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Greetings, Haruna, please refresh my memory on who JDAM is?  Yes, I
understand your message, how unfortunate...

Ginny



On 8/28/08, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hello Ginny, I had sent this yesterday but I had exhausted my quota  and it
> did not make it here. Luckily I was able to recover it but I adjusted the
> part
> where you wondered if the event did indeed happen.
>
> I completely concur with your notes below and I understand your anxieties
> variously. I noticed you wondered something about me and I want to make sure
> I
> acknowledge and dispense with it properly:
>
> [And Haruna if Yero is supposedly a thief, etc.,] Ginny.
>
> To satisfy this query, because I'm confident you'll agree that if Yero were
> a thief, you and I and our friends will be best advised to exercise caution
> when  we yield to his solicitations, I encourage you to review the public
> records  of Hennepin County and federal court records.
>
> [would it not have been wise to check this out before pledging any money to
> him?] Ginny.
>
> Yes Ginny I agree with you under ordinary circumstances. However, I share
> with you that Yero embarked on the National Conference upon my urging of him
> and
>  Gainako. And I was not aware, neither did I investigate criminal records of
> Yero  or other Gainako partners. I had recognized Yero's ubiquity at Posten
> (more  than at Gainako as he shares with us), as an effort to yield Gainako,
> a
> young  effort, more notoriety. I am given to charity often. When I noticed
> Yero
> was  turning the benign National Conference into a "United Gambian" private
> organisation, I became uncomfortable and I began to regret my urging of him
> to
>  husband or wife such effort. And when I detected a certain un-ease from our
> most  honourable Magistrate JDAM, I began to more actively qualify my
> doubts.
> That is  when I began my investigations. I want to share with you that that
> investigation  yielded much more than Yero's arrest for theft of others'
> social
> security  numbers and assuming others' identities. I did not however wish to
> embarass Yero  at that time because I may have been accused of onerous
> demarche
> but I withdrew  my pledge basing my reasons on the extant concerns of JDAM
> and my recognition of  the material transmogrification of the National Unity
> Conference. I hope you can  understand my decision better and put it into
> its
> contemporaneous context.
>
> [(If that's what did indeed happen?)] Ginny.
>
> I believe you can satisfy this allegation yourself. Yero his idiot self may
> not be aware of some investigative details of his arrest. The final  case
> file
> was transferred to the INS so when Yero was being arrested it was  under the
> higher immigration violations. The original investigations began in
> Maryland
> in early 2000. When it was discovered that he had violated his  immigration
> status, it was transferred to Hennepin County MN where Yero resided  at the
> time. The immigration charge trumped the initial investigation  of social
> security
> numbers. I do not know if all of the Minnesota-6 were  arraigned on the same
> charges but they have never been of concern or  interest to me. suffice it
> to
> say that in the United States, when you are  arrested on immigration
> violation, more times than not, it is triggered by  lesser infringement. Not
> many
> people even know the nuances of the  triggering suspicions or investigations
> especially when it is an interstate  investigation.
>
> Now then, I understand that you do not know what Haruna said and why that
> innured this uncomfortable exercise in vindications and circumstance. I
> encourage you to stay tuned as I will share with Demba and you good folk the
>  W9Y.
> Don't miss it this time and I may include some Fula in it but don't even
> think
> about asking me to translate for you...Psyche!!!!
>
> Your brother and bestest pal, Haruna Darbo. The internet is funny idn't
> it??? But be comforted in the virtues of Truth, honour, and integrity. No
> de
> marche can trump those. Stay true to yourself. Yero didn't get it the last
> time I
> advised him of that. MQJGDT. Al Mutawakkil.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 8/27/2008 8:00:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Hello,  all, let's just drag out a little bit more dirty laundry while
> we're at it  (and for whoever this applies to) and right before
> Ramadan, too.
>
> I  don't even remember what precipitated this discussion anyway?
> Meaning, what  caused Yero to make the accusations that he made?  And
> then to post  them onto forums where the accused was not subscribed, as
> if to say, "oh  look at what Haruna did to me", asking for some
> sympathy, and he knew he'd  get it too, because he knows perhaps that
> some people on the said forum  where Haruna claims to not be present
> (though the owner/moderator of said  forum claims otherwise) don't much
> care for Haruna, and also because Haruna  would presumably not be there
> to defend himself.
