COLLY/CHONGAN:

As HAMZA put it best, you guys would not be able to satisfy each and every
JACKASS of this forum, people who could not even comprehend their own
existence much more to understand what it is like to become a soldier,
especially a soldier who experienced horrendous nightmare on death row. We
can't hold most of them to that level of understanding the ordeal through
which decent soldiers go whether in Peace time or War, because the Gambia,
unlike her Sister States such as our neighbors, Senegal, Ghana, Mali and the
two Guineas, had had no such life experiences before in regards to military
life per se, period. It is and will always be a learning process for us as a
nation .

To that end, brothers as HAMZA effectively concluded, after finishing your
historic narrations, we would like you to commence another episodes next
time to dwell extensively on the FUTURE, SIZE, COMPOSITION, TRAINING, MORALE
and the future RESPONSIBILITIES of our MEN and WOMEN in uniform. To my
surprise, the plight of our Men and Women in Uniform has never been a
serious campaign issue for our Presidential Candidates; but it will and
should be in the forefront of issues after every thing is said and done. In
conclusion, I once again extend my sincere appreciation to tireless fighters
like HAMZA, KB and all those who fought to defend the integrity of these
very fine Officers.

Ansumana.



>From: ebrima chongan <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Attn: Ebou Colly ...Let's move on
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 13:19:28 -0700
>
>Ebou Colly,
>
>Just move on, nobody should try to dictate the course
>you want to take. This is a struggle between evil and
>good and these kind of things must be expected. If you
>remember well , during our detention period there were
>more lies and fabrications. Am liberal and open minded
>
>therefore am not averse to genuine criticism. What`s
>really important to me is my conscience and so far as
>am concern am at peace. It pretty easy to put a person
>under the microscope without saying anything about
>oneself. Truth shall always prevail over lies, just
>keep focus and am here to stay and will corroborate
>anything that i can shed light on truthfully. I know
>oneday i will have to account myself before my maker.
>The second point i want to clarify is the issue of the
>name Ebou Colly, I can vividly remember that we chose
>this name at random for security purposes at the  Mile
>2 Prisons inorder to send letters both to the national
>and international media. This was with the sole
>purpose of enlightening people on our conditions so
>that we could not be quietly executed and thank God we
>did so. Therefore used any name you want, whats
>crucial is to say the truth and nothing but the truth.
>Whats important let anybody dispute the narations, i
>think that should be the main issue but not character
>assasinations.
>
>EBRIMA ISMAILA CHONGAN
>
>--- Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > KB and Mr Colly,
> >
> > The political correctness to be found on this List
> > is the stuff of legend!
> > OK....Colly might have made certain remarks which
> > interpreted or dramatised
> > in a subjective manner is likely to be perceived of
> > as dismissive and
> > condescending towards others - especially those with
> > politically correct
> > sensibilities. Having conceded that much, i doubt
> > very much if Colly intended
> > his remarks to hurt any or such politically correct
> > sensibilities. It seems
> > to me what made Colly look all the more smug and
> > arrogant is the excessive
> > melodramatic effects that has been added to this
> > wholly un-necessary fracas.
> > The result is two weeks of wasted time, energy and
> > resources on an issue that
> > could have been settled by our understanding that
> > general remarks are
> > fundamentally flawed when they are the focus of
> > subjective analysis and or
> > interpretation. Hereupon, we have to spend another
> > week reading Colly
> > defending his self against the unfair perception
> > some seem to have of him;
> > instead of the July 22nd. Coup Series.
> >
> > To Colly, i say to you: my Brother there is no way
> > you can answer every
> > frivolous distraction and or query, especially if
> > they happen to be the
> > politically correct type. The ultimate aim of some
> > these frivolous
> > distractions - wittingly or unwittingly - is to
> > insidiously cast aspersion on
> > the integrity of not only your person but also on
> > your account of the July
> > 22nd Coup. Gauging by what i've read so far, this
> > has already begun. Where
> > this becomes the case, it is absolutely necessary to
