Yero:
With due respect, calm down and try to be reasonable. You are reacting, lashing
out and mixing things that do not belong. Clearly, you missed the essence of my
posting. That is, the need to not move on and to remain engaged on G-L and
affairs of The Gambia. In addition, I listed the accomplishments of the G-L and
outlined an agenda for the future. It is in this context that I said "democracy
in The Gambia is a work in progress." I believe that the political process is
more open today than it was in 1996 and that the G-L played its part in this.
Thus, anyone who knows anything about the subject, knows that democracy is a
process, a work in progress. This is elementary and an issue we should not
disagree. And since we happen to be talking about The Gambia, it makes sense to
be specific.
If you wish to take me on regarding what I say or do, I will be glad to respond
to you, but you need to be organized and clear in your thinking and writing.
And whether I'm a "DOCTOR or PROFESSOR" is not important here nor an issue.
Clearly, it is an issue for you. My record speaks for itself. The important
thing, however, is I am Gambian who is dedicated to Justice and democracy in The
Gambia. And no amount of ranting or name calling is going to stop me.
If the opposition defeated Jammeh in the last elections, I would be a thorn on
the side of the new government if I perceive their polices to be at variance
with their expressed plan. I would be the first to defend the human and legal
rights of Jammeh and his supporters in a court of law.
Let me say it one more time, the issue for me is not Jammeh per se, but his
policies and their effects on Gambians. Call me a nationalist or whatever.
What I focus on at the end of the day, is the impact of these policies on the
average Gambian.
You are either a democrat/ human rights activist or not. The principle is
indivisible, be it in The Gambia, Afghanistan or Peru. Please do not muddy the
waters. The G-L and Gambia are grappling with difficult issues and making
progress.
I hope I have made myself clear. This is the last thing I will say about the
issue.
Regards,
Abdoulaye
YERO MAMA wrote:
> Mr.You wrote "democracy in the gambia is a work in progress" I would
> reciprocate that latest lesson from you Mr.learned GUY by telling you that;
> So is "democracy in the world a work in progress".The democratic flaws and
> shortcomings within our geopolitical arena, are inter-continental!They are
> not Gambian!
> So any serious accademician,politician,OR ADVOCATOR!will have to JOIN THOSE
> WANT TO readjust the international trend and stop the "jabbering" TOWARDS
> AFRICAN LEADERS ALONE!
> We heard and do hear other valuable assets like James Jonnah et al and
> these DOCTORS! are yearning for an international approach.Unlike some of you
> who languish behind such "canalised" regionalistic and "vous" syndromes.
> Its been widely noticed that the so-CALLED DOCTORS AND PROFESSORS ON THE L
> pick and choose who to talk to! Is that what we expect from people who want
> to safe us?
>
> Unfortunately and to my surprise! Still some on this very forum who see
> themselves as super democrats have "cunningly" taken a u-TURN to say that
> the OLIVE BRANCH FROM JAMMEH ISN'T ENOUGH BECAUSE OF THIS AND THAT!
> Now what makes me wonder is,are any amongst those who say these things more
> reliable than jammeh? Have we ever had the opportunity to dissect the
> history of these people here? I mean their official or political
> participation towards the development of the Gambia that they are claiming
> to own? Its obvious that if such happens to be there will be much left to be
> desired.
> Lets not fool ourselves and start snobbing or refuting ideas from others
> because of self-IMPOSED arrogance!
> KATIM said that Jammeh is and was arrogant...This leaves me perplexed
> because arrogance is a word that suits the characters i see here more than
> any other individual on earth!
> I know that people like me have been classified and branded within your
> circles thus messages from our likes aren't sweet,therefore not to be
> replied(BEING THE USUAL TREND).This style and this approach my brothers is
> more of a sign of arrogance than any reationary attitude from any APRC or
> JAMMEH fan!
>
> Don't you think that sidelining people and snobbing those that you do not
> agree with politically, itself is not compartible with serious
> "intellectualism"? ALL THOSE WHO DO NOT sing THE SONG OF "WELL DONE
> DOCTORS!" are considered the bins to receive harsh words from your choir of
> gambial.
> MY PROBLEM WITH SUCH "KABUDU-INTELLECTUALISED-CAMPS" IS SIMPLY BASED ON
> PRINCIPLES PLEASE TRY AND RESPECT THE VIEWS OF OTHERS AND BROOD THROUGH
> REASONS AND NOT WISHES!
>
> Reply or not thats my take on your latest attempts!
>
> "YEROMAMA PULORI GALO HAAWA BAROGEL N'DIMOU"
> "Speak the speeches and let the speeches not spit you."
>
> >From: Abdoulaye Saine <[log in to unmask]>
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> >Subject: PLEASE DO NOT MOVE ON!
> >Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2001 16:24:21 -0400
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> >G-L Community:
> >
> >While some are disappointed in the outcome of the October, 2001
> >Presidential election, we must all take pride in the fact that the
> >election was "free and fair" and an improvement on the referendum over
> >the Constitution and the 1996 Presidential election. More important,
> >Decree 89 was lifted, perhaps a little too late, but nonetheless,
> >LIFTED. Access to the media by opposition political parties though not
> >equal, improved somewhat. A Governance Conference was held, even if
> >some members of the opposition walked out. Most of us advocated for a
> >United Opposition, three parties out of five opposition parties did. And
> >many donated, however little, to the party/candidate of their choice.
> >These are what many of us fought for (See the G-L Position Paper). In
> >fact, careful analysis would suggest that Gambia-L played an important
> >role in ensuring a more level and open political terrain and atmosphere
> >. ( I will write a longer research paper on this later). AND WE HAVE A
> >LOT MORE TO DO!
> >
> >When we started to send petitions all over, about two years ago, many
> >felt that it may lead to nothing. To the contrary, the petitions we
> >sent around the world(including The Gambia) and the responses we
> >received made a difference. Equally important, is that the APRC and /or
> >its representatives on the G-L listened and debated us. We HAVE AN
> >AUDIENCE.
> >
> >The activities of the New York, UK based MRDG, in addition to other
> >organizations in D.C, North Carolina, Scandinavia, Germany etc., and
> >numerous petitions, demonstrations and writings by members of the G-L,
> >helped set the agenda for change, leading to the elections we just
> >witnessed. In order words, combined international, domestic and G-L
> >pressure helped move the political process to where it is now. In sum,
> >the political system has opened some, in part because of our activism
> >and its impact on civic education. Today, Gambia's civil society is
> >perhaps stronger for it.
> >
> >NOW IS NOT THE TIME TO MOVE ON BUT TO STAY PUT AND STRUGGLE FOR MORE!
> >
> >The Gambia-L, rightly or wrongly has come to constitute, despite our
> >differences and occasional squabbles, a VOICE(s) that can not be IGNORED
> >or SILENCED. All but two of the Presidential candidates addressed
> >various Gambian communities in the US and Europe and those who could not
> >sent representatives.
> >
> > WE MUST REMAIN ENGAGED! Many burning issues remain. These include:
> >
> >* Release/ Amnesty of/ for all political prisoners;
> >* More Press Freedoms;
> >* Voting Rights Bill for Overseas Gambians;
> >* End to illegal arrests and emphasis on due process;
> >* Right of Return and Protection of all exiles(self-imposed or
> >otherwise);
> >* Deploy students for civic and community service;
> >* Return of all seized properties to their lawful owners, (if found
> >innocent of wrong doing);
> > (These are just a few things that came to mind.)
> >
> >Democracy in The Gambia is a work in progress. DO NOT MOVE ON. REMAIN
> >ENGAGED.
> >
> >Abdoulaye
> >
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