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Yero ,this is a good thing you engaging my fellow constituent ,the man with many names and the man who knows much .Mr Haruna masoud almutawakil Libyan Gambian business man .
   
  Thinking over his proposal whilst in lectures ,i started to feel that if ,Mr Masoud believes strongly that he can influence the decisions of those responsible for the continuous lingering of miss FJM's case then ,i add my voice to that .
  I don't know FJM but i did hear that she is a mother of two or three .Looking at  my own young siblings last night and being a man ,i feel FJM shouldn't be in that position .i may disagree with Mr Haruna's method of getting her free ,but to me now ,her freedom is an utmost necessity.
   
  How can Brother Haruna's proposal work ? and how will that influence the future actions of AJJ ? we can only speculate .
   
  here ,right now ,the situation is just like former British iron lady Margret Thacher saying ''we shall not deal with terrorist ''meaning Uncle Nelson Mandela .Should we standby haruna in his quest to get FJM free ? Haruna is our brother in the L and also in some other capacity .
   
  Mr Masoud ,if you feel strongly about FJM's situation then ,do as brother Yero suggested ,contact Fatou herself  first ,then see what she advice you to do on her behalf , if possible communicate that with us ,and then we can see what appropriate advice if any to give .
   
  I pray that THE Almighty guide your actions on this one and reward your intentions for THE FREEDOM OF A MOTHER AND AN ACTIVIST, LADY FATOU JAW MANNEH .

Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  
"My Brother Haruna," Yero.


Yessir.

"Thank you for your mild rejoinder." Yero.

You're most welcome. I hope we have yielded some further clarity in 
discernments.

"This is typical threading from none but you. Well, well, just like you see, 
dribbling this silly early morning keyboard that wify and all close friends 
are trying to have me quit. Getting addicted to this ‘silly’ keyboard, as if 
nothing else for fun. That’s my leisure right there. That’s my heroin, weed, 
soccer, TV, or better still ‘warga’ if you like." Yero.

I understand your anxieties. Addiction for naught is listlessness. I pray 
for your addictions for good and propriety. Are spectacles for the eye or the 
nose?(Shaky Shaky)

"Again, thanks for your in-depth analysis and explanation. Your attribution 
of PDOIS probably took me by surprise, but if only you mean I took too much 
from them," Yero.

I do not mean that. I meant there were similarities in value-added life. 
Only you will qualify the scope of osmosis. It will be presumptuous of me to 
attempt that.

"then I will humbly say yes, emphatically." Yero.

Very well.

"I believe they are great educators, and over time they showed consistency 
in it. I, being an admirer to Halifa, Sidia and Uncle Sam, probably cannot deny 
that I wasn’t original with the usage of the style ‘stagnant’," Yero.

I too admire Halifa, Uncle Sam, and Uncle Sidia. They have enormous value 
for Gambia. You stand to be of immense value to Gambia also. If not equal, 
perhaps more. That is the desire of the aforementioned gentlemen. You are however 
advised to refine your circumstance. You have shared that it is odious or 
unacceptable to insult one's parents. Yahya is someone's parent. You probably 
ought to qualify that position. And we'll talk some more.

"though in all honesty I was speaking me." Yero.

I understand. And me is resultant of creed, pedigree, experiences, desires, 
and vision.

"Perhaps I needed to explain further that Sam’s son was my best friend in 
High School and we grew around that Foroyya headquarter house with independence 
from their ‘engagements.’ In fact, we had our own association which was 
totally independent. Thanks to Njagga Sarr, the originator of that idea. But like 
Dr. Pinkney (formerly of the Colored Panthers), an elderly friend of mine 
said “Yero, words are tools for usage. Don’t be afraid to use them freely.” 
Yero.

I think you reminisce here. Much obliged. The quote is not valuable the way 
you presented it. Try: "words are only tools. Their yield depends in large 
measure on manner of their use". I know you want to scream "Freedom of speech 
and circumstance, but review your words often, especially where they could 
affect the life and health of other. You do not have limitless license to use 
words as you wish. If that were the case, you probably would not have made it 
here. You probably will have been living with the fish and awe at human speech 
and its value in gaping delirium.

"Less this much lesson, I do not intend to be guilty of plagiarism." Yero.


I am proud of you. Plagiarism is not good.

"I am not a PDOIS member," Yero.

