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fatou camara <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Joe,
No you are not jumping all over me.
I understand your points and it's unfortunate that all this things happen. I
hope one day we will get answers either from the president or those
responsible.


>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again
>Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 23:23:05 +0000
>
>Fatou, thanks for you clarification.  All things equal, your comparison
>between Jammeh's statement and the State Department's is valid and
>reasonable.  However, when you take Jammeh's statement and backtrack to the
>six feet deep threats, the student massacre, the summary killings with no
>explanations to date, the arrests and kidnappings with no trace of the
>victims for weeks and sometimes months, you cannot help but wonder what he
>might or might not do when he is uncomfortable for whatever reason.  Had
>Gambians not experienced killings with Jammeh, I don't think any would
>loose
>sleep with his utterances.  He may not kill 20,000 in his staged coup
>attempts, but two here, five there, adds up over time.  Is it normal for
>any
>responsible leader to talk in terms of killing 20,000 if he had to do it?
>As both of know, there is no security threat in The Gambia, but Jammeh and
>Secret Service thugs.  In the example you gave of the State Department, we
>all can link the cause and effect.  However, in the case of Yaya, Gambians
>only see the effect with no reasonable explanations for the cause.  I hope
>you do not take it that I'm jumping all over you.  My comments are made in
>the spirit of a healthy dialogue.  Let me know your thoughts.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe Sambou
>
>
>>From: fatou camara <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again
>>Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:39:00 -0500
>>
>>I hate writing on Gambia L especially when it comes to politics and about
>>President Jammeh.The reason is a lot of people on this Forum jump into
>>conclusion too soon and start judging people when they don't even know
>>what
>>they trying to say.This is one thing we all should try to avoid and
>>communicate as matured people.
>>
>>When the president says that if he has to kill 20,000 people to make sure
>>that 1million people stay safe he will happily  do it,does not mean that
>>he
>>is going to kill 20,000 people.This is the same statement the American
>>government made about terrorists hijacking their planes.That they will
>>rather shoot at the plane and kill all the passengers  than let it hit a
>>place where it can kill Thousands.
>>Am just trying to make this clear and thats it.
>>Fatu Rone.
>>
>>
>>>From: "Movement for restoration of democracy in Gambia [NY]"
>>><[log in to unmask]>
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>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again
>>>Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:31:28 EST
>>>
>>>Culled from the Point:
>>>
>>>. President! Do Not Kill Anybody
>>>
>>>“Remember if I have to kill 20,000 Gambians to make sure that 1 million
>>>live
>>>in peace, I will happily do it. Because that is my responsibility; to
>>>make
>>>sure the majority of Gambians live in peace.” The above statement is
>>>attributed to President Jammeh. When we read it, shivers ran through our
>>>spine because the statement is a dangerous one. What? Kill 20,000
>>>Gambians?
>>>No! This is unbelievable! Is this your intention, Mr. President or were
>>>you
>>>just ‘Open Calling’? If it was an ‘Open Call’, it was an
>>>expensive
>>>one.
>>>
>>>Why didn’t GRTS show us the video recording of your intervention to
>>>allow
>>>us
>>>read in your face whether you were making a firm promise or ‘Open
>>>Calling’?
>>>Even if we saw your face we wouldn’t have been able to clearly read
>>>your
>>>intention anyway. Now, let’s assume that you were really serious. Mr.
>>>President, how can someone who brags that he took over the country
>>>without
>>>a
>>>chicken being slaughtered tell us now that he is ready to take the lives
>>>of
>>>20,000 people? Your argument is that you want the others to live in
>>>peace.
>>>But how can 20,000 die and the others live in peace.
>>>
>>>That figure cannot be correct when checked against the extended family
>>>system
>>>we have here. The 20,000 will have to be multiplied by 10 and that gives
>>>you
>>>200,000 people and in some cases that figure should be multiplied by 12
>>>or
>>>14. So, is this an ‘Open Call’? Mr. President, your government should
>>>ensure
>>>that peace prevails by leading the country towards the path of
>>>development
>>>taking full cognisance of both the diversity of the people and our quest
>>>for
>>>the common good. Differences are great because they stimulate us to reach
>>>new
>>>frontiers in our resolve to bring out the best in our humanity. Mr.
>>>President! Do not kill any Gambian! “Thou Shall Not Kill” The Bible
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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