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I think I owe it to my Sarahuleh clansmen not to allow the mankasoo people
have the last word on this  important subject.Despite Mr.Samateh's breast
beating triumphalism,Mr Emmams data supporting his claim have less than one
leg to stand on.Anybody who has been watching Gambia Tv.knows that the
totality of boat people intercepted by agents of the Gambia Police Force
over recent months hail not from the Alongharis of the Gambia ,but Mankanaso
capitals like Alkali Kunda, Jarjari, Sali Kenyeh and the like.Even more
damning than that, eighty percent of the twenty-thousand Gambians resident
in Spain are Badibunkas.That is an outrageous disproportion,considering the
fact that their share of the Gambia population is well below ten
percent.SoEmmams attempt to pin this one on the Sarahulehs is doomed
to failure.

Regards Basss

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On 8/17/07, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Emman,
> Who are you ? I just did not want to talk,waiting for great people like
> you to tell Bass the real thing.Thanks for doing so.
> For Freedom
> Saiks> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 00:00:09 +0200> From: [log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: The road a showdown over illegal migration> To:
> [log in to unmask]> > Hello Bass Drammeh,> > Thanks, I just to
> help add power to your this point:> > > "Badibunka discovery has made such a
> splash and impact in the Gambia that> even the proverbial money mongers of
> the Gambia,the Sarrahulehs have started contemplating abandoning their
> traditional diamond speculatiing adventures in Congo and Angola for the
> Spanish bandwagon."> > > Experices trallevers say that the proverbial money
> mogners of the Gambia, the Sarahules, have bee in SPAIN since in the 1960s
> at the same time they "conquered" France.> > > If you have time, you can
> visit the town of Gambisarra, Allunhari, Garawol, Sabi, Kumbeja, etc to see
> the bombastic villas!> > > So their Baddibunak "cousins" are following their
> examples - 40 years later - not the other way round.> > Emman Salaam> > > >
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------> Datum: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:26:17
> +0100> Von: BASS DRAMMEH <[log in to unmask]>> An:
> [log in to unmask]> Betreff: Re: The road a showdown over illegal
> migration> > > The entire Badibou landscape has now been profoundly
> transformed thanks to> > the Euro money transfers coming from the Badibunka
> diaspora resident in> > the> > various Spanish provinces.Most of the
> erstwhile Mankanaso farms> > in Badibou have now given way to modern
> building complexes with most of> > the> > modern amenities known in Badibou
> as Self Containoo, powered by solar> > panels and made livable by the access
> to clean running water and stand and> > ceiling fans.All of a sudden the
> Badibunkas have made a powerful> > discovery!> > They have just discovered
> that in lieu of selling Fogga Jays (used> > clothes)> > at the Sukuru Kunda
> market for donkey years without making ends meet,they> > could just sell
> their stalls to the Faanafaanas or Nigerians for sixty> > thousand
> Dalasis,pay the Spannish middlemen for forty thousand,use the> > balance as
> pocket money whilst trying to get work in> > Spain.Andnotwithstanding the
> occasional tragedies and misshaps here> > and there,the> > Badibunka
> discovery has made such a splash and impact in the Gambia that> > even the
> proverbial money mongers of the Gambia,the Sarrahulehs have> > started> >
> contemplating abandoning their traditional diamond speculatiing adventures>
> > in Congo and Angola for the Spanish bandwagon.> > > > Anybody who knows
> the strenght and intensity of this wave in the Gambia> > right now, knows
> that not even a ten million Euro skill center is capable> > of stemming
> either the wave or dampening the spirits or the NERVES, as it> > is> >
> commoly known here.But that is not to say that we should not accept the> >
> offer.Of course we should! We need that Skill Center regardless of who> >
> gives> > it to us and what the conditions for constructing it are.TheGambia> > government on its part will do some window dressing here and
> there,if> > nothing else but to impress upon the spanish authorities that it
> is doing> > something about the matter.That is how the Game is played.> >
> > > The Badibunkas and their emulators,in the meantime,will continue to
> devise> > more ingenius and dangerous ways of getting into Barcelona and
> other> > Spanish> > cities.That wave will continue unabated ,regardless of
> what the Gambian> > Government will do,until the dangers and risks involved
> have reached a> > critical mass,or atleast the Gambia public perception of
> those dangers> > reach> > that point.Short of reaching that point,any
> attempts to stem the tide is> > doomed to failure.And who said You Cannot
> Have Your Cake And Eat It At The> > Same Time?!> > > > Regards Basss> > > >
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > > > > > > > > On 8/14/07, Edie Sidibeh <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:> > >> > > As you rightfully protested,
> this is really a meaningful analysis even> > > whereas, I am not good in
> numbers, I can understand the simplicity of> > its> > > analysis. Then
> again, Dr. Jaiteh, orthodox of Gambian believe also> > protested> > > the
> fact that, what is meant to happen cannot be prevented, therefore> > those>
> > > who are meant to brake the barrier and enter Spain, will or cannot be> >
> > compromised by 1 million dalasis.> > >> > > However, Million Dalasi is a
> huge amount if they spend it rightfully and> > > will benefit lots and lots
> of the youths as well as the country to gain> > > skillful and meaningful
> education regarding if coupled with better> > educator> > > in the said
> Fields of studies. undeniably, Africa have placed herself in> > a> > > Marcy
> situation in the eye of the west and therefore, before we open up> > our> >
> > eyes we have to be cleaver in playing their games of politic by> >
> accepting> > > their offers and put it in good use to benefit our countries
> and the> > people.> > > I am well aware of the fact that I am a dreamer but
> just a wisdom.> > however,> > > west are well aware of the fact of
> corruption level in Africa and> > therefore> > > send billions of dollars to
> Africa knowing quite well that they will not> > be> > > use to their
> purposes but end up in their own banks to yet make addition> > > profit on
> the same loan given to us just like our coffees and other> > natural> > >
> resources.> > >> > > How many coffee factories are in the west? and how many
> chocolate> > > factories? how many employees does those factories employed?
