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Kejau,
Thats a very powerful nomination! As a member of a signatory party to the
Coalition, I am convinced that your contributions on these wed sites are of
relevance. Personally, I have no doubt that some of us are taking note of
the names that are being made mention of and that even though NADD should
adhere to a prudent process for nomination/s, the public input so far can be
of tremendous help. Therefore, in my personal capacity, I urge you all to
continue this process of "mentioning for possible nomination", names of
deserving Gambians. Your discussions constitute a healthy democratic culture
which should be fostered in "THE NEW GAMBIA" that is envisaged in the MOU
and will be spelt out in a NADD manifesto.
THE STRUGGLE CONTINUES!
Omar Joof.

>From: "Kejau Touray" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: [>-<] My Nominated Presidential Candidate for NADD:  Dr. Ebrima
>Samba Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 13:58:35 +0000
>
>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Kejau Touray"
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>
>Dr. Samba Hands Over to Dr. Sambo
>
>
>
>
>The Independent (Banjul)
>
>February 4, 2005
>Posted to the web February 4, 2005
>
>Banjul
>
>The outgoing WHO Regional Director for Africa, Dr Ebrahim Samba, handed
>over to his successor, Dr Luis Sambo at the weekend, and proceeded to his
>native Gambia on retirement.
>
>Dr Sambo begins his five-year term as Regional Director on 1 February.
>
>
>In a tribute to Dr Samba, Dr Sambo said, "I would like to recognize and
>thank you immensely for the work you have done in the WHO Regional Office
>and for the African Region as you pushed the frontiers of health for all
>Africans everywhere. You are leaving behind many tangible and measurable
>achievements."
>
>The new Regional Director praised his predecessor for his vision, courage,
>openness and pragmatism as well as his strong commitment to the eradication
>or elimination of such public health threats as river blindness, polio and
>female genital mutilation.
>
>Responding, Dr Samba thanked WHO for affording him the opportunity to serve
>his fellow Africans in various capacities for more than two decades, and
>pledged to continue to support the Organization in his new phase of life.
>
>Relevant Links
>
>West Africa
>International Organizations and Africa
>Gambia
>Health and Medicine
>
>
>
>"Indeed, I am hereby offering to provide, during my retirement, free,
>non-remunerative service through WHO to help promote public health in
>Africa," said Dr Samba who was designated Regional Director Emeritus by the
>54th session of the WHO Regional Committee for Africa.
>
>Dr Samba had served two terms of five years each as Regional Director, but
>his public health career nationally, regionally and internationally spanned
>more than 40 years.
>
>
>
>
>
>Kejau
>
>
>
>
>>From: "George Sarr" <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Subject: Re: [>-<] Coalition   Picks? NADD !!!!!!
>>Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 19:11:35 -0500 (EST)
>>
>>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "George Sarr"
>><[log in to unmask]> ]
>>
>>
>>Folks,
>>  What are you all debating about? Who will become president of The
>>Gambia, come
>>2006? L@@k, I want everybody to listen to me:-) Seriously, stop pulling
>>your hair.
>>You all are driving me crazy:-) . Why we always gotta complicate things? I
>>think
>>this discussion is marked by unbecoming levity. The 2006 Elections is NOT
>>a
>>presidential election for those of us concerned Gambians and friends of
>>The Gambia.
>>It is the PEOPLE'S ! election, ordinary people coming together during
>>extraordinary
>>times to making a difference. That's what the foundation of this
>>Alliance/Coalition
>>is built upon, and we must not loose sight of our aims and objectives.
>>Precisely
>>why I'm  completely flabbergasted that some of us are now entangled in
>>some debate
>>of who should be the Coalition's presidential candidate-elect, a complete
>>misnomer
>>in the present scheme of things. Why? Because simply put the aims and
>>objectives of
>>this alliance is NOT to elect but to EJECT a dictator who has caused us
>>all that we
>>value -liberty, freedom, independence, rule of law, the right to live you
>>name it.
>>So why are some of us even thinking about electing some other greedy
>>bastard and
>>leave things to chance! A Coalition is all that suffice and we've got!,
>>and if you
>>must insist, guess who will be our president? You guessed right. That
>>candidate you
>>already have, and you already know. That's right. NADD!   National
>>Alliance for
>>Democracy and Development WILL be our president! come 2006. It will
>>Dictator Yaya
>>Jammeh running against NADD. Once NADD assumes power, and the system is
>>changed for
>>good and the playing field leveled, we can then participate in free and
>>fair
>>elections in a true democracy. NADD it is, ladies and gents! When NADD
>>wins, we ALL
>>win. You wouldn't hear people say Kumba or Pateh won. Think about it, does
>>it make
>>any sense for presidential candidates to let go their ambitions and
>>differences, to
>>come together as ONE and make the ultimate sacrifice, only to have in
>>their place
>>some presidential candidate? I know your mind doesn't work that way too.