Insignificant.

"but I agree with most if not all of their teachings. If you looking for 
PDOIS brothers, go get them. You know better who they are," Yero.

Insignificant.

"because some pieces I followed from archives indicated that you were one 
time a die-hard PDOIS." Yero.

I like PDOIS. I sympathised with their angst. PDOIS, like APRC, and UDP, and 
NRP, is a political party.

"So go Haruna PDOIS, go!" Yero.

Haruna Darbo. To the extent PDOIS trains on democracy, I will admire PDOIS. 
That does not have anything to do with my considerations for Halifa, Sam, 
Sidia, The African Child, Suntou, and JDAM.

"I was probably being harsh in my usage of ‘shady’ to those pals of yours 
you mentioned." Yero.

They were my classmates. I agreed that they seemed shady to me, whatever 
that means. The extent of my friendship with them and you is their reserve for 
commoner good.

"I can’t wait to hear your story as usual. You know me" Yero.

OK. Remind me in May '08. As I continue to know you. I welcome the prospect 
of knowing you.

"But then you said it too. So I was just giving you my humble advice on 
them. In fact that ‘Nkolu’ doesn’t listen to them." Yero.

I understand.

"Here is a man who swore he knows what is in peoples’ minds, and this he did 
openly as if he has some supernatural powers." Yero.

Aha!!

"You probably missed one of my threads “demystification of the myths”, didn’
t you?" Yero.

Yes. Indeed I missed that. I supposed you shared how you didn't believe what 
you just said or vice versa.

"I can’t wait to die me, believing in no force other than that of Allah, 
asza wa jalla. I pray for no test that will carry me away from it." Yero.

Aha!!!

"Coming back to our sister Fatou, and like I said earlier, it is good to 
surface her name always. Whatever meen! Free her, O God! Like the Bible would 
say “Why has thou forsaken me?” when it was alleged that Jesus Christ (Esa Ibn 
Mariyama) was put on the cross, so I too will say “Why has thou forsaken FJM?”
Yes, and all those names you mentioned too- “I have the additional interest 
of love for my fellow citizens Suntou, Yero, FJManneh, Yahya, Rambo, 
Kanyibaa, Kanyi, Tamsir Mbowe, Veep Ajaratou, and baboucarr Jatta.” Yero.

Movin on,

"I share concern equally, though the strength at hand dictates our 
capabilities." Yero.

Aha!! I recommend a book by Clifton and somebody I think Buckingham; Now 
Discover your strengths. Often hidden by our own selves.

"But yes, do what you are supposed to do. Please, do! I don’t know why won’
t you? It is certain that Jammeh wants someone to beg for forgiveness." Yero.

You still don't get it. If you say you think what I am doing is valuable, 
then you imply I engage in vainglorious beggary, then I miss the satire. What 
Jammeh wants and what you want may be two different things. Just bear that in 
mind.

"Either Fatou or someone on her behalf. Some mercy from father Yaya. With 
his grandbuba, with an angry smile, a Quran on the left hand together with the 
bead-rope, some jalang staff stick and a fang on the right hand, then he will 
open his can of worms and imaginary say “I told you. If you haven’t begged 
for mercy, I would have buried you seven feet deep. Let the ‘West’ go to 
hell. Let everyone go to hell. I am the great undefeatable chosen king of time. 
You either kiss my ass or you kiss my ass. Those are the only two options you 
have, “and then ‘off’ he goes to ‘Sindola dinkokono.’ " Yero.

You share your impressions of Yahya here. They have nothing to do with 
Freedom for FJManneh.

"Lastly, I call myself the little one, because that is. I do listen, but I 
know you know well I have an independent mind, so bound and entitled to that 
opinion." Yero.

The independent mind is grounded in reason and consideration of other. And 
it is not lifeless. Desideratum Mensa. Mensa, Mensae, Mensam.

"Should that mean not listening, then I have to find a way of opinionating 
while not disagreeing with you," Yero.

It is not important whether you agree with me or not Yero. Focus men.

"but alternatively stating my opinion." Yero.

Aha.

"Now, you have a good day! Little one," Yero. 


Thank you Sir. I'm tired anyway.

"Note: Kindly keep on the UN observations. Please do, as time permits you." 
Yero.

