Pasamba,
 
Thank you. I was about to correct this fallacy but you beat me to it. It is  
unfortunate that some people have resorted to spreading downright  misleading 
and false information while still maintaining that they have the  interest of 
the country at heart.
 
I spoke with Halifa a short while ago and the nomination process has taken  
place and now the Gambian people will have to determine whether they will vote  
for real progress and shed the culture of cronyism once and for all or 
whether  they want to continue the culture of perpetuation of self  interest of one 
group or another at the expense of the Nation as  a whole.
 
This is a critical juncture for our people and they must be alert and  
clear-headed to make sure that they do not give in to false and misleading  
information or fall victim to cheap bribery which may buy them a meal for a  few days 
or a month but which will ultimately return them to the horror  of daily fear, 
violence and uncertainty that they and their families will  face under 
another APRC term of office or if they choose to vote for those whose  agenda is 
clearly one of self interest above that of the people in their hour of  need.
 
Forward with those who have the interest of all Gambian at heart and  who 
will work to achieve that wonderful dream for each and everyone of us  regardless 
of tribal, ethnic or religious affiliation, and down with  fallacy and self 
interest at the expense of our long suffering people. It  si most evident by 
now that the truth can never be disguised or  sullied.
 
FORWARD WITH NADD FOR A BRIGHT FUTURE FOR ALL GAMBIANS!!
 
Jabou Joh
 
In a message dated 8/28/2006 11:50:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Mr.  Conteh,
The assertion made here is a fallacy. There is no provision  in the 
constitution requiring members of parliament to resign their seats  inorder to be able 
to run for the presidency, as you put it. Halifa Sallah has  been nominated as 
NADD's flagbearer and it would be left to the electorate to  determine who is 
best to run the affairs of the nation. the choices are as  clear as day. On 
another note, if Ousainou Darboe runs, will the  opposition?

"It is apparent that sitting members of  the house cannot run
for president, until they resign their seats.   Since tomorrow is the 
deciding day for Halifah to consider, he deserves  the ultimate right
to choose whatever he wants.  If he resigns and  runs, will the 
opposition win?  I don't think so."

Pasamba Jow




Jassey Conteh  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mr. Kujabi:

I concur  with your assertion. It is frightening that it is 
less than 4 weeks before  we know our faith in The Gambia.
Regardless of our differences, it is  integral that we assess
our opportunities and conclude with good reasoning  the eventual
outcome of the Presidential election. If the trend continues  and 
we cannot come together, I am afraid the dictator will win.

One  consolation may be the fact that the dictator has pull another
trick. It is  apparent that sitting members of the house cannot run
for president, until  they resign their seats. Since tomorrow is the 
deciding day for Halifah to  consider, he deserves the ultimate right
to choose whatever he wants. If he  resigns and runs, will the 
opposition win? I don't think so.

After  many years of talk, we have made a mess to a point that we have
given the  enemy leverage to decide our faith. It is highly unrealistic to 
have
two  opposition parties running against a repressive government. As much as
I  would like to see a yahya-less Gambia, our chances are slipping away by  
every
second because of our indecision. Most of us on Gambia L will not  vote, 
but some of us have negatively impacted our chances of winning.  Tribal 
politics 
and open hatred against Darboe, Hamat and their respective  tribes should be 
condemned by every Gambian.

It is so  sad.

Naphiyo,
Comrade Jassey-Conteh

-----Original  Message-----
>From: "Pa.Saikou Kujabi" 

