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i thank you haruna for humbling me .but i reject the munafigoon tack .any way i though the verse in sura al hujurat may fit better .i quote quran chapter 49 verse 6 '' O you who believe! if a fassig (lair-evil person) comes to you with any news ,verify it ,lest you should harm people in ignorance,and afterwards you become regrateful for what you have done''.
   
  i am not going to swear as to the urtencity of my message but  as the mandinkas would say ''keba loto debola ,nin momehje ,hifan yalon ne hibeda min ) .
  i am also not going to try to convince you .i strongly believe that you have been arround longer me and that you have seen a lot water pass under the bridge .

Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  "my barinding haruna," Suntou.

My mbaringkundanko, how are you. Ok you gotta keep up with me here.

"i was half-brought up in a darboe kunda," Suntou.

How does anyone get half-brought-up Suntou? I don't understand what you 
mean. In anticipation of your clarification, I would share that it may not be 
terribly significant where one is brought up. What matters is what value you 
yield from the up-bringing regardless of where it is you were brought up. I hope 
you had a pleasant experience in the up-bringing. Further, if you are 
conversant with PDOIS, they generally frown upon reference to pedigree or experience 
other than the PDOIS experience. FYI, I was wholly brought up in a 
Darbo-Kunda. For whatever its worth.

"but you are the most cocky darboe i came across on the web, sorry nbarindin 
ngo." Suntou.

I am a Darbo.
I am terribly sorry you find me cocky. I wish I could understand when you 
found me cocky and why. If you're interested in me being uncocky, please share 
with me what you find cocky about me. I do have an aversion to personality 
cults and hero worship for Islam. Forgive me.

"but you are articulate and elegant at the same time." Suntou.

You mean articulately elegant then don't you? You seem to be an authority on 
human character. Have we met before? How do you find me articulately elegant 
when you do not understand what I articulate. I will be happier if you 
understand what I say than your analysis of me being articulate and elegant. I am 
terribly handsome though but that is only valuable to me. This may be one of 
the reasons the PDOIS-educated confuse themselves and Gambians. Well if you 
read through PDOIS' literature and volumes of cassettes, you will come across 
high-fallutin humility and cautions against invoking pedigree, appreciation, 
considerations, or even agreements with other, but folk who are PDOIS 
educated can engage in all kinds of charlatanry and hero worship and blind 
consumption of garbage without due-processes. It is as if PDOIS carted themselves off 
the side with their binoculars focused on the rest of Gambians yet they are 
for the greater good of the collective Gambian. It is worth an exercise in 
discernments, cocky or not. I mean if you brow-beat your client-in-waiting and 
you are not offering divine salvation in return, it may be difficult to subdue 
the clients-in-waiting. What do you think Suntou??

I will see you on the other side of the learning curve to see if you still 
think me friggin cocky.

"i have enormous respect for Joe." Suntou.

I understand. I hope you find Joe inspiring.

"coming to the religious question ,if you would just trust me on this," 
Suntou.

My Ghanaian friend from the Brong-Ahafo region once told me; "Heh Harouna, 
when somebodi tell you trust me, find your children, your wallet, your pen, and 
your keys first, they you beta tell dem you are late for home". I suppose I 
can make an exception for my Suntou since you are my mbaringkundanko. Shoot.

"i was passing on what others think" Suntou.

So you were the thought-police. Ehe!

"not necessarily my own version of pdois." Suntou.

So what is your own version of PDOIS. You must admit you probably chose the 
wrong audience for passing on others' thoughts. Don't you think you ought to 
share that with PDOIS central bureau in order that they may find value in 
those thoughts for their electioneering? Why would you find it valuable to gather 
the thoughts of Gambians from a gathering, and then transfer it to another 
gathering that is not exclusively PDOIS? Seriously, I get confused by you 
PDOIS lot. And you guys are so intelligent. Do you know what Islam says about 
that character. A'outhou billaah minal munaafiqoon!!! This intinet can be very 
enticing.

"halifa himself acknowledged that," Suntou.

Halifa. You probably should have shared the thoughts with Halifa then. Next 
time just send it through Pasamba to Halifa rather than here at Ellen. This is 
probably why I shared my thoughts here with you on the theoughts of others. 
You must also understand that I do not believe you accurately represented the 
thoughts of your fellow Gambians. I know, you could swear up and down the 
yadang, but you were simply not believable when you consider the manner of 
delivery and the erstwhile exaggerations. You have to trust me too on this one.

"some Gambians use to think of them as anti-religion and anti-marriage," 
Suntou.

Some Gambians used to think of them as anti-religion and anti-marriage. 
Suntou, I may be able to help you here. You will be shocked to know that some 
Gambians still think of them thusly. They did not share with you that PDOIS was 
anti-religion and anti-marriage. That was your own embellishment. I hear the 
same comments but generally I would be told Halifa and Sidia are not as strong 
on these issues as they would like them to be. And what I do is that instead 
of peddle the anti- lie to coerce unearned sympathy, I share with them that 
they ought to strengthen their regard for religion (not Islam only), and 
marriage in order to convince their clients-in-waiting that when they become 
leaders, they would not curb religious and or family rights. That is actionable 
information. I must say I haven't heard another weak on religion comment for 
quite some time now. I was shocked when you shared your 'experiences with us. 
Also if you go back and read your own story, you will find out why you are 
not believable in that story. Look at how you composed your sentences in 
narration and look at the position of anti-marriage and anti-religion and come 
back here to share with us your renewed experience. You see I happen to know 
that those are not PDOIS' problems. PDOIS has bigger issues than the perception 
of anti this or anti that. It is the FOR what that PDOIS is wrestling with at 
this time.

"these are things need clarifying ." Suntou.

Did you read Halifa's amicus brief. Sorry response? I think he was trying to 
tell you that in the larger scheme of PDOIS problems, the anti-religion and 
or anti-marriage quip is very low on the totem pole of solutions. Read it 
again. You see Suntou, one reason some folk cannot stand Haruna is because I 
don't lecture folk on how they ought to live or think. I share my way of life and 
elegance as you put it and the values I derive from those. Should my fellow 
citizen find equal or more value in them, fehr dinkum. I cannot be a 
hypocrite. That is anathema to being Darbo as you may have found out. If you are 
going to be PDOIS, it is better to be PDOIS after you understand PDOIS. Or you 
can keep your thoughts about PDOIS to yourself.

Your Barindingkunda, Haruna MQDT Darbo. Don't make me friggin drop the T so 
quick.





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