Well, quite interesting. I have never seen the forum with this kind of
intensive and educative debate before. I think Yus Jow who calls the
Muslims
terrorists, and that the Israelis are suffering as much as the
Palestinians
should have joined the debate too.
Thanks guys for all the interesting information.
Saul S.Jawara.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Momodou Buharry Gassama" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:15 PM
> Subject: Re: Zionism
>
>
> Cornelius,
> I am done with this discussion. Go in peace. May Allah
> grant you peace to be in peace with yourself. May Allah grant your
> peace and the wisdom to fight for justice for all of His creation.
> May
> Allah grant peace and prosperity to you, me, your family, my family,
> all those subscribed to the lists and all His creation. May Allah
> bring
> peace and prosperity to all troubled spots on earth. May Allah soften
> the hearts of oppressors and bring peace to Palestine. May Allah
> bring
> enough peace to your heart to make you realise that people can
> criticise racist and oppressive policies be they those perpetrated by
> Israel, Zionists, Arabs, Africans, Americans, Europeans or Asians. Go
> in peace and note that at least one Muslim has prayed for peace.
>
> Buharry.
>
> ----Original Message----
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Date: May 30, 2007 6:26:28 PM
> To: Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask]
> ICORS.ORG
> Subj: Re: Re: Zionism
>
> You want to put up a show? For? ME?’
> You want to rap?
>
> Of course, I am an academic and - naturally an intellectual.
> As AbdalQadir once said, “By definition, a Muslim is an intellectual”
> If I am not then it doesn’t bother me.
>
> http://www.shaykhabdalqadir.com/content/index.html
>
> There are quite a few in my family, you know, I am not the only one.
> My better half , my daughters are too – both are distinguished - one
> is a gold Medallist First /First in Law University of London ,
> another
> with a Masters is a well placed Civil Servant in the United Kingdom.
>
> Here's one:
> http://mccammon.ucsd.edu/~dhamelbe/resume-web.pdf
>
> But that’s not the only company I keep.
>
> When my son was thirteen, he was more advanced than I was at
> seventeen
> and when I was seventeen, I was at the top of what I liked – and that
> includes any school in Gambia.
> I’m just chatting man. I can rap too – even on my guitar.
>
> Look I’m not an interesting person to discuss with. You want to make
> a
> name for yourself, don’t engage me.
>
> I was only telling you (the examiner) that I intend to start with
> question 12 -
> and I was going to tell you about the Dhimmi status of Jews in
> Islamic
> lands, and the occasional massacres, pogroms, but on the whole the
> Arabs , and Muslims treated the Jewish people much better than the
> Christians have done in Europe, starting with Merry England ,
> Spain,………
> ..
>
> My mother tells me that I spoke Krio English and Fullah (with my
> girlfriend BONGOR, a neighbour’s child.) when I was little.
> From the age of six, when I arrived in England, I lost Krio and
> English, although I do not remember any gradual disappearance. It was
> as if it was an instantaneous disappearance since there was no one
> that
> I could speak Fullah or Krio with.
>
> Let’s not talk about mother tongues. There are many. Interest in
> India
> can take you to Sanskrit, just as I expect you to be polishing off
> your
> Arabic, the language of the Koran…
>
>
>>
>> From: Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: 2007/05/30 on PM 05:52:08 CEST
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Ämne: Re: Zionism
>>
>> Cornelius,
>> DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! You wrote:
>>
>> "Which first so called answer? I am not aware of having answered
> any
>> of the twenty questions yet, and now, I no longer intend to do so."
>>
>> You wrote earlier:
>>
>> "If it’s Ok with you, I intend to answer all the questions, but
> would
>> like to start with question 12, because I’ve got the answer to the
>> first part of that question based on a lecture that I attended on
> 30th
>> October 2005, by Professor Mark Cohen ( Princeton) who is an
> authority
>> on that question."
