C. Edward Hamelberg,
I would have no problems with your suggestion if not for the fact that 
Francophones that rejected assimilation have gained in equal terms more of 
political independence. There is every reason for a careful look at the rise 
both of Le Pen and Sarkozy as countereffects of France's own rejection of 
assimilation. "Arrogant" in theses contexts is a precise word.

Sidibeh

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From: "Cornelius Edward Hamelberg" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: Sabuni and FGM (Libraries in the Sand Reveal Africa's Academic 
Past


> Momodou,
>
> After you get back to me ( and us) I also intend to get back to ( not at) 
> you.
> Ginny has highlighted the dilemmas - and for you too, the emphasis is on 
> respect..and not hurting anyone's/ groups sensitive feelings..
>
> Haven't yet found the time to read Chernor Bah's posting, but in the 
> meanwhile ( reacting to your very stiff words about "arrogant rounds of 
> force-feeding
>> immigrants with the cultural diet of the administrators of power in all 
>> its
>> corrosive forms." may I ask that we consider the term" acculturation" 
>> and "assimilation" of the type experienced by our Francophone brothers 
>> and "assimilation" of the type resisted by the Chosen people......
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Acculturation&meta=
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Assimilation&spell=1
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Integration&btnG=Search&meta=
>
> Some near future time we should be talking about diversity management as a 
> programme ( not just policy)  to get people in the work market, among 
> other goals
>
>>
>> From: Momodou S Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: 2006/11/27 må AM 10:18:59 CET
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Ämne: Sabuni and FGM (Libraries in the Sand Reveal Africa's Academic Past
>>
>> Bingo! ....Ginny, you' have raised the ultimate question Saint Cornelius
>> needed to have asked himself. Integration must come through dialogue
>> submerged in mutual respect; not as arrogant rounds of force-feeding
>> immigrants with the cultural diet of the administrators of power in all 
>> its
>> corrosive forms.
>>
>> Cornelius, I will surely get back to this in a few days, perhaps!
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> sidibeh
>>
>>
>> 2006/11/26, Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>:
>> >
>> > OK, if you want to ban FGM, that is one thing, but has anyone 
>> > considered
>> > that forcing girls to
>> > undergo an exam to "prove" that they've not had the practice done could 
>> > be
>> > just as "violating" as
>> > the practice itself?  Let's just say she's undergone the practice, you
>> > want to make it worse by
>> > making her get examined to see the extent of the FGM?
>> >
>> >
>> >     And let's say she's not undergone the practice, now you want to 
>> > force
>> > her to undergo an exam?
>> > To prove that she' snot been?
>> >
>> >
>> >     I can remember being a teenager / child, and I'd have definitely 
>> > been
>> > self-conscience of my
>> > body, and I'd have been completely uncomfortable having people examine 
>> > me.
>> >
>> >
>> >     So, in order to stop one harm, you're going to do antoher.  That's
>> > real nice.  And the only
>> > reason why this is even being entertained is because, presumably? an
>> > African said it.
>> >
>> >
>> >      What stops FGM is not forcing people to do certain things, it's
>> > education, I guess, or I
>> > hope anyway.  It's educating people about the harm, and about how their
>> > bodies work, and doing it
>> > in a culturally sensitive way.  I'd think.  But when you start forcing
>> > people to do things, when
>> > you criminalize things like this, it just goes underground and people 
>> > do
>> > it anyway.  And even more
>> > so when you feel as though, rightly or worngly, people are attacking 
>> > your
>> > culture.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ginny
>> >
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