>Sent: Aug 26, 2006  3:13 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: RE; HALIFA''S  ATTACK DOGS
>
>I have read the inept reactions from some  Halifa
>attack dogs in protest to my article published  on
>Gambia-L, Allgambian.net, and the Freedom  Newspaper.
>
>I would like to take up Mr. Muhammed. L. Touray  first.
> Mr. Touray made the waters even muddier by claiming
>that  "I hate Halifa, that Halifa saw the out come of a
>"NO VOTE and defended  the Draft Constitution by
>propagandizing for a "Yes Vote" because the  junta
>wanted to stay for as long as it was possible, that
>the  1997 constitution was better than the 1970
>Republican constitution,  that until it was recently
>ammended, the 1997 constitution had a term  limit
>provision for the office of the presidency, and
>provisions  that promote democracy, rule of law, and
>freedom".  
>
>First of all Mr. Touray, UDP did not campaign for a  NO
>VOTE because it simply did not exist then. You may
>want to  know for your political orientation that UDP
>came to being only  fourteen days before the 1996
>presidential elections. You may also want  to know
>that despite PDOIS been uninterruptedly existing  for
>fifteen years then, UDP pulled over a hundred and
>forty  thousand votes, while PDOIS ended up with less
>than twenty  thousand.
>
>By all indications, Mr.Touray, you don't get it  just
>as Halifa always got it wrong. As I said in my  last
>article, only Halifa failed to understand that Yaya
>Jammeh  was determined to stay way beyond the
>Transition period. Not after on  or about November
>24Th 1994 when he announced the Junta's Four  year
>transition programs at the Independence Stadium in
>Bakau.  Only Halifa and his cohorts could not read
>Yaya Jammeh's lips. Besides,  Muhammed, Yaya Jammeh
>and his gang of criminals have always said in  no
>technical terms that they will never hand over power
>to no  one before they completed their development
>programs. Every sensible  Gambian knew that it was
>humanly impossible that the junta's programs  could not
>have been implemented within two years. If  Halifa
>could not read Yaya Jammeh's lips, who Else's can  he
>read? You will also agree with me that by the time
>the Draft  constitution was being put together Yaya was
>already condemning those  who opposed the coup,
>emphasizing strongly that he had to put his life  on
>the line to overthrow the PPP government, and
>therefore  whoever wanted to rule The Gambia must also
>do the same. I don't know  what better way or how many
>more times could Yaya have said these  statements
>before Halifa could understand. Perhaps Halifa  knew
>that all the existing parties and politicians were
>going to  be baned, thus opening the doors of the State
>House wide open for a  PDOIS leadership. 
>
>I totally disagree with you on your  assertion that the
>1997 constitution is by far better than the  1970
>Republican constitution because it has provisions for
>rule  of law, freedom, accountability, etc, etc. Mr.
>Touray, the 1970  Republican Constitution also had
>provisions that guaranteed the rule of  law, democracy,
>freedom of movement, freedom of speech, freedom  of
>association,etc. You may want to know that it is one
>of those  provisions that guaranteed PDOIS's coming to
>being as a political  party. It is embarrassing to
>realize that you are not even aware that  the
>two-five-year term limit for the office of the
>president was  never in the 1997 constitution. It was
>the original draft constitution  that was presented to
>Provisional Ruling Council by the  National
>Consultative Committee(NCC) that had the two
>Five-Year-  term limit, forty year age qualification, 
>citizenship qualification,  among other important
>clauses. In addition to the deliberate ommission  of
>the two five year term limit for the presidency, the
>junta  also omitted the forty year age limit to run for
>president and replaced  it with a sixty five year age
>limit. I have no doubt that you also  don't know that
>the junta has indemnified themselves in this  1997
>constitution. Muhammed, the omission of the two five
>year  term limit for the presidency alone was a genuine
>cause for every true  and sane Gambian to reject the
>constitution in its totality. I hope you  will agree
>with me that a term limit would have taken care of  the
>troubles we are facing today, because would have long
>gone  by now. This most important provision would
>have saved many lives,  including those who were so
>mysteriously murdered recently for their  alleged
>involvement in the alleged coup plot. We as  Gambians
>would have had the opportunity to hold the  junta
>accountable for their actions during the two  year
>transition period. This would have been the first