>>
>> Do you believe yourself? If you want to bow out because you have
> been
>> caught, do so with grace. (It would be sad though because now that
> you
>> have informed us that you are an academic and intellectual, I would
>> have loved to see your stuff)
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> "You telling an intellectual and academic that he can’t talk.
> Think?
> I
>> have answered most of my own questions and suggest that you learn
> to
> do
>> the same – if you can, knowing as you do, and that I am not your
>> fountain of truth.
>>
>> Last book read was “For What Tomorrow”
>>
>> English is my mother tongue. "
>>
>>
>> Wollof, Fula and Jahanka are my mother tongues. Then I studied
>> English. Even with English being so far down the line of learned
>> languages, I can still see the contradiction in your position.
> Simply
>> put, DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK! DOUBLETHINK!
>>
>> Buharry.
>>
>>
>> ----Original Message----
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: May 30, 2007 5:04:03 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subj: Re: Zionism
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Which first so called answer?
>>
>> I am not aware of having answered any of the twenty questions yet,
> and
>> now, I no longer intend to do so. I may change my mind , but you
> too
>> must have a basic level of competence in understanding simple
> things.
>>
>>
>> You telling an intellectual and academic that he can’t talk. Think?
> I
>> have answered most of my own questions and suggest that you learn
> to
> do
>> the same – if you can, knowing as you do, and that I am not your
>> fountain of truth.
>>
>> Last book read was “For What Tomorrow”
>>
>> English is my mother tongue. I did study English, philosophy and
> that
>> more than anything else gave me a foundation to pursue such
> interests.
>>
>> I just looked at this interesting item, which I’m sure will
> interest
>> you too.
>>
>> http://www.israpundit.com/2006/?p=4853#comments
>>
>> About whatever question bothers you had better look for your own
>> answers. Ask you religious leader(s), the one(s) that you follow. I
>> have grappled with problems that are much more complicated than
>> whatever it is you are trying to say. I have a pile of books, still
>> unopened, so now let me retire with this introduction by Dan Cohn-
>> Sherbok that’s been on my shelf some three years now, I’ve read a
>> couple of his other books:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.com/Fifty-Key-Jewish-Thinkers-Cohn-
>> Sherbok/dp/0415126282
>>
>> I have now decided that I will not waste my time being nice.
>>
>> I do not have a problem with either Islam or the Jewish people and
> I
>> am probably not intelligent enough to make you or anyone else
>> understand anything. I wish that I could have got across and hope
> that
>> you will get the answers that you seek from people much better
>> qualified to provide the answers that may satisfy you, the way that
> Abu
>> Wafa al-Taftanzani satisfied me in Cairo, and dispelled the last
> little
>> cloud that obscured my understanding. There was no beating about
> the
>> bush.
>>
>> I don’t have any questions for Lamin Sanneh either.
>>
>> So please, some people’s rigorous demands are more difficult to
> meet
>> than others, and here let me admit defeat, ok?
>>
>> Merci.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > From: [log in to unmask]
>> > Date: 2007/05/30 on PM 03:19:54 CEST
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Ämne: Re: Zionism
>> >
>> > Your first so-called answer to the questions is another link of
>> someone else's opinion. Still waiting for the answers.
>> >
>> > Stop regurgitating the stuff you are fed and answer the questions
>> using your own opinions if you can.
>> > J.Joh
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Sent: Wed, 30 May 2007 3:26 am
>> > Subject: Re: Zionism
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > As Habib wrote, ? i wish we all simply practice what we are
> thaught
>> , love for
>> > ach other respect for each other and recognizing that we will all
>> die one day.?
>> > What?s all this about me not having ?own opinions ? /?only able
> to
>> regurgitate
>> > hat your Zionist handlers feed you and what you can google on the
>> net? Answer
>> > he questions and stop beating about the bush and spewing out
>> irrelevant
>> > ubbledeguck.? Is that called for? What are you angry about?
>> > ?the list of question brother Buhari sent to you for your
> masters
>> to answer?
>> > please relay to your bosses? etc Well, your darling Muhammad is
> not
>> my boss and
>> > only have ONE BOSS , and HE is the King of Kings of Kings.
