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Lamin Ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
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Kebba Dampha,
Whether you are the same Sam Sarr, Ebou Colley and Kujabi, please take a
deep breath. Brother you are blowing out of proportion. Why do you have to
feel so negatively emotional about this whole Chonga thing? Or are you
Chongan too am not even sure.
Joe Sambou made a very honest contribution here, and just because he
disagrees with you on this one does not mean that he or any one else does
not want to join your sturggle. Take your way and let someone take their's
is no way. Wake up and know that u are not the only Gambian here.
Brother, you are becoming a dictator and helped by pen-pals like Saikou
Mballow and follow-me Hamjatta. Let us be real and face the reality.
I close on this issue.

Lamin Ceesay.


>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
>Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:40:29 -0400
>
>Joe, you see, these are the kinds of things that sickens me at times. You
>opened your posting by saying that you  do not want to be dragged into the
>mud. What are you trying to insinuate here? Where did this mudslinging come
>from? Who came here and start talking about people's personal lives and
>their drinking habits? Who was trying to portray Chongan as a loose-canon
>that goes around assaulting people? And you turn around and pretend that I
>was responsible for taking you to the gutter. AS I told you yesterday, it
>was your own choice to say what you said to Chongan. Stick to your guns.
>You should have counseled yourself a long time ago that we have a bigger
>problem back home staring at us. Had you convinced yourself of that when it
>mattered, you would not have jumped on Chongan the way you did or support
>ous Ngum in his despicable assault on Chongan. Instead, you would be
>talking
>about the crimes of Yankuba Touray, who for the first time was pinned with
>Human Rights violations.
>As I said, say whatever you want about Chongan. But for Heaven's sake, let
>it be the truth. When you also say that Yaya and his cohorts are our bigger
>problem, also mean what you are saying. Don't say that in one sentence and
>in the other you go around attacking people that want to help get rid of
>Yaya; especially when those attacks add nothing to the struggle. Now if you
>prove that Chongan is a Human Rights violator, how would that help us? On
>the other hand, we in this struggle should realize that we cannot have our
>cake and eat it. We cannot expect these people to come out and try to help
>while we cherish every opportunity to try and put them down. Some people
>can
>take that, but others will not bother if they know such treatment awaits
>them when they want to join the struggle. Now I hope people are beginning
>to
>realize why certain soldiers are relunctant to join us. Most of these
>people
>have been forced to Yaya's camp or been made indifferent to the plight of
>our people. Why? Because of these types of unjustified attacks.
>As Mballow said and I tried to explain the other day, the torture narrated
>by Chongan and Ebou Colly can NEVER be pinned on Chongan. Baabaa Jobe was
>incarcerated for a 'crime' somewhat analogous to the 'crime' Chongan was
>accused of. At that time, Chongan was among the five most powerful Police
>Officers in the country. Baabaa Jobe was kept opposite where Chongan lived.
>Have you ever heard Baabaa Jobe accuse Chongan of torture? Now, Chongan did
>some things that no one is proud of. Is it appropriate to bring that up at
>this stage and discourage the man from joining the struggle; especially
>when
>the unsubstantiated allegations against him are in no way comparable to the
>horrendous torture he was put under?
>You are right I have no monopoly to this struggle. What made you even say
>that, I do NOT know. I have my own views about what I want to do. I
>doggedly
>follow that. Others are free to follow their own agenda. You can do
>whatever
>you want regarding this struggle. If I cannot support you, I leave you
>alone. I will NOT try to put you down.
>I just hope from this exchange people now understand why certain people are
>reluctant to join the struggle. This kind of behavior will NOT deter me,
>but
>it can deter many. I shall continue to defend Chongan and will challenge
>anyone that would want to peddle lies that Chongan is worse than Yankuba
>Touray or committed more atrocities than these vermin. I do NOT undermine
>people I know are genuinely trying to help.
>KB
>
>
>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
>>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:02:30 -0000
>>
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