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Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
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Lamin,
I remember Father Flynn, the greatest teacher in the whole wide world - my
kids would say. May Allah reward him for his generosity and dedication. The
man went out of his way to pay our transportation to his house in Bakau for
extra classes. I must say it was a great personal achievement to be among
Father Flynn's Add Math boys. I bet it was one reason my great "friend"
Father Gough decided not to send me back to primary school to learn to read
and write. In sum, while I was great number cruncher I could swear I
sometimes wish I was you, Lamin Barrow or Amadou Scattred just for that one
class in a day when I had to face my great friend, Father Gough! I hope
Haruna would excuse me for this divergence.

Coming to my question about any metrics for assess effectiveness of PDOIS
education and civic consciousness program. I believe it is in the best
interest of all parties including PDOIS to have such metrics define in order
to help them make regular objective assessment of their affairs. Although I
am not a political scientist, I have seen people use things like number of
students produced, representation in institutions such as parliament and /or
results of public opinion polls as proxy metrics in assessing
organization/policy effectiveness. 

With such in place there will be little room for misunderstandings or
misrepresentation. And making some or all the metrics out there for public
criticism or comment can only make the institution more accountable to
itself and supporters.
 

Malanding

 
  
 

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Subject: Re: WHY IS PDOIS OR NADD MISUNDERSTOOD

Malanding:
   
  Remember Saints in the mid- to late-70s?
   
  When other members of your class, including myself, were struggling with
ordinary maths, a select group of you were grappling with the stupefying
concepts of Additional Mathematics under the tutelage of Father Flynn. If
not him, then Father somebody, but I think it was Father Flynn. 
   
  After Saints, I stayed away from the mathematical sciences and wouldn't
know how to tackle metric concepts especially in relation to socio-political
questions.
   
  Although another outsider, I am at least aware that through its principal
information organ - FOROYAA - PDOIS has contributed tremendously to
awakening and nurturing the political consciousness of Gambians. It is my
understanding that PDOIS has a multi-purpose centre for the proliferation of
education, especially in the socio-political area. And the leadership are
usually invited by youth-controlled community and civic organisations to
give speeches. I have a video of Halifa giving one such speech at Tujereng
in Kombo South. 
   
  Outside party political functions, I do not recall the leadership of any
other political party being invited to share their socio-political views
with fellow Gambians. In my view, the reason may be attributable to the fact
that in our pre- and post-1994 systems, both the dominant parties have no
sensible programmes to sell to Gambians, and hence continue to exploit the
easy option of steering national life in darkness. 
   
  To preempt a retort of why their relatively insignificant political
representation in government, I suggest you search for answers in the
atrocious unaccountable systems of PPP and APRC. If you require
quantification of the benefits of PDOIS "relentless programme of political
education and civic consciousness", I do not have the mathematical
wherewithal to do that, but I take it the evidence is obvious in the number
of other parties obliterated from the national consciousness with the
passage of time. The PPP itself is one such victim, and the party was at the
centre of national life for three decades.
   
   
   
  LJDarbo 
   
    
   
  

Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  Lamin, my friend from Dabanani, what are metrics out there to help a 
PDOIS outsider understand the effectiveness of PDOIS "relentless 
programme of political education and civic consciousness" in the Gambia?

Malanding

Lamin Darbo wrote:

>Suntou:
> 
> For starters, PDOIS and NADD are different entities.
> 
> Although PDOIS may not be a mass party, its relentless programme of
political education and civic consciousness is proving to be of more
enduring benefit to Gambians than Jawara's thirty two years of waste and
stagnation, and Jammeh's continuing record of directionless dictatorship. 
> 
> Since NADD grew out of the efforts of diaspora Gambia, principally of the
STGDP, have you bothered to ask your conferees about their views regarding
this organisation as responses thereto may better illuminate the thinking
about clearly misinformed mindsets. Although you heard what they said about
PDOIS and NADD, it is not entirely clear that you understood what they
meant. I suggest to you that the art of mastering conversation lies in
appreciating the unstated, especially if the issue at hand is uncomfortable.
> 
> I do not think you should be unduly concerned about the reference to PDOIS
as "anti-religious" and "communist" by "university and college educated"
Gambians. Attending college, and, or university, and being certificated in
the process, is not necessarily a prophylactic against hopeless ignorance.
> 
> I take it your "university and college educated" Gambians are generally
happy with locating a mosque in the administrative headquarters of a secular
and multi-religious nation.
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> LJDarbo
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>SUNTOU TOURAY wrote: I was at a private gambian event yesterday in
Birmingham city U.K .there was about a hundred gambians male and females ,we
were there untill 10pm .but when the discussions which were informal went
political ,all sorts of issues was discussed but when Halifa and pdois was
mention ,almost more than half of those present aggreed that pdois/nadd is
not the alternative to aprc .i was very concern at the magnitude of the
number of educated Gambians misunderstanding of the ideas of pdois .
>
>i am not sure if the excutives of pdois are aware of this
misunderstanding.the party was accussed of both anti-religion to being a
communist party. i did my best to explain otherwise but many didn't want to
listen.
>
>if pdois is not an option in the Gambian political scheme ,and that halifa
and sedia should retire who is the option to aprc ? this men/women present
were not the average illitrate we all would like to blame for the three
election victories of APRC but these are university and college educated
Gambian .Are we under-estimating the extend of political backsliding we are
experiencing ?
>
>we also talked about UDP which some aggreed with their polices but the
majority again don't consider mr Darboe a fomidable leader.
>
>this way of thinking is scary for us ,the door is wide open for APRC to
continue exploitinmg the backward way of thinking about our politicians. Mr
M Sidibe did a good analysis of NADD but what i am concern about is ,why is
PDOIS still misunderstood ? Why is Darboe considered a weak opponent to
Jammeh ? what sort of opponent do we want for yahya and APRC ?
>it seems that our house is not in order .who benefit from all this
misunderstanding and what is the real problem with gambians and politics ?
>
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