> > defend your integrity.
> > But, as Brother KB points out, where subjective
> > opinions attempt to paint the
> > wrong picture of you with unsavoury adjectives,
> > kindly give these objections
> > a deaf ear and deal with the issues that will
> > ultimately decide where we head
> > in our struggle for better in the Gambia. More
> > should be your nonchalance
> > when the objections act as a Trojan-horse to bring
> > up all sorts of
> > politically correct demurrers and frivolous
> > objections that have little or no
> > bearing on the task ahead.
> >
> > Like Dampha, its been a disappointing week for me -
> > and i guess for the vast
> > majority of your readership who keenly await your
> > weekend slots of how the
> > July 22nd Coup chanced - as i keep reading these
> > claims and counter-claims on
> > your person and the totally un-necessary distraction
> > it has generated in our
> > endeavour to turn things around. Colly, there is
> > absolutely no need for you
> > to persuade subscribers of this forum that your are
> > a good bloke and have no
> > political ambitions whatsoever. Even if you try, our
> > enemies will do their
> > damndest to preach to the simple-minded within the
> > ranks of the Opposition in
> > the name of "fairness", "the quest for the whole
> > truth" and "objectivity"
> > that you were part and parcel and parcel of what
> > strengthened Jammeh. This is
> > why it is no use re-assuring those distracting you
> > on frivolous issues;
> > whatever you come up with will not help their
> > politically correct
> > sensibilities.
> >
> > More to the point, some of your detractors are
> > merely nursing childhood
> > grudges that have no bearing on today's realities or
> > the realities of present
> > Gambia. What is most laughable and ridiculous about
> > some of these charges
> > against you and Chongan is that they are not only
> > anecdotally frivolous, but
> > where they carry a grain of truth, are based on
> > youthful indiscretion and
> > zealotry. And, of course, the subjective inferences
> > they infer from these
> > instances of youthful indiscretion and zealotry,
> > they use to engage in
> > self-righteous moralising. Fancy someone like Samba
> > Lingeure self-righteously
> > and menacingly prowling the corridors of Gambia-L
> > with charges against Colly
> > like "tyranny" and "arrogance" without a shred of
> > evidence; except those he
> > managed to configure in his head based on a warped
> > interpretation of a video
> > he watched. Is this Samba Linguere well? To add
> > insult to injury, he declared
> > in oxymoronic terms that he still holds you in "high
> > esteem"! Hold you in
> > "high esteem" after smearing you with all sorts of
> > venomous diatribe and
> > unsavoury epithets? Where is this Samba Linguere
> > from? After enjoying his
> > undeserved fifteen seconds of cyberspace fame, the
> > man can't even come up
> > with relevant issues or ideas to help the struggle!
> > All he keep rehearsing
> > and harping on is the same froth which is but a
> > figment of his warped
> > imagination. Reading the likes of Samba Linguere
> > only informs us that the
> > greatest impediment in any struggle that aims to
> > right wrongs is the moral
> > indignation and self-righteousness of querulous and
> > petty individuals.
> > Suffice for me say that the road to hypocrisy - to
> > paraphrase Milton Friedman
> > - is paved with self-righteousness and moral
> > authoritarianism.
> >
> > Like KB, i hope you will seize the initiative and
> > engage us on the crucial
> > issues; and simply ignore the snide remarks from
> > your politically correct
> > detractors. I look forward to the point where you
> > will fruitfully engage
> > those of who are pragmatic pacifists and remain
> > sceptical about the future of
> > the army as an institution of the State. Hopefully,
> > when you are done with
> > your narration of the July 22nd Coup, you will start
> > a discourse whereby you
> > can tutor those of us who are largely ignorant on
> > military matters,
> > especially in developing economies. That way, we can
> > all share insights about
> > how or whether the army can be transformed into an
> > efficient, modern,
> > professional and responsible institution that
> > protects not only the sovereign
> > integrity of the Gambia but that of its citizenry as
> > well. Until we reach
> > such a moment in your series, i implore you again to
> > concentrate on the task
> > ahead; we simply can't afford another week of
> > frivolous distractions and
> > engagements.
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Hamjatta Kanteh
> >
> >
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