>execution  of the checks and balances that you
>ignorantly talked about in the 1997  constitution. 
>Your argument, which is a direct quotation from  Halifa
>that "he supported the constitution, but that it is
>the  same constitution that Ousainou Darboe rely on to
>argue cases in court"  is utter nonesense. This
>argument has certainly failed the test of  common
>sense. As a Lawyer, it is not Ousainou's job to
>ammend  the constitution. To the contrary, it is
>Halifa's job to introduce a  bill on the floor of the
>House and seek an amendment of these abnoxious  clauses
>that so badly affects our lives. Halifa is the one
>who  has that privilege as a member of Parliament. 
>That is what Halifa gets  paid for by you and I. How
>can Ousainou alone effect an amendment to  the
>constitution or protest by not going to court because
>there  are clauses that are not acceptable to the
>people. It took a whole  nation to ratify this bad
>constitution through the help of your flag  bearer-
>Sallah's aggressive campaign across the country,
>along  side with the July 22nd Movement, commissioners,
>Seyfolu, and  Alkalolus.
>
>You and your colleagues in NEW PDOIS(NAAD)  simlpy
>cannot distinguish truth from fictions. The MOU that
>you  keep referring to is just a paper that was signed
>by the parties  concerned. The most important thing
>about that paper is to follow and  complete all the
>process that was clearly outlined in it, otherwise  it
>cannot be regarded as legitimate. You just
>contradicted  yourself by complaining that Yaya Jammeh
>constantly flouts the  provisions of the very
>constitution that he tailor made. Won't  you
>understand from now on that words on a piece of paper
>cannot  mean anything until all the stipulations
>therein are followed sincerely  to the latter without
>fear or favor. That is what lacked in the  execution
>of the NAAD flag bearer selection process.  The
>conspiracy back fired and the traitors shot themselves
>in  the foot, which eventually lead them all to fall
>deep into the ditch.  Halifa has been falsely crying
>wolf for the past twenty five years, and  now he faces
>a real threat from a wolf, but there is no one to  come
>to his aid. Leadership is about telling the truth
>even if  it will cost you your life, job, friends or
>and sympathizers.  
>
>Mr. Touray, your explanation about the registration  of
>NAAD as an Alliance as instead of a political party
>was yet  another indication of your lack of
>information, even though you claim  to be current on
>the daily political issues in The Gambia. The  then
>NAAD Executive was advised by Ousainou Darboe about
>the  consequences of registering NAAD as a party. Your
>jack of all trade,  Halifa and his cohorts, out of
>arrogance insisted against Ousainou's  advise that they
>should not register NAAD because there was a  potential
>danger. Lawyer Darboe further advised them not to
>have  the serving Members of Parliament append their
>signatures on the MOU,  but the !!!chief clerk,
>political scientist, and prominent Lawyer  Sallah!!!
>defied Ousainou's caution. What did it cost us  when
>the Clerk of the House declared their seats vacant
>while  the delegation was in U.S? Were we not forced
>into a by-election which  cost the opposition a hell
>lot of money. Did any of you NAAD drum  beaters raise
>any questions? Did you find out who led us into  that
>mess? In a Town Hall meeting in New York with the
>then NAAD  delegation from The Gambia, I took up this
>matter with Halifa. I asked  him how come they over
>sighted the clause in the constitution  that
>effectively cost them their seats, considering the
>fact  that they have amongst their midst a prominent
>Lawyer and formidable  politician in the name of
>Ousainou Darboe, and also taking into account  their
>individual experiences and knowledge about
>constitutional  matters. This is what Halifa had to
>say "When we wanted to register  NAAD we came to
>realize that there was loop hole about registering  it
>as a political party, but as an experiment, we just
>took the  chance hoping that the government does not
>notice it. In the process,  he continued, the IEC
>registered it as a political party instead of  an
>Alliance which in the government's interpretation
>meant that  we have switched our allegiance from our
>original political parties".  He went further to
>disclose that their Lawyer (Ousainou)argued in  court
>that NAAD did not intend to register a party but
>instead  an Alliance. But the presiding judge ruled in
>favor of the government".  Now if I may ask you a
>question Muhammed, can you tell me what  your
>conclusion is by Halifa's own explanation? Ousainou
>Darboe  is one of the toppest Lawyers in The Gambia.