>>It makes
>>no sense. NADD For President!! KAPUT.
>>
>>NADD For President!!
>>George
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "adama roberts"
>> > <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I think the coalition should be open minded, regardless of gender,
>>tribe,  etc. in
>> > the selection process.
>> > The final  goal  to win the 2006 elections,  the presidential candidate
>>  could be
>> > a male or female regardless. I do not know Dr Touray but I strongly
>>disagreed
>> > with the statement that "she is a wrong candidate". Correct me if  am
>>wrong , the
>> > present vice-president of the Gambia is a female, well  respected and i
>>believe
>> > she is performing her duties. The process should be  very inclusive
>>regardless of
>> > gender or tribe , less us be vague.
>> > If the people who most folks wants to challenge Jammeh are not willing
>>to  take on
>> > him, so what??
>> > Every one is not interested in running for President, it is not a
>>smooth  ride at
>> > all.
>> > In this present time, women can do what men can do. Come on, is just my
>> > suggestion , i might be wrong , am open for further discussion. Am
>>gatheringing
>> > facts to defend my case if need be, hahaha
>> >
>> > Adama Roberts (Liha)
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: "Jawara Campus-talk" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>Subject: [>-<] "Dr. Touray is a wrong candidate"
>> >>Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:27:58 +0000
>> >>
>> >>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Jawara
>>Campus-talk"
>> >> <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I have to start by saying that i read with keen interest your analysis
>>of  the
>> >> formation of the newly formed opposition coalition, otherwise known as
>>  NADD. I
>> >> think it was   interesting, and a piece that requires some decent
>>debate on the
>> >> forum.  I have been reading the post for a long time, but  never have
>>i deem it
>> >> necessary to respond to any posting. May be i could  not respond
>>because i have
>> >> constatnly enjoyed  the past debates between  people that makes me
>>prefer to be
>> >> on the sideline than be on the cyber  pitch.  Not any more!
>> >>   As history makers, Gambian people all over the world should egage
>> >>ourselves in the way forward for the current coalition in order to give
>>  them the
>> >> strategy they need to survie within an already hostile nation with
>>itself.  we
>> >> should not, in my opinion, make a mistake of getting ourselves  a
>>leader for the
>> >> coalition who may not stand a chance against a
>> >>power-entreached leader like Dr. Yahya Jammeh.  This is what makes it
>>all  the
>> >> more important for me to give my thoughts and feelings, if necessary,
>>about your
>> >> analysis and to contribute towards any debate that regards the
>>coalition.
>> >>  Being moved by the masterclass sagacity of your analysis aside , i
>>have
>> >>found myself a suspicious figure about your choice of the right
>>political
>> >> cadidate for the opposition coalition.
>> >>  I dont know anything about Dr. Touray nor have i had the opportunity
>>to
>> >>meet her.  But from the things that i have read from her, regarding
>>gender
>> >> activities, i will no doubt agree that she is a woman of high calibre
>>who  needs
>> >> the Gambia in the future as the Gambia needs her. Her ability to
>>traslate modern
>> >> thoughts into ordinary languages has won her fame among  literate
>>Gambians and i
>> >> think she could do a good president if elected. But  Dr Touray would
>>not be
>> >> elected as the next Gambian president for two  obvious reasons, even
>>if we choose
>> >> to cast blind eyes on them as we search  for the right person-man or
>>woman.
>> >> Point number one, she is a woman.   Point number two she is a gender
>>activist.
>> >>   I have a pure, honest and true respect for all human beings not
>> >>withstanding one's class-racial, gender, ethnic, or political
>>backgrounds.   And
>> >> i need not forget to make it abundantly clear that i am not a male
>>chauvinist by
>> >> any degree.  Far from it. Rather i am a great beleiver of the  real
>>world who
>> >> beleive that history has thought mankind some leasons that  need not
>>be thrown
>> >> into historical dusbins, if we are to be good leaners.   One may
>>wonder why
>> >> America's cabinet has got less than thirty female  memders in their
>>entire
>> >> history over 200 years. One may ask why Madline  Albright become the
>>first female
>> >> Secreary of state for the United States.  One may wonder why despite
>>numerous
>> >> attempts to rule nations, few women  have made it to the helm of
>>political
>> >> myraids in the western world. These  are by no means accidental. They
>>are not
>> >> coincidents.  It is more because  people have choosen to stereotype
>>women all
>> >> through histroy, and despite  the absolute male clamour for equality,
>>there
>> >> remains a huge different  between people's choice of men and that of
>>women when
>> >> it comes to  leadership-presiential leadership in particular.
