different thresholds set for management action
> >on
> > >>the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the
>integrity
> > >>of this respected list.
> > >>
> > >>Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch my
> >head
> > >>too. Have a great night.
> > >>
> > >>-BambaLaye
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Sister Jabou and BambaLaye,
> > >>>While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal
>mail
> > >>>sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I still believe that it would be
> > >>>unprecedented for management to delist Ebou Jallow without evidence
> > >>>tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa Nderry's privacy. As far
> >as
> > >>>I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to report his address being spoofed to
>G-l
> > >>>management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails without
> > >>>conscent.
> > >>>Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not
> > >>>Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification.
> > >>>Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the managers that Pa
> > >>>contacted them about the suspended account.
> > >>>
> > >>>While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine it
> > >>>not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some of
> >whom
> > >>>he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be fair
>to
> > >>>state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be resubscribed today,
>I
> > >>>hope he would in the future be unambiguous about the status of Ebou's
> > >>>postings, but until the G-l management cannot act.
> > >>>
> > >>> Malanding
> > >>>
> > >>>[log in to unmask] wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Laye,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to
> > >>>> de-list
> > >>>>Ebou Jallow because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site was
> > >>>>illegally
> > >>>>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the
> > >>>> hackers
> > >>>>( and
> > >>>>we all saw that evidence which the management said was the reason
> >they
> > >>>>decided
> > >>>>to de-list his email address for the time being) and Ebou Jallow's
> > >>>>posting
> > >>>>of emails he clearly labels as intercepted private communication to
> >Pa
> > >>>>Nderry
> > >>>>was what led me to also suggest that Ebou Jallow should be de-listed
> > >>>> but
> > >>>>Malanding offered an explanation that still has me scratching my
> >head.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Jabou Joh
> > >>>>
> > >>>>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > >>>>[log in to unmask] writes:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>List Managers:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry Mbai's
> > >>>> claim
> > >>>>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou Jallow
> > >>>>([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to
> >demonstrate
> > >>>>to
> > >>>>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai to
> > >>>> forward
> > >>>>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any satisfactory
> > >>>>demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr. Jallow,
> >he
> > >>>>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of the
> > >>>> list.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim of
> >illegal
> > >>>>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted -
>because
> > >>>> he
> > >>>>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies logic
> > >>>> (in
> > >>>>my
> > >>>>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the list
>with
> > >>>> no
> > >>>>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my
> > >>>> knowledge
> > >>>>so far.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>There has been precedent to such behavior on the list and the
>outcome
> > >>>>was
> > >>>>swift and clear to all.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>My apolgies if this issue is being dealt with under the shadows.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>-BambaLaye
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm, Ebou Jallow said:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>*From*: [log in to unmask]
> > >>>>>*Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM
> > >>>>>*To*: [log in to unmask]
> > >>>>>*Subject*: Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation please
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Pa Nderry,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>I am a visitor to your site. Congrats for setting up the online
>news
> > >>>>>service. I enjoy alot going through it .However what is disturbing
> >to
> > >>>>>me
> > >>>>>is
> > >>>>>that people's private lives are constantly dragged into what seems
> >to
> > >>>>>have
> > >>>>>no links with issues that are relevant to national development. My
> > >>>>>first
> > >>>>>example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the
> > >>>>> second
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him but
> >I
> > >>>>>think
> > >>>>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is living with,
>or
> > >>>>>who
> > >>>>>he
> > >>>>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It sounds so ridiculous to me. It
> > >>>>>makes
> > >>>>>me
> > >>>>>wonder do we have some online saints? Really not. Talking about
> > >>>>>corruption,
> > >>>>>politics and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but
> >trying
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>>smear others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever
>your
> > >>>>>source
> > >>>>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one should
> > >>>>>have
> > >>>>>the
> > >>>>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping silent entrenches the
> > >>>>>problem.
> > >>>>>If
> > >>>>>it is true, I know it is not only the said ambassador who is guilty
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>>sexual harassment in the Gambia, not only in government, it is
>every
> > >>>>>where
> > >>>>>in our schools, in the private offices, in our houses, in the
>media.
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>am
> > >>>>>presently working on a book to be published in some months ahead
>and
> > >>>>>one
> > >>>>>of
> > >>>>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am not
> > >>>>>trying
> > >>>>>to
> > >>>>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government officer but I am
> > >>>>>writing
> > >>>>>an
> > >>>>>independent opinion and certainly as a journalist as well. I know
> >his
> > >>>>>name
> > >>>>>casually like the name of any other person of high portfolio in
> > >>>>>government.
> > >>>>>Thats all but I feel it is not right to denigrate him on no
>grounds,
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>think
> > >>>>>it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his family
>or
> > >>>>>alone.
> > >>>>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside the
> > >>>>>country.
> > >>>>>If
> > >>>>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern us as a nation, why
> >not,
> > >>>>>belch
> > >>>>>it out, sure we all need to know, but otherwise, things like who
> > >>>>> drinks
> > >>>>>beer
> > >>>>>or has a girl friend in the corner is not substantiate enough to
>use
> > >>>>>valuable time on our newspapers that have such a lofty mission. We
> > >>>>> have
> > >>>>>more
> > >>>>>pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning
>that
> > >>>>>Katy
> > >>>>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know her
> >but
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>>feel
> > >>>>>it is equally ridiculous to say that.
> > >>>>>Most times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading
> > >>>>> reports
> > >>>>>or
> > >>>>>some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper
> > >>>>> report
> > >>>>> is
> > >>>>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor a
> > >>>>>summary
> > >>>>>of
> > >>>>>a boigraphical tale.
> > >>>>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I am saying keep up the good work and congrats
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>establishing the newspaper online. But focus on better issues, we
> > >>>>> have
> > >>>>>loads
> > >>>>>of bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Mariama Khan
> > >>>>>Postgraduate student
> > >>>>>Turin, italy
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>autho- Futa Toro
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting lips
> > >>>>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>Mariama Khan
> > >>>>>
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