Haroun. Sorry you missed it. Masoud. That is real property to be mortgaged 
for consideration of other.MQDT. Wish me luck. Darbo. Al Mutawakkil. You like 
to talk don't you? 


















> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 02:53:29 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: 
Ma Yero;Re: How Gambia can set about achieving the Millennium Development 
Goals.> To: [log in to unmask]> > "My brother Haruna," Yero.> > Yes 
my good friend, how are you?> > "Passing through shady characters might as 
well jeopardize things." Yero.> > I believe you imply my choice of Jatta and 
Mbowe as interlocutors. I also > believe Jatta and Mbowe are shady characters. 
Even before they associated > themselves with Yahya. I know the two of them 
and Yahya knows the two of them. > Yahya does have a modicum of comfort with 
them regardless of what I or you think > of them. The idea here is to choose 
interlocutors that Yahya feels > comfortable with because it is important for 
Yahya to know that I will complete my end > of the bargain when he completes 
his end of the bargain. That is proper in > considerations. It is not as 
important for me to choose my favourite people as > it is for Yahya to consider me 
a reliable partner. I hope I make some sense > here Yero.> > "A donkey knows 
no negotiation, but the whip." Yero.> > This is a bit extreme and it wreaks 
of grandstanding. I advise you cease. > Besides, I do not have the luxury of 
such disposition. Lives and freedoms of > other are at risk. Further, if I 
thought Yahya was a donkey, I would not have > undertaken to share ideas with 
him. I think we should cease such gratuitous > animus. It serves no purpose. I 
am just as frustrated as you with Yahya but you > ought to be able to 
articulate your frustration and with propriety. > Name-calling is banter for the 
clueless. I'm sorry Yero, I had to give you some tough > love. I know you don't 
really believe this about Yahya but you're letting > your frustration get 
the better of you. I would have thought you would have > supported or 
encouraged me in this endeavour. I want you to know that FJManneh > thinks highly of 
Magistrate Jawo and all the other Judges in whose courtrooms > she appeared. 
She thinks the charges are too extreme to be adjudicable, and > she awaits 
yahya's better judgement to drop all charges without prejudice. And > I have 
another deal to make with Yahya if he yields to FJManneh's wishes. I > was gonna 
surprise Yahya with that so I will reserve it until I am able to > surprise 
him.> > "Until such a time when Gambians and their friends put it at the back 
of > their minds that we don't beg" Yero.> > I am not begging for anything. 
I seek trade of considerations for relief for > our fellow citizens. Full 
stop.> > "or compromize freedom and liberty," Yero.> > Compromise. I do not 
seek compromise of Freedom and Liberty. I share > perspectives and 
considerations in Freedom and Liberty, and on the behalf of my > fellow citizens who 
desire relief from wrongful arrest and detention.> > "then we are stagnant." 
Yero.> > Try original thought sometime and wean yourself of unintelligible > 
soundbites. That is too much PDOIS. And they are stagnant. Life is an exhilarating 
> paradigm for those who desire to live it.> > "You have to insist on it 
from any oppressor." Yero.> > This pre-supposes the existence of the oppressor. 
I think you have herded in > the desert too many times. Mirages are the scope 
of your visions Yero. How > about not accepting an oppressor in the first 
place before you have to insist > on inalienable freedoms and liberties?> > 
"The oppressor will never willingly give it up." Yero.> > Exactly. But Yahya 
will consider value for their yield. Value that folk like > you and my uncle 
Suntou attempt to obscure from Yahya.> > "Any of them, the minor one or the 
major one. It's nothing but 'shit' [ > excuse my french yaw.]" Yero.> > Think for 
a minute Yero. What would your venom yield you? What could it > possibly 
yield you? And whatever it yields you, how are you sure that that is > more 
valuable to your fellow citizen than considered wisdom? I must share with > you 
that you are still not the most frustrated or angry with Yahya. In fact I > 
know that much of this display is grandstanding. People who mean business are > 
more circumspect than what you and Suntou display. Consider that FJManneh is 
> a brave soul and she is more valuable to Yahya when she is free than when 
she > is detained. In effect, your hatred of Yahya could very well be 
misplaced. > Ok I know you didn't get this one. The reason why She has not been 
brought > before any court for a long time after two courts rejected the case 
