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Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 3 Dec 2001 13:09:53 +0000
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Sanusi,

I concur with you that a civil service and salaries review commissions are
long overdue. It would have helped avoid the so many unfortunate firings
going on.

Unfortunately I don't know much about the circumstances surrounding the
dismissal of all these civil servants. I would like to think that these
dismissals are not politically motivated as the president himself told Mrs.
Juka Jabang of MDI, that contrary to rumours going around town that her
dismissal was eminent, he wanted her and all civl servants to rest assured
that nobody in his government will be fired for his/her political views. He
also re-iterated that he will not tolerate anybody denying their service to
the public for political reasons as they are employed paid from taxpayer's
monies. He also said that whilst he does not mind civil servants opposing
the APRC party, he will not tolerate any civil servant opposing the
government. The government and the party were two different entities and as
such anybody who do not want to implement government policies should either
resign or be fired, he said. This is all I know about the matter.

Have a good day, Gassa.

>From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Att.Simon Peters.
>Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:35:40 +0000
>
>Gassa
>
>You wrote:
>"
>As for the frequent hiring and firings going on, I
>have said it before that I don't like commenting on
>specific incidents if those directly affected  would
>rather not discuss it. However, taken in their
>generality, they can, in my opinion, at best breed
>suspicion among the civil servants and also  minimise
>the use of discretion where the rules are not very
>clear or are non-existent. This stiffles innovation
>and change which I strongly believe is in short supply
>among Gambians in general and the civil service in
>particular."
>
>
>Don't you think it is about time that we have Civil
>Service Review Commission. The recent hiring and
>firing by President Jammeh clearly indicates that
>there is an urgent need for structural and operational
>reforms within the Civil and Public Service. Our Civil
>Service needs stability and APRC has failed badly on
>that aspect. I am a bit worried as to what has gone
>wrong with the General Orders of the Civil Service.
>According to the General Orders, there are several
>penalties that can be imposed against a Civil Servant.
>Unfortunately, for those Fired Civil Servants, none of
>them have been asked to face a disciplinary hearing
>and as a result none of them can benefit from the
>penalties stipulated under the General Orders.
>
>Finally, I do not agree with your explanation for not
>speaking up. The sacking of Civil Servants is an
>injustice which all of us should speak against.
>
>Remember the words of President Olusegun Obsanjo;
>THOSE WHO FAIL TO SPEAK AGAINST THE EVIL ARE GUILTY AS
>THOSE WHO COMPROMISE WITH THE EVIL"
>
>On that note I await your response.
>
> > >From: Simon Peters <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Att.Barrow
> > >Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:25:50 -0800
> > >
> > >Pa Modou,
> > >    You already know the answer to our problem.
> > Jammeh
> > >is the problem, without him being remove we will
> > still
> > >be in a vicious circle.  I guest you don't really
> > >understand what is development since you are only
> > >considering the infrastructure.  It is a same on
> > >people like you to come here and defend such a
> > >government.  You claim to tell us the truth but you
> > >have not mention anything about the firing and
> > hiring
> > >going on since it does not affect you or any of
> > your
> > >family.  What a selfish interest.
> > >Peace!
> > >Simon.
> > >
> > >--- Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > Alagie,
> > > >
> > > > One of the things I hate most, is narrow
> > > > minded-ness. This is because narrow
> > > > mindedness limits your ability/willingeness to
> > > > reason out things in their
> > > > proper perspectives. I know you wouldn't make
> > the
> > > > enquiry because you
> > > > already know what I am talking about. Boy, what
> > is
> > > > wrong with you? I have
> > > > said it here, in no uncertain terms, that things
> > are
> > > > very bad, have been
> > > > very, very bad and that we need to do something
> > > > about it. But how can we do
> > > > anything about it without talking about it,
> > > > understanding it and developing
> > > > a strategy to overcome it? How can we develop a
> > > > strategy to solve our
> > > > problems if selfish people like you not only
> > elope,
> > > > but will not allow
> > > > others to try their bit? Some of you are really
> > > > anti-Gambia and not
> > > > anti-Yahya. If you were not anti-Gambia you
> > would
> > > > encourage respectful
> > > > discussion of all our problems with a view to
> > > > finding the best solutions to
> > > > them. But no! You sit in your comfortable
> > > > environments, not caring about
> > > > anything except what affects you directly and
> > expect
> > > > to see and hear about
> > > > things that you like but will not do yourself.
> > You
> > > > make me feel sick. Your
> > > > twisted logic Alagie, will not allow you to do
> > that.
> > > > Your narrow minded-ness
> > > > will also not allow it. Very sad if you ask me.
> > > >
> > > > Njiaya, I have said it here before, that
> > development
> > > > is a process and not an
> > > > event. We may not have all the answers to all
> > our
> > > > poblems at the moment but
> > > > can atleast try to implement some of the answers
> > > > that we have. We cannot
> > > > think and act digitally. No Alagie we can't. For
> > > > decades, we have not had
> > > > the opportunity to scrutinize policies made on
> > our
> > > > behalf and as a result,
> > > > we have not only been subjected to those
> > policies
> > > > without our consent but we
> > > > suffered as a result of them. This is what the
> > > > government is trying to
> > > > overcome and they are making good progress. The
> > best
> > > > you can do do is to
> > > > criticize them were they have their
> > short-comings
> > > > but encouraging them were
> > > > they are doing well. This, I believe, is the way
> > > > forward. None of you can
> > > > force change in anybody especially in cyber
> > space.
> > > > If that is the case, then
> > > > what is the point of trying to discourage civil
> > > > discourse about important
> > > > issues that concern and affect all of us?
> > > >
> > > > Alagie, your choice to live in the States, join
> > the
> > > > US army and now a
> > > > reserve, is not my business. But to sit there
> > and
> > > > try to bambozle people
> > > > down here is not acceptable. I have given you,
> > and
> > > > all those who have access
> > > > to the L, information that you can rely on for
> > the
> > > > future development of the
> > > > country. What you do with it is your business. I
> > am
> > > > sure some day your
> > > > conscience will remind you of the lost
> > opportunity
> > > > you had in making a
> > > > difference.
> > > >
> > > > On a final note Alagie, now that I have fully
> > > > established your true
> > > > identity, consider this debate closed, atleast
> > from
> > > > my end till whenever you
> > > > come to the Gambia again.
> > > >
> > > > Have a good day, Gassa.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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