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saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]>
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Mr.Ceesay,
          i are not here to joke.What do you mean by
Dampha becoming a dictator and he is being help by
myself and Hamjatta?Do you mean to tell me that i
shouldn't speak my mind.
Saihou.

--- Lamin Ceesay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Kebba Dampha,
> Whether you are the same Sam Sarr, Ebou Colley and
> Kujabi, please take a
> deep breath. Brother you are blowing out of
> proportion. Why do you have to
> feel so negatively emotional about this whole Chonga
> thing? Or are you
> Chongan too am not even sure.
> Joe Sambou made a very honest contribution here, and
> just because he
> disagrees with you on this one does not mean that he
> or any one else does
> not want to join your sturggle. Take your way and
> let someone take their's
> is no way. Wake up and know that u are not the only
> Gambian here.
> Brother, you are becoming a dictator and helped by
> pen-pals like Saikou
> Mballow and follow-me Hamjatta. Let us be real and
> face the reality.
> I close on this issue.
>
> Lamin Ceesay.
>
>
> >From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
> >Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:40:29 -0400
> >
> >Joe, you see, these are the kinds of things that
> sickens me at times. You
> >opened your posting by saying that you  do not want
> to be dragged into the
> >mud. What are you trying to insinuate here? Where
> did this mudslinging come
> >from? Who came here and start talking about
> people's personal lives and
> >their drinking habits? Who was trying to portray
> Chongan as a loose-canon
> >that goes around assaulting people? And you turn
> around and pretend that I
> >was responsible for taking you to the gutter. AS I
> told you yesterday, it
> >was your own choice to say what you said to
> Chongan. Stick to your guns.
> >You should have counseled yourself a long time ago
> that we have a bigger
> >problem back home staring at us. Had you convinced
> yourself of that when it
> >mattered, you would not have jumped on Chongan the
> way you did or support
> >ous Ngum in his despicable assault on Chongan.
> Instead, you would be
> >talking
> >about the crimes of Yankuba Touray, who for the
> first time was pinned with
> >Human Rights violations.
> >As I said, say whatever you want about Chongan. But
> for Heaven's sake, let
> >it be the truth. When you also say that Yaya and
> his cohorts are our bigger
> >problem, also mean what you are saying. Don't say
> that in one sentence and
> >in the other you go around attacking people that
> want to help get rid of
> >Yaya; especially when those attacks add nothing to
> the struggle. Now if you
> >prove that Chongan is a Human Rights violator, how
> would that help us? On
> >the other hand, we in this struggle should realize
> that we cannot have our
> >cake and eat it. We cannot expect these people to
> come out and try to help
> >while we cherish every opportunity to try and put
> them down. Some people
> >can
> >take that, but others will not bother if they know
> such treatment awaits
> >them when they want to join the struggle. Now I
> hope people are beginning
> >to
> >realize why certain soldiers are relunctant to join
> us. Most of these
> >people
> >have been forced to Yaya's camp or been made
> indifferent to the plight of
> >our people. Why? Because of these types of
> unjustified attacks.
> >As Mballow said and I tried to explain the other
> day, the torture narrated
> >by Chongan and Ebou Colly can NEVER be pinned on
> Chongan. Baabaa Jobe was
> >incarcerated for a 'crime' somewhat analogous to
> the 'crime' Chongan was
> >accused of. At that time, Chongan was among the
> five most powerful Police
> >Officers in the country. Baabaa Jobe was kept
> opposite where Chongan lived.
> >Have you ever heard Baabaa Jobe accuse Chongan of
> torture? Now, Chongan did
> >some things that no one is proud of. Is it
> appropriate to bring that up at
> >this stage and discourage the man from joining the
> struggle; especially
> >when
> >the unsubstantiated allegations against him are in
> no way comparable to the
> >horrendous torture he was put under?
> >You are right I have no monopoly to this struggle.
> What made you even say
> >that, I do NOT know. I have my own views about what
> I want to do. I
> >doggedly
> >follow that. Others are free to follow their own
> agenda. You can do
> >whatever
> >you want regarding this struggle. If I cannot
> support you, I leave you
> >alone. I will NOT try to put you down.
> >I just hope from this exchange people now
> understand why certain people are
> >reluctant to join the struggle. This kind of
> behavior will NOT deter me,
> >but
> >it can deter many. I shall continue to defend
> Chongan and will challenge
> >anyone that would want to peddle lies that Chongan
> is worse than Yankuba
> >Touray or committed more atrocities than these
> vermin. I do NOT undermine
> >people I know are genuinely trying to help.
> >KB
> >
> >
> >>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: WHAT HAPPEN TO US AT RIP.
> >>Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:02:30 -0000
> >>
> >
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