Brother Cornelius
Thank you for letting me know the great relationships you have had with some palestinians friends of yours and even a potential wife . Like you I and many others on this forum have condemned all kinds of racism. check it out. whether it is Dafur or south africa or usa or saudi arabia or israel and yes even in palestine. racism like zionism is wrong and two wrongs do not make it right.
I respect your input but object to the one sided view. There are two sides to each coin. yes if the so called muslim leaders in the neighbouring countries had some balls or khutsba if I may use that term , then this problem would have been solved a long time ago. They have the oil power then they could have used it as leverage and cut it off as was done by the late king Fiesal ( may he rest in peace). then many would listen but who will when all our leaders care for how long they will be in power and how much money they have in their swiss bank accounts or how many women they can abuse.
You make some valid points about Gaza and I blame their lack of vision and unity to stop the pain of the helpless majority , unfortunately . it is only the poor and the oppressed who always pay the price
Let me re iterate The jewish religion is not the problem because after all most of us believe in the Torah , the old testament Ingil and the holy Quran - and all the prophets sent by God to deliver one message - peace .
people just pick portions that suit them to quote and omit the whole paragraph that shows the full context .
That is the main issue with all our politicians and even with religious so called scholars and sometimes even us including myself . we tend to have a blind eye to others problems as long as it is not in our backyard. But goodluck in your pursuit of selective thruthfullness
I pray that that Allah guide us all to sanity and peace for mankind's sake
best regards
Habib
> Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 01:12:34 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Isreali etc> To: [log in to unmask]> > Habib, > > (Like Habib Koite),> > > You know that I’m not in a Gambian Forum to discuss Zionism. I’d rather > discuss Pan-Africanism.> > But if you bring up such subjects, I will put in my two cents worth.> > I have Palestinian Muslim friends such as Fah’d Ahmed, Mustapha Gibril Yamani, > Marxist friends such as Jamal, Christian friends too, friends in Gaza, Nablus, > and have no problem with any of them.> > I don’t know any sister Jabou. Who is she? I think that Zionism would be more > a part of Hamelech, than berg...... (that was supposed to be a joke) Berg is > only a mountain……> > There is NOTHING racist about Zionism. Show me where the racism is.> > The slave trade? Darfur? Plenty of racism there.> > I have great sympathy for the Palestinian people. In 1986, I listened to the > Mayor of Gaza, Mr. Shawaal, at the Swedish Institute of International Affairs. I > was sitting about a yard opposite him and witnessed him shed tears, big tears > rolled down the cheeks of this big man, as he spoke about the children in the > overcrowded slum that is Gaza, children without playgrounds,. He was > appealing to the Swedish government to help them build a harbour so that > they could export their tomatoes which were otherwise laying in heaps to rot.> > About that time, I was also giving sadaka, the little that I had.> > Israel left Gaza, lock, stock, barrel, and see what they are doing. FIRING > rockets into Israel, causing havoc, instead of settling down to develop their > piece of territory, building tunnels through which to smuggle weapons from > Egypt. More trouble.> > If I had wanted to, I could have married a Palestinian woman. Such an > arrangement was in the works. I did not for several reasons, one of them being > that at this period of the national life of Palestinians, I thought that for > continuity of the Palestinian generations, and for better prospects of that > consciousness continuing it would be better for her to marry a Palestinian > brother……….> > There is a way out. What is the point of blowing innocent people up and going > to hell in the process of creating a so called Islamic State?> > http://www.google.se/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&q=Zionism> > In the meantime, just as ultra orthodox people like Sat mar and Neturei Karta > want the Messiah to establish Zion, so too some Muslim voices wonder why > the neighbouring Arab nations keep the Palestinian refugees in camps ( just to > point an accusing finger at Israel).> Why these refugees cannot become nationals of their host countries.> Which Palestinian is willing to wait for the Mahdi (a.s.)? > > > This is the kind of leader that Prof Paul Eidelberg would like us to have:> http://www.israel-commentary.org/> > Whatever new government comes into force in Israel will take measures that > are more drastic to protect the lives of the Jewish people in Isreal. The > Palestinian leadership could be wiped out. What will happen? Sheikh Yasin was > targeted from an Apache helicopter as he left the fajr prayer. Rantisi was > translated from life, and the mobile phone exploded in the ear of engineer > Ayash, the bomb-maker.> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6695007.stm> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4813056.stm> > > The backers of HAMAS, such as Iran, I do not think want a two-state > solution. They do not want the “Zionist entity” to exist.> > Suppose someone said that they did not want the Gambia to exist. How would > you go about negotiating with such a person?> > I have a plan. Seriously, I do. Even before Hamas WON THE ELECTION. But > will they listen?> > This is what a Sierra Leonean Roland Bankole Marke wrote:> > “ Pundit dubbed it that God has left Sierra Leona> The blind beggar with leprosy and stretched hands> Pursuing sojourners with fixed eyes expecting alms”> > There too are problems. The Sierra Leone presidential and Parliamentary > elections are on 11th August……> > > cornelius hamelberg> I think sister Jabou has revealed your true identity in her last response ,,> your berg name has zionism written all over it- your boss must pay you well > for such fabricated stories meant to distract and distort facts and insult the > real victims .No one has anything against the religion called Judiasm , it is > racist zionism that most peace loving and just people are againt. Please do > some justice to your conscience and put your self in the position of those > oppresed palestinian peoplewho are being hit from all angles even from thier > own arab and muslim so called brothers.> > remember that justice will prevail as we saw in south Africa .why are you so > defensive and ivasive i just wish we all think of the helpless victims in those > camps and refugee centers being robbed of thier degnity and honr daily> good night> > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤> To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface> at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html> > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l> To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:> [log in to unmask]> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤
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