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Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>
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So then should a rule be established which says that a list member can only 
forward articles from "reputable sources"?  How do we define a "reputable 
source"?

Ginny


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "saihou Mballow" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Selective Forwarding / Re: List Manager(s): SS. Daffeh/Peace 
Justice


> Edi,
>      you have the right to complain to the G-L
> management about anything you feel is going unfair, i
> have no problem with that. This is what is expected
> from genuine concern members of the list to speak out
> their minds without fear or favor.
>
> Ginny Quick has also spoken her mind that a rule for
> one should be the rule for all regarding forwarding of
> articles. And you said (BBC, Foroya, Newstateman etc
> are established reputable institutions). I have
> already seen some articles from some newspapers been
> forwarded to the list.Hence, there is no complain from
> any angle, i would believe that it is within the
> principles of the rules and regulations of G-L to
> forward articles from established Newspapers to the
> list. If this not the case i would appreciated again
> members of the G-L management to come in and through
> some light. Thank you.
>
> Saihou
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- Edi JAH <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Freedom of Speech is one of the most misused
>> phrases, it does have its limitations, be it a
>> constitution, rules or other safeguards. I assume
>> you do follow rules at your work place or any
>> institution or group you join. There are rules
>> here(Gambia-L) that has been circumvented, rendering
>> the rules useless in the process. All I'm saying is
>> this rule should apply to all of us. Enforcing this
>> rule won't gag Daffeh/smballow or his Peace Justice
>> colleagues. They can subscribe to the list and send
>> their postings here from their individual e-mail
>> address' like everyone else. Unless there is
>> something untoward, I don't think any reasonable
>> person will reject this solution. Though you haven't
>> noticed, no one is trying to curtail their freedom
>> of speech.
>>
>> BBC, Foroyaa, Newstateman etc...are establisled
>> reputable institutions. For these organisations
>> publishing garbage will have an adverse effect on
>> their organisations, Daffeh dosen't have that worry.
>> Now the difference is Daffeh comments on issues that
>> are been discussed here, but you can only hear him
>> shouting from the top of the ''Bantaba tree''(
>> garthering under a tree), then disappear into thin
>> air--no matter how fast you lift your head up:-). If
>> Daffeh's pieces discussed, for example how to fly to
>> Mars on a tree branch--then  people will probably
>> just delete it. All of Daffeh's pieces encroaches on
>> topics been discussed here, that's not a problem if
>> he does it interactively.
>>
>> Again freedom of speech should be exercised within
>> the confines of the law/rules of the enviroment you
>> are in.
>>
>> Jah
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list on
>> behalf of Ginny Quick
>> Sent: Wed 08/03/2006 13:25
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Cc:
>> Subject: Selective Forwarding / Re: List
>> Manager(s): SS. Daffeh/Peace Justice
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, all, while I understand some people's
>> concerns about Saihou
>> Mballow forwarding emails from SS Daffeh, if we
>> start saying who can
>> or can't forward, or what one can or can't post /
>> forward, where does
>> it stop?  People forward various things here all
>> the time, from the
>> Foroya to the New Statesman, among other things,
>> and no one in the
>> past has said anything about that.  Is the issue
>> that there isn't a
>> means of commenting and giving feedback to the one
>> writing /
>> forwarding the articles, or is it just that people
>> disagree and so
>> they feel the need to say something?
>>
>>      If you're going to start banning forwards, you
>> should ban
>> everyone or ban no one.  I don't think it's fair to
>> just pick on one
>> person, simply because you disagree with what they
>> are saying.
>>
>>      If I read an issue of Forya or the New
>> Statesman and I feel that
>> what they are saying is wrong, or their logic or
>> use of statistics are
>> faulty, do I have a means to comment directly to
>> them and thus give
>> feedback?  If I don't, and this is just a mere
>> forward, what is the
>> difference between these forwards and what Saihou
>> is forwarding?
>>
>>      I just don't see the "Daffeh" issue is that
>> big of a deal.
>> People forward stuff here all the time, and if I
>> don't like it, most
>> of the itme, I just delete it and move on.  And I
>> think the
>> condemnation of Saihou is a bit selective
>> considering that there have
>> been toher forwards that other people have sent in,
>> that don't have a
>> means whereby people can comment directly to the
>> person, or, of
>> course, the person isn't directly subscribed to the
>> Gambia-l.
>>
>>      If the only difference between what Saihou is
>> doing and what
>> others have done is that the majority of the list
>> members just don't
>> agree with what he, or the author of the forward,
>> is saying, than what
>> does that say about people's supposed support of
>> free speech and
>> democracy?  If one truly believes in free speech
>> and democracy, then
>> one must not try to silence someone that htey don't
>> agree with.
>>
>> Ginny
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/8/06, abdoukarim sanneh
>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Mr Momodou.S Sidibeh
>> >   Thanks for your response. I think the present
>> global historical reality
>> > does not require whether politically you are
>> allied to left or rights. The
>> > British Labour party is a show case example after
>> abolition of clause 4. The
>> > second example is the corporate take over of
>> china which is still under one
>> > party communist rule. The third  example is
>> closer to home Africa National
>> > Congress of South Africa. Within the rank and
>> file of ANC, composed of South
>> > Africa Communist party, advocates of Scientific
>> Socialism, Marxist humanist,
>> > Nationalist, capitalist, etc. What was ANC's
>> pathway to address dehumanise
>> > economic realities of South African masse after
>> liberation from the
>> > aparthied regime? ANC, when into to adopted
>> nothing order than neoliberal
>> > economic policies dictate by the world bank and
>> IMF.
>> >   Mr Sidebeh you are wrong to think UDP is right
>> wing political
>> > organisation. Please I refer you to make a
>> research into the party's
>> > manifesto. UDP value nothing order social
>> democracy with emphasis on rule of
>> > law, constitution democracy and social justice.
>> It is basic fundamental of
>> > the party in the 1996 and 2001 election.
>> >   Mr Sidibeh, just like the Libdem in United
>> Kingdom within their ranks
>> > consist right and left wing politicians but all
>> what the groups share in
>> > common is the liberal values. On the question of
>> New Statesman,even with the
>> > fact that New paper is seem in many quarter as a
>> left wing press but  the
>> > evolution in global politics enable the media to
>> change lot of its utopian
>> > views. It is like globalisation and its
>> discontent in many perspective but
>> > that does not mean that dynamic toward
>> globalisation cannot address global
>> > inequality and environmental issues.
>> >   Once again have a good working week and I hope
>> the progressive debate from
>> > you end will continue.
>> >
>> > Momodou S Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >   Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh Balamang!
>> >
>> > I have the feeling you are wooing me into the
>> UDP? That would be an
>> > impossible sell.
>> > I agree with you that for any coalition to remain
>> stable (and infact
>> > democratic) it ought to be led by " ...a leading
>> opposition...", (your
>> > words). But perhaps that is all you and I agree
>> upon?
>> > I must say that I am a little surprised to learn
>> that you are a UDP militant
>> > as you are the most prolific in feeding us a
>> constant diet of leftist
>> > analysis from the New Statesman. So what are you
>> doing there? Can you or
>> > your fellow UDPians tell me why you are
>> supporting the UDP? Perhaps your
>> > answers may give this debate the radical twist it
>> so greatly needs.
>> >
>> > Good morning,
>> > sidibeh
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "abdoukarim sanneh"
>>
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