>>Politics, African
>> >> politics especially has got things which are missing in women.  To be
>>a
>> >> successful politican, especially in Africa, one must have trade the
>>profession
>> >> for a long time. One must be half-stupid, half-hostile,  outspoken in
>>the face of
>> >> hostilities and be a damn popular among the  electorates.  Few women
>>have these
>> >> traits in the Gambia!  In my opinion, i  think lack of these traits
>>and the
>> >> hidden stereotyping of women in the  public domain have prevented
>>women from
>> >> succeding in the political arena.   I am under no illusion to think
>>that the fact
>> >> that few women made it to the  top in pplitics means that Dr. Touray
>>may not win.
>> >> Not at all do i hold  that notion.  I think the second weakness of Dr.
>>Touray may
>> >> be the thing  that will drop the final buzzer on her selection to
>>represent us
>> >> against a  well-entrenched political party like the APRC.
>> >>  Most of us may sit on our tel-buttons to give our views about who
>>should
>> >>lead the country next, yet it is the Gambian people(people back home)
>>who  matter
>> >> at the end of the day.  They are the ones who shall cast their votes
>>and to get
>> >> their votes any opposition coalition must learn to give  alternatives
>>for the
>> >> current regimes.  Dr. Touray does not fit into that  category-and i
>>will tell you
>> >> why!
>> >>   It is acommon secret that even the literate Gambians abraod most of
>>the
>> >>time engage themselves in female genital mutilation. I learn this when
>>i  came to
>> >> the States two years ago.  That shows that despite the intrution of
>>modern
>> >> beleives, the majority of the Gambians beleive that our traditional
>>norms and
>> >> values should not be compromised for external beleives.  Mr  Cessay
>>said, that
>> >> person who should be selected  should be an "acknowledged  public
>>figure."  While
>> >> i agree that Dr Touray is a public figure, i beg to  differ that her
>>public
>> >> stature is appealing to the majority of the Gambians  who will be
>>going to the
>> >> polls in 2006.  I think her stand against FGM has  not done her any
>>favour from
>> >> the perspective of the Gambian women and she,  as well as any Gambian
>>who is
>> >> ready for change would pay a heavy price if  she is selected.  Yahya
>>Jammeh is
>> >> more popular among the elderly and women.
>> >>  Those who buy the APRC's political pancake are not the literate
>>Gambians.
>> >>They are not the young Gambians as FJC would want us to beleive.  Those
>>who  buy
>> >> APRC's propaganda are the elderly and the women who unfortunately
>>compromise the
>> >> bulk of both the illiterate pack of our nation as well as  the
>>majority of the
>> >> voters.  Come to think of it: an APRC campaign  labelling Dr. Touray
>>as an
>> >> anti-tradition.  Of course we all know that such  a message will no
>>doubt cast a
>> >> great shadow over her face and nothing, not  even a political miracle
>>can save us
>> >> from losing against Yahya Jammeh.
>> >>   If i am ask for the right person, i think two great people of our
>> >>country come to mind.  Dr Sedat Jobe and Musa Sillah. These are two men
>>who  had
>> >> shown, despite their errors under Jammeh, that they have the steel,
>>the
>> >> character, determination and will to stand in the face of
>>difficulties.   For Mr
>> >> Sillah he had shown that he is a career diplomat who did not allow
>>any influence
>> >> of Jammeh's fake intimidation to deviate him from his job.  More
>>importantly, the
>> >> fact that these two men have served under Jammeh, if  selected, that
>>will be a
>> >> political punch to the APRC.  And above all, these  two have proven to
>>us under
>> >> Jammeh that they are seassoned dimplomats and  determined people as
>>well. It is
>> >> left to the coalition members to decide  who shall lead at the end! I
>>surely hope
>> >> it is not anybody who
>> >>conspicueosely does not stand a chance, whatever the character of that
>>person.
>> >> THIS IS BECAUSE WE NEED A CHANGE AND TO MAKE A CHANGE WE NEED THE
>>RIGHT PERSON
>> >> TO STAND AGAINST YAHYA AND HIS PARTY!
>> >>  Haven said the above, i think it is important for this sissue to be
>>put
>> >>on a national debate which will enable the leadership of the coalition
>>to  make a
>> >> good assesment of the issue and possibly select a candidate that
>>stand a chance
>> >> to win, and eventually free us from the shackles of the  powerful
>>few...
>> >>While i anticipate this debate of who is the best to continue both of
>>the
>> >> cyberspace and at home- who mattered most, i remain open to more
>>discussions as
>> >> we look to the future.
>> >>    Thanks
>> >>
>> >>>From: "Ebrima Ceesay" <[log in to unmask]>
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>> >>>Subject: [>-<] Looking To The Future
>> >>>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:04:57 +0000
>> >>>
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