could very > well be that Yahya needs the interlude to reflect and he may 
already have > considered releasing her from the vortex of detention even before I 
thought > about speaking with him about considerations. I know your mind is 
so far gone > about Yahya, you can't bring yourself to believe this could be 
the case. The > same goes for Rambo and Kanyibaa Kanyi. We must admit that 
there is a modicum of > injured pride here for Yahya and we must be considerate 
of that too as we > plead with his better judgement. Allah can be funny 
sometimes.> > "That's why it turns me off when i see killer-instincts and people 
with > tendencies to become oppressors, any form of it." Yero.> > I abhor 
killer-instincts and people with tendencies to become oppressors as > much as 
you do. You may not know this but both you and I have this capacity. > The 
trick is to manage it for good rather than evil. That is where our better > 
judgements come in. Do you agree? Or do you not believe you have killer > 
instincts and tendencies of an oppressor?> > "That's where self-defense should come 
into play." Yero.> > Allo! Allo!!, Earth to Yero, can you hear me?? Can you 
hear me now? Good! > Now focus. The only way you defend yourself against your 
more odious instincts > is to strengthen your benign and more valuable 
instincts and hone your > retrieval mechanism to train on wisdom. As Gandhi is wont 
to quip; "Be the change > you seek".> > "But thanks for your open 
demonstration, and it does make a lot of > difference to me, because time and again, you 
featured her name in your threads." Yero.> > Don't worry Yero. I am 
confident there is method to some of our seeming > madnesses. The way I see it, you 
appreciate value but it will forever be out of > your reach if you remain so 
restless and sensitive. I frankly don't know what > grandstanding could 
possibly yield anyone. More than likely death by > accidental injury.> > "It can be 
only out of concern and frustration I realized." Yero.> > Indeed. And love 
for my fellow citizen. Not concern and frustration only > (which is all you 
and Suntou have right now). I have the additional interest of > love for my 
fellow citizens Suntou, Yero, FJManneh, Yahya, Rambo, Kanyibaa > Kanyi, Tamsir 
Mbowe, Veep Ajaratou, and baboucarr Jatta. Did I share a story > about 
Baboucarr and myself with you? Well, you'll have to wait until June of > '08 and 
remind me or you can check the archives of Posten.> > "If you want to know how 
to be in further help to her, please give her a > courtesy call, I am sure 
she will appreciate it." Yero.> > Don't worry. When I call FJ, it will be to 
let her know she is free to go > anywhere she pleases without prior written 
permission from anyone. I'll let you > do the courtesy calls to her and keep us 
abreast of her spirits. Better yet, > I don't want you or Suntou calling 
FJManneh until I announce that you can. > You may hinder her expeditious release 
unawares. You hear me?> > "Little one," Yero.> > Haroun Al Khairawan. You 
call yourself my younger pliny all the time but you > don't listen to me. Why is 
that? MQDT. Darbo. > > > > Fatou Jaw Manneh’s CaseWhat’s On?By Fabakary B. 
CeesayThe sedition trial > involving journalist Fatou Jaw Manneh and the 
state has been at a standstill > since the case was rejected by Magistrate Imelda 
Mboto of Banjul Magistrates > Court on Monday 6 August, for lack of her court
’s jurisdiction to hear the > case. She then maintained that the case should 
be filed at Brikama which has > jurisdiction over the matter since the 
accused was arrested in that > jurisdiction.Journalist Fatou Jaw Manneh was first 
tried at the Kanifing Magistrates Court > by Magistrate Buba Jawo from 4 
April to the 3 July 2007. On 3 July the trial > magistrate ruled that his court 
has no jurisdiction to hear the case and > therefore transferred the matter to 
Banjul which he maintained had jurisdiction. > On Monday 6 August, 
Magistrate Imelda Mboto of Banjul Magistrates Court also > declined to hear the case 
noting that her court had no jurisdiction to hear > the case. She said the 
prosecution should file their case at the Brikama > Magistrates’ Court. Since 
then the trial never proceeded either at Brikama or > Banjul.Fatou Jaw Manneh, 
a Gambian journalist based in the US, was arrested upon > arrival at the 
Banjul International Airport on the 28 March and detained at > the National 
Intelligence Agency (NIA) for five days before appearing in > court on 3 April 
before Magistrate Pa Harry Jammeh.She refused to take her plea > without a 
counsel. The following day 4 April, she re-appeared before > Magistrate Buba 
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