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HamjattA, you have bocome so patronising it is unbelievable, why on earth do
you have to speak for Mr colley, the guy is capable of dealing with the
issues he raise but you sond as if you are the god father who can interject
but can never handle your reality. Take for instance my serious attempt to
engage you in a serious debate you run helter skelter to the point of saying
its just and issue between you and saiks, you see how narrow you raises of
public intres only to hide behind sophistication, but this is not a question
of linguistic sophistication nor is it about dexterity it is about
substance. Things you say are devoid of substance and unless you come round
to such a reality you would continue to tangle yourself in a quagmire.
Saul


>From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Attn: Ebou Colly ...Let's move on
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:00:20 EDT
>
>KB and Mr Colly,
>
>The political correctness to be found on this List is the stuff of legend!
>OK....Colly might have made certain remarks which interpreted or dramatised
>in a subjective manner is likely to be perceived of as dismissive and
>condescending towards others - especially those with politically correct
>sensibilities. Having conceded that much, i doubt very much if Colly
>intended
>his remarks to hurt any or such politically correct sensibilities. It seems
>to me what made Colly look all the more smug and arrogant is the excessive
>melodramatic effects that has been added to this wholly un-necessary
>fracas.
>The result is two weeks of wasted time, energy and resources on an issue
>that
>could have been settled by our understanding that general remarks are
>fundamentally flawed when they are the focus of subjective analysis and or
>interpretation. Hereupon, we have to spend another week reading Colly
>defending his self against the unfair perception some seem to have of him;
>instead of the July 22nd. Coup Series.
>
>To Colly, i say to you: my Brother there is no way you can answer every
>frivolous distraction and or query, especially if they happen to be the
>politically correct type. The ultimate aim of some these frivolous
>distractions - wittingly or unwittingly - is to insidiously cast aspersion
>on
>the integrity of not only your person but also on your account of the July
>22nd Coup. Gauging by what i've read so far, this has already begun. Where
>this becomes the case, it is absolutely necessary to defend your integrity.
>But, as Brother KB points out, where subjective opinions attempt to paint
>the
>wrong picture of you with unsavoury adjectives, kindly give these
>objections
>a deaf ear and deal with the issues that will ultimately decide where we
>head
>in our struggle for better in the Gambia. More should be your nonchalance
>when the objections act as a Trojan-horse to bring up all sorts of
>politically correct demurrers and frivolous objections that have little or
>no
>bearing on the task ahead.
>
>Like Dampha, its been a disappointing week for me - and i guess for the
>vast
>majority of your readership who keenly await your weekend slots of how the
>July 22nd Coup chanced - as i keep reading these claims and counter-claims
>on
>your person and the totally un-necessary distraction it has generated in
>our
>endeavour to turn things around. Colly, there is absolutely no need for you
>to persuade subscribers of this forum that your are a good bloke and have
>no
>political ambitions whatsoever. Even if you try, our enemies will do their
>damndest to preach to the simple-minded within the ranks of the Opposition
>in
>the name of "fairness", "the quest for the whole truth" and "objectivity"
>that you were part and parcel and parcel of what strengthened Jammeh. This
>is
>why it is no use re-assuring those distracting you on frivolous issues;
>whatever you come up with will not help their politically correct
>sensibilities.
>
>More to the point, some of your detractors are merely nursing childhood
>grudges that have no bearing on today's realities or the realities of
>present
>Gambia. What is most laughable and ridiculous about some of these charges
>against you and Chongan is that they are not only anecdotally frivolous,
>but
>where they carry a grain of truth, are based on youthful indiscretion and
>zealotry. And, of course, the subjective inferences they infer from these
>instances of youthful indiscretion and zealotry, they use to engage in
>self-righteous moralising. Fancy someone like Samba Lingeure
>self-righteously
>and menacingly prowling the corridors of Gambia-L with charges against
>Colly
>like "tyranny" and "arrogance" without a shred of evidence; except those he
>managed to configure in his head based on a warped interpretation of a
>video
>he watched. Is this Samba Linguere well? To add insult to injury, he
>declared
>in oxymoronic terms that he still holds you in "high esteem"! Hold you in
>"high esteem" after smearing you with all sorts of venomous diatribe and
>unsavoury epithets? Where is this Samba Linguere from? After enjoying his
>undeserved fifteen seconds of cyberspace fame, the man can't even come up
>with relevant issues or ideas to help the struggle! All he keep rehearsing
>and harping on is the same froth which is but a figment of his warped
>imagination. Reading the likes of Samba Linguere only informs us that the
>greatest impediment in any struggle that aims to right wrongs is the moral
>indignation and self-righteousness of querulous and petty individuals.
>Suffice for me say that the road to hypocrisy - to paraphrase Milton
>Friedman
>- is paved with self-righteousness and moral authoritarianism.
>
>Like KB, i hope you will seize the initiative and engage us on the crucial
>issues; and simply ignore the snide remarks from your politically correct
>detractors. I look forward to the point where you will fruitfully engage
>those of who are pragmatic pacifists and remain sceptical about the future
>of
>the army as an institution of the State. Hopefully, when you are done with
>your narration of the July 22nd Coup, you will start a discourse whereby
>you
>can tutor those of us who are largely ignorant on military matters,
>especially in developing economies. That way, we can all share insights
>about
>how or whether the army can be transformed into an efficient, modern,
>professional and responsible institution that protects not only the
>sovereign
>integrity of the Gambia but that of its citizenry as well. Until we reach
>such a moment in your series, i implore you again to concentrate on the
>task
>ahead; we simply can't afford another week of frivolous distractions and
>engagements.
>
>All the best,
>
>Hamjatta Kanteh
>
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