>
> Someone mentioned  that these accusations (Against Haruna) were not
> only posted on Gambia-l,  Gambia Post but on other online Gambian
> forums as well, where, presumably,  Haruna is not present there either?
>
> I don't know what Haruna did, or  did not, do, what he supposedly said
> or didn't say.  And I don't much  care, but spreading around dirty
> laundry, and then proceed to wish everyone  a happy ramadan (backbiting
> / gossip anyone?) just seems a bit hypocritical  to me.
>
> I don't know what started this discussion, admittedly, I don't  follow
> much of the email lists I'm subscribed to these days, and I only  read
> a post when the subject line catches my attention, or I happen to  take
> a cursory look through my inbox to make sure that I've not  neglected
> to respond to an important email.
>
> So I don't know what led  up to this, and to be honest I don't care.
> But don't we have more important  business to attend to?  And Haruna if
> Yero is supposedly a thief,  etc., would it not have been wise to check
> this out before pledging any  money to him?  (If that's what did indeed
> happen?)
>
> And I see  the tribalism bomb has been utilized again, yep, when
> someone makes you  angry, or you're having some sorta beef/problem with
> someone, the go-to  epithet of choice it seems is, wait for it,
> "tribalism".  When all  else fails, just use the word "tribalism", and
> you're bound to get some  sympathy from at least some quarters.
>
> Gosh, I'll have to keep that in  mind next time I get into another
> online tussle with someone (which I'd  really like to avoid).  And oh,
> yeah, "racism" can be used in place of  "tribalism", if "tribalism"
> doesn't fit in a particular instance.   Examples would be "racism",
> "sexism", "ableism", you get the picture, any  kind of word along those
> lines to dirty up your opponent in others' eyes  without you actually
> having to do the actual dirty work of "proving" why  the person you're
> having a disagreement with is actually the awful person  you're
> claiming them to be.
>
> But I'm digressing, as always...  Pheew!  I'm going to find some
> chocolate...  And some men would  say that it's only women that are
> petty.
>
> Ginny
>
>
>
> On  8/27/08, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hello Yero,  How are you? I trust you are alright.
>>
>> Now I want to review two  pending issues with you in order that we may
>> dispense with those. I  understand I may be setting a high bar for our
>> friends   here
>> because whenever another of your bottom-feeders Network makes  allegations
>> about them, they may feel obliged to refute those  allegations. For
>> consolation
>> however, they can be comforted  that it will not be you Yero. That is one
>> less
>> bottom-feeder  among us.
>>
>> 10.[Support your parents and family.] Yero.
>>  Pending disposition. And it  is this matter that had been gnawing at  me.
>> Perhaps I will treat that  next I speak with  you.
>>
>> Yero, I have considered this advice of yours and I have  come to the
>> conclusion that regardless of whether I heed it or not, it  still is so
>> abstract  that
>> you would not be able to  determine if I SUPPORT my parents and family.
>> Further, since they will  have been Haruna's parents, I consider it too
>> private   for
>> your purview. Now if you do not currently have parents to call  your own,
>> I
>> recommend searching elsewhere for parents to adopt. Mine  are beyond
>> limits
>> for
>> you. This is because your background of  theft and perjurious activity
>> (You
>> were  arrested in Hennepin  County, Minnesota, for social security fraud.
>> A
>> good
>> samaritan  ((She is Fula)) paid bond for you so you can have the
>> opportunity
>>  to
>>  secure counsel for your defense. When you were released, and  your case
>> was
>> adjudicated, you proceeded to claim the bond amount. The  problem was
>> that
>> you
>> replaced this samaritan's address  on the envelope with your own so that
> the
>> funds will come to you  directly. When they replied back to you, they
>> asked
>> you to provide  other paperwork to certify that the bond amount should go
>> to
>>  you.
>>  Helas, the only person who can make that certification was  the
>> samaritan.