>Besides being the most  popular and one of the only two
>credible and capable politicians in The  Gambia, 
>Ousainou is also one of the topest Lawyers who is
>very,  very, very familiar with the Laws of The Gambia,
>especially those that  govern the electoral system. 
>Again if it were not Halifa's arrogant we  would have
>avoided that by-election which ultimately cost  Hamat
>Bah his Saloum Parliamentary seat. You will also
>recall  that before the birth of NAAD, Hamat had been
>comfortably elected twice  to the National Assembly,
>where he proved himself way beyond Halifa and  Seedia. 
>A word is enough. Go figure out who hate Halifa  Mr.
>Touray. Not me. All that I say here and elsewhere
>are solid  facts that are too hard for minds like yours
>to  absorb.
>
>Let me now turn on to Pa. Morro Jallow, a  Halifa
>attack dog who does not know which way the wind  blows
>around him. You also demonstrated clearly your  word
>deficiency for a healthy and objective debate. First
>and  foremost, I thank you for not loving me. I am
>not a gay, and am not  interested in joining your gay
>club. Thank you.  
>
>Secondly, I would like to assure you and all  the
>readers of this article that I will never reduce
>myself to  your level by calling you names that are not
>appropriate in this forum.  I know better than that,
>and I was not at all taken by surprise for the  harsh
>words and nasty names you called me. I expected that,
>and  I knew there were the Muhammed Tourays, Caw. Demba
>Baldehs, and of  course the Pa. Morro Jallows out there
>willing to defend the  indefensible Sallah. I will
>never get mad at you Pa. "Talibeh" for two  good
>reasons: one, you are my "Machudo", and two, I know
>already  know your level of maturity both politically
>and socially, which gave  me a good guideline in
>dealing with an individual like you including a  proper
>choice of language. 
>
>Just like all the NEW  PDOIS(NAAD) supporters, you have
>also surfaced in an ocean of  ineptitude and deception
>which is the hall mark of being a NEW  PDOIS(NAAD) fan.
> You claimed in your article that APRC trashed  UDP/NRP
>Alliance in Kafuta in the last by-election. You
>should  have done your home work properly Mr. Jallow. 
>UDP/NRP had the largest  votes casted in Kafuta than
>APRC and NEW PDOIS(NAAD)combined. You also  alleged
>that I heard from other sources that Halifa  Sallah
>campaigned single handed for the adoption of the  Draft
>constitution. Pa. Morro, I did not hear this from
>anyone,  I was in The Gambia when all these happened,
>and every informed Gambian  can testify to that, even
>Halifa did not deny these facts. Sorry, I  connot help
>you out of your word deficiency which truly  defines
>the type of home boy you are. 
>
>You also charged  in desperation that we UDP are
>murderes, that we murdered one Alieu  Njie of
>Basse(MHSRP), and that you had a word for Haruna
>Darboe.  Well, Mr. Jallow, the courts in The Gambia
>never convicted anyone for  the unfortunate death of
>Alieu. We in UDP/NRP love every Gambian  regardless of
>their sex, tribe, religion, or political  affiliation,
>but only those whose five common senses fit  together
>well can understand that. We are not interested  in
>befriending arrogant and selfish traitors. 
>
>You  described Hamat Bah as an old hotel bedroom
>Manager who suddenly became  an MP. I can comfortably
>say that you have no respect for those hard  working
>men and women in our Hotels who work out their swet  to
>put food on the table, cloth and send their kids to
>school.  Hotel job is as decent and skillful as any
>other job. Therefore,  provoking Hamat with that kind
>of crap does not just make any sense at  all. I
>wonder what your job is Morro. One thing abundantly
>clear  though, is that Hamat Bah is a rising star in
>The Gambian political  arena, and he has proven himself
>to be the most effective member of  Parliament time and
>time again. Halifa, and Seedia are rarely heard of  in
>the Parliament. As a matter of fact, your Halifa can
>only be  remembered for his leadership ambition in the
>Parliament. A Minority  Leader, an AU Parliamentarian,
>Head of the Au Parliamentary Committee  responsible for
>the Dafur crises, and now a NEW  PDOIS(NAAD)
>presidential candidate, so that he can go back  to
>Southern Africa or elsewhere and invite the the Radio
>and  Television search cameras once again. I cannot
>imagine how Halifa can  be in charge of puting out the
>Dafur fire while ignoring the fire that  he set off in
>his own country with his own hands. I wish I  had
>enough time to orientate you better on political
>issues in  The Gambia. Do not fool yourself by
>pretending that you know me. If you  do, you would
>have known that I am not bringing up these facts  just