> how much do> > > they get the raw materials and how much do they sell the
> finish product> > back> > > to us? therefore playing their game by taking
> their money for loan and> > put> > > it in proper education and job creation
> for our people and later asked> > for> > > dept cancellation will then be
> proper and profitable for our continent I> > > assumed. I personally think,
> corruption and mismanagement played a> > > significant part in our
> development. If this was not the case, Africa by> > now> > > should be
> heaven on earth due to the our rightful trillions of dollars> > pump> > > in
> from the west which end up bach to where it came from just like our> > >
> product.> > > Edi> > >> > > Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:>
> > > IThe employment figures for the same group show only 454,682 (66%) do> >
> not> > > know what the Daily Observer mean by illegal migration but> > >
> makes me wonder what this showdown will bring. First, may I ask how many> >
> > of the 20,000 "illegal migrants" in Spain are minors? and what is the> > >
> breakdown of their educational status? Also would increase training of> > >
> Gambians in agriculture, carpentry, fishinng, construction, electricity> > >
> really curb this "illegal migration"? The 2003 census figures show of> > >
> the 689,201 Gambians aged 15 years and over, 272,762 (40%) had no> > >
> education, 52,517 (8%) no more than primary edu, 176930 (26%) some for> > >
> of secondary education, 13360 (under 2%) with vocational training> > >
> including teachers, 2309 (3 tenths of 1%) with undergrad education, 2357> >
> > (3 tenths of 1%) graduate education and 1467 (2 tenths of 1%) post> > >
> graducate education. Please note that about about 167499(23% ) claim not> >
> > to belong to any of the above groups.> > >> > > It is interesting to note
> that only 6,133 Gambians living in the Gambia> > > in 2003 reported having a
> university degree (undergrad to Post grad).> > > You wonder how that figure
> compare to that of all Gambian-born degree> > > holders? A database of
> health professionals emigrating from Africa> > > (Michael Clemens and
> Gunilla Pettersson 2006) showed that there are 46> > > (53%) Gambian-born
> physicians (Doctors in medicine) liing in nine> > > countries abroad
> compared to 40 living in the Gambia. The number of is> > > much higher with
> practicing nurses with 282 living in nine countries> > > abroad compared to
> 144 in the Gambia. It is interesting to note is that> > > none of these were
> said to be living in Spain.> > >> > >> > > reported being employed. Of these
> over 215,592 (47%) are crop producers> > > agriculture, 63,978 (14%) in
> Service, Shop & Market Sales; 13% in> > > crafts and related trade, 10%
> elementary occupation(whatever that is),> > > 3% professionals, 6% clerks,
> technicials and associate professionals.> > > With the government all but
> abandoned buying groundnuts, you wonder how> > > many of the 215,592 would
> stay on the land. And if they do not would be> > > re-trained under the new
> partnership to promote social and professional> > > cohesion (whatever that
> is)?> > >> > > The truth is, someone must be kidding to believe that a 1
> million Euro> > > skill center will check this "illegal migration". The new
> partnership if> > > anything is the latest in this global outsourcing
> project. In effect> > > lets pay the Gambian government one million Euros to
> police our border> > > for us. While the partnership may help Spain cater
> for her citizens,> > > what does it leave the Gambian people? It would help
> to know that about> > > 665,000 (48%) of the total population are between 10
> and 34 years old.> > > If the government is to succeed, it must present a
> convincing case that> > > it is not in effect and agent of the Spanish
> border police. And that it> > > as the people's representative is
> representing their interest by> > > accepting 1 million Euro for closing the
> border.> > >> > > Failure to present a convincing case could leave a very
> significant> > > proportion of the population feeling deprived of their only
> opportunity> > > to a better life. Like a desperate herd breaking into a
> neigbor's> > > garden, it should not surprise us to see desperate citizens
> doing> > > desperate things to survive.> > >> > >> > > Malanding Jaiteh> >
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Gambia: Curbing Illegal Migration> > >> > >> > >
> The Daily Observer (Banjul)> > >> > > 10 August 2007> > > Posted to the web
> 13 August 2007> > >> > > The Gambia and Spain, following the June 2007 Joint
> Committee Plan,> > > agreed yesterday to strengthen the partnership
> agreement in order to> > > check illegal immigration of minors, and to
> promote the social and> > > professional cohesion of this category.> > >> >
> > By financing 1M Euros Skills Training Centre, where young Gambians will> >
> > receive and venture into several activities (agriculture, carpentry,> > >
> fishing, construction, electricity), it calls for the setting up of a> > >
> permanent mechanism, aimed at curbing illegal immigration through> > >
> prevention, social-pedagogical and formation measures.> > >> > > It
> recommends also that when young Gambians are well-trained, they will> > >
> notably be exposed to the dangers posed by illegal migration.> > >
> Consequently, they would act legally to Spain or other places.> > >> > > As
> the Gambian community in Spain already attained the level of 20,000> > >
> migrants, the way forward lies on the necessity to move towards a real> > >
> showdown over illegal migration.> > >> > > Even if the issue exposes a deep
> and bitter rift within the public> > > opinion, there is a need to sensitise
> people on the dangers relating to> > > illegal migration.> > >> > >> > >> >
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