>> When she discovered your theft, she asked you why you  did that onerous
> act,
>> your response was not convincing to her)  will malign you for
>> consideration
>> to
>> be adopted by my  parents and family. I am terribly sorry we  will not be
>>  able
>> to help you. I will not therefore attach dispensation to  this  item
>> because
>> the
>> implicit allegation it contained  is insignificant as to you or  other.
>>
>> 5-[the Armitage  funds]
>> Pending disposition
>>
>> What you refer to here is  an idea my friend Karamba suggested at Posten
>> (Gambia-Post). Later our  other friend Ginny would query fulfilment of my
>> promise
>> to  such effort. You latched onto it there indicating that your "struggle"
>>
> or
>>
>> "Luta" had continua at least around that time, your  self-deprecations
>> variously to me notwithstanding. I am sorry I did  not adequately dispense
>> with
>> Ginny's query to your  satisfaction. I will here refer you to the archives
>> of
>>  Gambia-Post and should you have further questions, I entreat you to
>> check
>> with
>> Karamba Touray in ordr that he may share other  details with you that  you
>> missed.
>> I am also sorry you  were not able to benefit from the $3000.00  I pledged
>> toward a  national unity conference which you surreptitiously and
> materially
>> changed to a "Gambia United" organisation. FWIW, you lost  that  benefit
>> after I
>> did an investigation on your person  and purposes. Your  background as a
>> thief,
>> dishonest  fellow, and the claims in your immigration  pleadings which
>> were
>>  erroneous as to Yahya, were some of the reasons I withdrew  my pledge.  I
>> know you
>> could not discern that then but I did not want to  shame  you then because
>> our
>> other friends were not aware  of those disqualifiers.
>>
>> I will yield here Yero until I  determine there is merit in dispensing
>> with
>> your other pending  allegations. Be rest assured all of them will be
> properly
>>
>>  dispensed with and with a view to answer your anxieties about Haruna's
>>  character. I know if I were'nt important in "your struggle" and to you,
> you
>> will  not
>> have been agitated.
>>
>> Thanx  again for your attention and I wish you Happy Ramadan in   advance.
>>
>> Your brother in Good Islam. Haruna. Masoud. Czar of  the bottom feeders  &
>> MQJGDT. Darbo.
>>
>>
>>  Hi  Yero,
>>
>> Its me again, Haruna, the tribal bigot and  pathetic  liar.
>>
>> There is something that has been gnawing  at me in your pioneer  notes
> below.
>>
>> I have taken the  liberty to number the items in order  that we may better
>>
> be
>>  able  to keep track of their dispositions. To  wit:
>>
>>  [In a message dated 8/21/2008 1:20:41 P.M. Mountain Daylight   Time,
>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>
>> Bro  Haruna,
>>
>> Now you  proved to all and sundry that you are  a  pathetic liar and a
> tribal
>>
>> bigot, the very reasons  that you were kicked out of  the Gambia post
>> forum
>>  for.
>> If you want, we will place those threads here for   others  to know your
>> character.
>>
>> Here is some  advise for, which I  believe  will benefit you.
>>
>>  1-[Stop insulting others first, because  you or  parents are not  better
> than
>> anyone else.] Yero
>> Dispensed  with as  a  LIE because I did not insult Demba first. On the
>> contrary,   Demba  insulted me first by attempting to steal my
>> intellectual
>>  property
>> and by  shepherding such intellectual proerty to accrue  GAINAKO
> readership.
>>
>> EUREKA!!!!
>>
>> 2.[Stop  lying about things because a  lie doesn't leave long.]  Yero
>>  Pending disposition.
>>
>> 3.[Stop  being boastful, including  all the people everywhere including
>> those
>>
>> you promised  resideny at your ranch or business; cars; et cetera.]
>> Yero
>>
>> Dispensed with as a LIE because I do not have a ranch,  and even  the home
>> that I have, I promised it to folk who had  fallen on hard  times and only
>> offered
>> it as temporal  relief. However the modalities  of the move were  not
>>  discussed
>> perhaps because the folks' situations  have  ameliorated  tremendously.
