Joe,
You are very correct, that i should not leave the burden of calling on the
thieves with you. But calling them thieves without having any proof infront of
me, could be called as a deformation of character. A rational decision-maker
always goes by the preponderance of the evidence. One must be able to proof his
/ her case " beyond a reasonable doubt " that is to proof that leaves you firmly
convinced of the defendant`s guilt. Joe, honestly you and I know who the thieves
are in the Gambia. They all acquired their wealth infront of us, without even
going out of the Gambia. How on earth did they get such wealth with the small
salaries they were getting? Joe,
we as a "Ndongohs" frankly, you know all the thieves. You see Matarr frankly
admitted that, but he is right to say that they did not get access to them in
other forums like the G-L. We have all rights to follow all the thieves, but let
us treat them equally the same way we are treating Ebou.
Elhajj.
Joe Sambou skrev:
> Jabou and Elhajj, thanks for your exchange. However, Elhajj, you are a
> Gambian too. How come you want to leave us the burden of calling on all
> thieves that stole from our people. If you know of any, why wait for
> someone else to do the pointing? It should be incumbent on all of us to do
> the pointing. Most of us, including yourself talked about Jammeh and Jawara
> administration thieves, so I do not understand why you think we are singling
> out Ebou. Like I said, no thief is immune. If you know of any others that
> we should take on, please point them out. In the mean time, I will deal
> with Ebou Jallow.
>
> Chi Jaama
>
> Joe Sambou
>
> >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
> >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 18:03:27 +0100
> >
> >Jabou,
> >I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ". In my
> >opinion,
> >all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more than
> >what
> >Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see them
> >attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being attacked. I
> >made
> >it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his action,
> > but i
> >cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What
> >about the
> >others ?
> >Jabou, you know that Ebou did not give me a penny on this amount. I
> >repeatedly
> >said that i sympathize with Ebou, because of the antagonisms he faces
> >within the
> >Gambian community. But let people understand that, one can only sympathize
> >with a
> >friend / relative / whatever / when they face difficulties, but you cannot
> >change
> >the process of the truth. The truth will always be the truth! I hope my
> >fellow
> >G-Lers will understand my positon not to misjudge me. Frankly, I did not
> >regret
> >joining the L, because i met with old friends, met with new friends and
> >usually
> >get a lot of fun here. So, I highly appreciate this gathering, and also
> >respect
> >their views on our debates. It is not always that we will see eye to eye on
> >issues, but it does make us to be enemies. Let us just disagree with
> >respect, not
> >to creat enemity between us.
> >
> >Happy Ramadan
> >Elhajj.
> >
> >Jabou Joh skrev:
> >
> > > Elhadj,
> > >
> > > I hope you are being sarcastic, because whether it was taken as Ebou did
> >or
> > > taken in secret as other did, it all amounts to the same thing, and as
> >far as
> > > I am concerned, they are all thieves, whether they took it during the
> >Jawara
> > > Era or now in various forms. A thief is a thief, and no amount of
> >smoothing
> > > over can ever change that. If one takes what does not belong to them,
> >and
> > > worse still, if what they took was entrusted to them on behalf of the
> >people,
> > > or by the people it puts them into a category that no decent person
> >wants to
> > > belong to.
> > >
> > > Yes, mentioning the thievery practiced by our government officials past
> >and
> > > present very much belongs on Gambia-L, and why?
> > > Because this is a gathering of Gambians, and if such talk does not
> >belong
> > > here, then where in heaven's name does it belong then, in the closet? We
> >have
> > > done too much of that, always trying to hush hush the misdeeds of those
> >who
> > > should exercise the highest moral character because they are the
> >guardians of
> > > what little assets we have,
> > > and all that this does is to send the message that one can do anything
> >and
> > > get away with it. No more. If they do it, we will talk about it loud and
> > > clear for the whole World to hear.No hard feelings Elhadj, and i am sure
> >you
> > > will agree with me because i do believe you are a man of ethics, and
> >truth
> > > can never be the equivalent of falsehood as the holy Qur'an tells us.
> > >
> > > Sister Jabou Joh
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/24/01 6:11:53 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Jabou,
> > > > I am sorry to say, that the truth you have mentioned in your mail,
> >should
> > > > not be
> > > > mentioned on the Gambia-L. Ebou Jallow is the ONLY THIEF who has ever
> > > > stolen the
> > > > coffers of our country. All the rest who took our coffers in the past
> >37
> > > > years
> > > > has borrowed what they took. We hope the so called truthful G-Lers
> >will ask
> > > > them,
> > > > when they will pay back our money? Some are running their progressive
> > > > businesses,
> > > > and others are sitting in their Mansions.
> > > >
> > > > Elhajj
> > > >
> > > > Jabou Joh skrev:
> > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/23/2001 7:57:24 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Samba and co,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean it when I said Ebou is Man. To apologise after all he siad
> >and
> > > > did
> > > > > > against Jammeh and this Government, it is unbelievable. I could
> >not
> > > > beleive
> > > > > > my eyes when I saw the original letter. At first I thought it was
> >fake.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ebou Jallow has done so much damage to President Jammeh and this
> > > > Government
> > > > > > and I do not think he will be forgivened.I think this is all a CIA
> > > > plot. I
> > > > > > have know Ebou Jallow we had a good relation and we still do, but
> >I just
> > > > > > hope he is not stupid enough to step his foot in this country. He
> >will
> > > > be
> > > > > > tried and jailed. Even if President Jammeh forgives him, others
> >would
> > > > not.
> > > > > > He has done wrong to others too, not only President Jammeh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He is a man. He knows what people would say about him and he still
> >came
> > > > out
> > > > > > in public apologising. I think Ebou is being paid and manipulated
> >by the
> > > > > > CIA. I might be wrong but this is my feeling. I do not see
> >anything that
> > > > > > would save Ebou Jallow from being punished for what he did if he
> >comes
> > > > > > back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PEACE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tombong
> > > > >
> > > > > But Tombong,
> > > > >
> > > > > With all due respect, Ebou Jallow has not done anything that Jammeh
> >and co
> > > > > have not done, and on a much larger scale infact. Seems to me that
> >he is
> > > > not
> > > > > the only one who needs to be tried and jailed, so this is a case of
> >" the
> > > > pot
> > > > > calling the kettel black". It is a strange thing when criminals try
> >to
> > > > point
> > > > > fingers at each other.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jabou Joh
> > > > >
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