>because I am a name caller or disrespect for Halifa. 
>I was  on the ground when all thses events took place,
>and for me there are no  short cuts in telling the
>truth. I tell it exactly as it is, regardless  of what
>anybody things about me.
>
>With regards to your  comments about Haruna Darboe,
>"Fangna Morri", I can assure you that  Haruna is not
>your match just as Ousainou Darboe and Hamat are  not
>Halifa's match. Haruna's intelligence and decency  are
>unquestionable. Certainly not by your narrow mind,
>and you  better belief that. Haruna will never go down
>with you on this path..  
>
>Folks, may I ask your indugience to pull the plug  on
>Demba Baldeh, another Halifa thin head attack dog. 
>Demba,  you described me as one of the ill informed and
>desperate Pseudo old  hand UDP/NRP supporters who
>lacks information about the current  political events
>in The Gambia. 
>
> You seem to be close  to Halifa and the events that
>surround him, more than anyone else. I  can imagine
>why you almost had a heart attack when you read  my
>article. Life would still go on had you fallen dead. 
>You  ignorantly muddied the waters as you desperately 
>tried to defend the  indefensible Sallah. Demba, if
>you are as informed as you claimed to  be, and as newly
>educated a man who understands every English word  that
>Halifa uttered, how come you did not know that Halifa
>and  Seedia's arrests happened in only a couple of days
>after the July 22ND  coup-DE-tat in 1994 and not in
>1995 as you claimed. You also claimed  that I am ill
>informed about the political events in the Gambia.  
>Well, "Maudo Demba" you should have named me at least
>one or  more events that are currently going on in The
>Gambia that you think I  am not aware of. You clearly
>don't know why Yaya Jammeh sent Hamat, Oj,  Halifa and
>Waa to jail. It was not at all about the open  letter
>Halifa wrote on behalf of NAAD. It was an exercise  of
>power that Yaya has always been proud of. Mr. Newly
>schooled,  didn't Yaya promise on National TV that he
>WILL GIVE THE OPPOSITION A  KORETEH "KORITEH GIFT"? 
>Didn't he say that before their arrests? Did  you not
>belief him? You must be out of your mind if you  would
>not have believed in Yaya's craziness. Yaya was
>determined  to send our brothers to jail anyway,
>regardless of how good or bad the  evidence were. I
>wonder what new school you attended Demba?  Meanwhile,
>you have made it abundantly clear that your  only
>influence about Halifa is the GOOD ENGLISH that he
>speaks.  No wonder why you just cannot connect the
>dots right. You don't measure  one's seriousness by
>the good English he or she speaks, rather, the  sense
>behind the good English. You must have been busy take
>note  of every English word that Halifa uttered at the
>Seattle meeting. I can  also imagine how you could be
>easily carried away by any GOOD ENGLISH  speaker, if
>you should sit on a decision making  table.
>
>Mr. new school, I am particularly disappointed  that
>with all your faithfulness and ambition for  Halifa
>presidency, you are not even aware that on the May  20,
>2006 Halifa made a usual irresponsible press  release
>regarding the Kombo East by-election in which  he
>cowardly pointed an accusing finger at me for  NEW
>PDOIS(NAAD)'s humiliating performance in that
>election. What  kind of English graduate are you
>"Machudo Jola"?. Do you want to tell  me that you can
>only understand Halifa's spoken English but  cannot
>read his writings. You questioned if I cannot
>understand  the English when I read Halifa's writings. 
>It is evident to every one  now that despite the fact
>that you are so close to Halifa, you still  cannot
>read his writings.!!What a shame on you "Caw Demba".  
>
>You alleged that "UDP has made blunders that will  lead
>it to committing political suicide, and that we have
>been  all over the map on the issue of unity, that
>first it was lack of  trust, second a mistake was made
>by agreeing to be equal when we are  not equal". 
>Demba, if ever UDP and NRP leaders have made any  good
>decisions, the withdrawing from NAAD was the best  they
>could have ever made under the circumstance, and if
>that is  what you consider to be a political suicide,
>then you dont know what  politics is. NAAD was never
>meant for Ousainou and Hamat,and no matter  who says
>what at what given time and place, Hamat and  Ousainou
>have the same view regarding now NEW  PDOIS(NAAD)Party.
>I know for fact that I personally can mentor you  in
>politics for the rest of your life and you will not
>get to  the tip of my finger. You should not worry
>about UDP/NRP committing  political suicide. In fact,

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