>> And I have not promised anyone   residency at my business or cars, or
>> etcetera. If you meant to say  I  have promised someone a BUSINESS then
> there
>>
>> might  be
>> a nugget of  truth in that. I will endeavour to treat that  separate so
>> there
>> is  no doubt as to comprehension of  your chicken-scratch.
>>
>> 4.Stop making  false promises  because it is a sign of  hypocrisy.
>> Pending   disposition.
>>
>> 5-the Armitage funds
>> Pending  disposition
>>
>> 6-the 7  cows for the people of Basse
>>  Dispensed with as an onerous LIE  because  I never promised the folk  of
>> Basse
>> 7 cows nor did I even promise  them  any  money. The gift I ended up
>> giving
>> Li-LLaahi Warasooluhu,  was  distributed  among many people of many towns
> and
>> villages  of  Gambia. And I did not promise  it to them. I merely was
>> aware
>> of
>> their
>> anxieties and my friend and I   completed the gifting in honour of
>> eid-ul-fitr.
>>
>> 7-the  schools
>> Pending disposition.
>>
>> 8-the  construction  of bantabas
>> Dispensed with as a LIE for I never  promised   anyone a bantaba. I am
> averse
>> to bantabas for Gambians in the  main   for I view them as contributing to
>> their
>>  delinquency at this time...  Endless  chatter, gaucherie, and  trifle
>> mischief-making in addition  to   Attaya-Vous.
>>
>> 9.(name the rest)
>> Vee vill be vaiting.  Not to  Forrrrrrget as our  friend Arafat was wont
>> to
>>  quip  (PBUH).
>>
>> 10.Support your parents and family.]  Yero.
>>
>>
>> Pending  disposition. And it is this matter  that had been gnawing at me.
>> Perhaps I will treat that next I speak  with you.
>>
>> 11.Those that cut  blood with their own parents  or blood
>> brothers/sisters,
>> might as  well cut relation with  any one else, moreso, if  they cut
> relation
>> with
>> God  first.
>> Pending disposition.
>>
>> 12. [Stop tribal  tendencies! All  tribes or people are created equal.  I
>>  have
>> seen this label put on  your head in the past, I  kind-of-second guessed
>> then,
>> but you  vindicated those  people now. I am afarid many contributors here
>> are
>>
>> not  comfortable threading with you.] Yero
>> Pending disposition.  However  I'm not sure if I can deal adequately with
>>
> my
>>  tribal tendencies if  any. You must though agree with me that I am within
>>
> my
>>
>> heritage  rights (whichever persuasion I may belong  to) to tend toward my
>> tribe
>> or persuasion. I encourage you to  have tendencies toward your chosen
>> persuasion. Be proud of and develop  your culture/tribe/persuasion. That
>> will
>>  be good
>>  for you. That is cultural development issue.  Neansmoins, I will
>> consider
>> that
>> you meant to say "tribalist  tendencies" as  you understand the  term. I
> will
>> do due-diligence to   identify my tribe for you and I will share  with you
>>
> my
>>  tendencies  toward that tribe. I hope I can allay your fears that I   may
>> have
>>
>> tribalist tendencies. This is different from  a tribal bigot you see.
>> That
>> I
>> will
>> treat  also. This one is of more import to our friends here  and   other
>> Gambians, Africans, and to humanity at large. So I will   make sure I give
>> it
>> due
>> consideration by referring you  to my  impending essays also. But I will
>> treat the
>> part  of it that is  germaine to Haruna here.
>>
>>
>> Thanx  Yero. We are well on our way to  completion. I generally do not
>> like
>> leaving matters hanging. I  understand I must complete my  conversations
>> on
>> Orphaned Children.  That was pending my research  and other fact-finding.
>> I
>> wish  to
>> announce to you that I  have gathered an enormous volume of info on  the
>> matter
>>  now and I will share those with you upon completion of  these  matters
>> bearing
>> on my credibility. This so that when I  share  that information with  you,
>> you
>> may rely on  it as true in the  main.
>>
>> Tataa for now. Haruna MQJGDT  Darbo. Aka Masoud. Czar of
>> bottom-feeders.
>>
>>
>>
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