>> > I was not beaten or bullied as a child, so please don?t think
> that
>> you or anyone
>> > lse is about to succeed in doing that. I was taught the very
> best
>> manners. I
>> > as born in Freetown, and I respect and value freedom.
>> > I try to answer your questions as a courtesy, it?s part of good
>> adab. Humility
>> > oes not need a disguise ? nor does false pride, that?s why you
> haven?
>> t read any
>> > oetry from me ? compared to what?
>> > I cannot remember how I felt, what I thought, what was going on
> in
>> my mind, when
>> > was tying Hazrat Agha?s shoelaces, except that I was very happy
>> and it was a
>> > ery important job, so I did it as best I could. Tying a knot on
> the
>> Sabbath
>> > omes under the classification of melakhah.
>> > I may - by all standards be less educated , less vocal , and
> less
>> opinionated
>> > han you, and less competent or able to think , judge,
> appreciate,
>> decide for
>> > yself and express myself to others verbally or otherwise, but
> that?
>> s not up to
>> > e to judge and no professor has ever told me that I was average.
> At
>> Dr.
>> > urbaksh Terry Graham told me that one has to be quick, to catch
> it
>> fast. Lenny
>> > hought that mosque visits were making me aggressive, because of a
>> letter I
>> > rote in Tehran Times.
>> > Since I cannot share my library with you ? or the Synagogue
> library,
>> or any of
>> > he periodicals or Newspapers, I send you links.
>> > don?t have to, but they do contain valuable information, and as
>> for
>> > ropaganda, even the Encyclopaedia Britannica is not exempt.
>> > When Amos Oz launched his autobiographical work, he was asked
> about
>> the
>> > esources of the Hebrew language and he more or less said that
> some
>> things can
>> > nly be expressed in that language. Some other Sufi-type things
>> cannot be
>> > xpressed in any language at all, at least not by me.
>> > ???????????.
>> > This popped up on my regular Leonenet Forum, last night and I?d
> like
>> to share
>> > hat too.
>> > ot that I don?t have an opinion about it, I do, I have an opinion
>> (my own)
>> > bout everything. And know some guys in Ghana and Nigeria, who are
>> bigger and
>> > uch more opinionated than your Yaya.
>> > hat too was an opinion:
>> > From our Sierra Leone Forum (I?ve taken the liberty to share or
>> would you prefer
>> > hat I whisper it in your ear? I?m sharing it here, because
> yesterday
>> my two
>> > ast postings were rejected. I only posted seven items yesterday,
>> and I think
>> > hat?s the maximum allowed in one day. SO I have to be economical
> and
>> that?s why
>> > t?s here (so that those who were foaming in the mouth about Paul
>> Wolfowitz can
>> > oam some more about even this:
>> > ? Released for the 50th anniversary of Ghana ?s independence from
>> British
>> > olonial rule, the film, Damned by Debt Relief, puts real freedom,
>> independence
>> > nd serious development on the map.
>> > Shot in Ghana, the film is a stark reminder of the devastating
>> conditions
>> > ttached to debt relief following the G8 Gleneagles deal in 2005,
> not
>> least the
>> > enial of autonomy, degradation of democracy and low horizons
>> enshrined in so
>> > alled "poverty reduction" strategies.?
>> > The video:
>> >
>> > www.worldwrite. org.uk/damned
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > From: [log in to unmask]
>> > Date: 2007/05/30 on AM 04:22:27 CEST
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> > Ämne: Re: Zionism as a Racist Ideology/ what's the matter
>> Cornelius?
>> >
>> > What's the matter Corneluis, you do not have your own
> opinions?
>> Are you only
>> > ble to regurgitate what your Zionist handlers feed you and what
> you
>> can google
>> > n the net?
>> > Answer the questions and stop beating about the bush and
> spewing
>> out
>> > rrelevant gubbledeguck.
>> > J.Joh
>> >
>> >
>> >
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