".....NC will only contribute to a coalition if they cannot name their own
candidate...". SWhould read "NC will only contribute to a coalition if they
can name their own candidate".
Joe
>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along?
>Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 15:03:29 +0000
>
>Lamin, thanks for your position. Since you are not prepared to support
>your
>assertions against "the STDGP members", that yourself and Conteh attempted
>to castigate, then there is no need for me to coax you.
>
>"Yes my friend Joe, I was here when Conteh called you a snitch, and of
>course, I couldn't disagree more with that characterization. It was
>regrettable and I hope nothing of that nature happens again. However, the
>incident perhaps should serve as a lesson for you to learn from, and I
>would, based on that assessment, if in your place, evaluate myself. Ask
>yourself what is it that you have said, done or is doing over the years to
>warrant such a portrayal. May be you have given Lamine too many reasons to
>look at you as mulish. May be the many fights you had with the very same
>people you suppose to be in the same camp with, were reason enough for him
>to dub you such."
>
>Lamin, are you really serious about the above? Why on earth would someone
>blatantly lie about you and you spend your time being introspective? Now,
>even though time has revealed Conteh to be a fabricator and a liar, you
>still could not bring yourself to acknowledging that but to call it
>unfortunate or regrettable. Where is the balance? Lamin, could the "may
>be" above be your inner thoughts? It sure do sound like it. Thank God I
>am
>not you if that is the case. It is also very interesting that the one that
>needs to be defending his position is silent and you make it your business
>to interpret what may have been on his mind. But all the same. You cannot
>tell folks on this list about Lamin Jasseh Conteh, for we have seen plenty
>of him.
>
>I'm done with this issue and waiting for Conteh to attempt at divisiveness
>again. Decentralize if that is what you'll wish and let others go on with
>their agenda. After the last elections, Conteh and Sheriff Dibba joined
>the
>APRC and folks remember his famous "Olive Branch" sermon. Two years ago,
>Conteh said that NC will only contribute to a coalition if they cannot name
>their own candidate (Conteh their spokesperson). Then a year ago he named
>himself that candidate, even though he did not live in the Gambia five
>consecutive years prior to the elections of 2006. I told him that we have
>a
>coalition and Gambians support a coalition. Then he and his spokesperson
>turn around to start their lies that I was a snitch for Yaya to silence me.
>Now, he is the brainchild for decentralization, why? "Because the members
>of the STGDP are in this for future appointment in a NADD government".
>Lamin, do you see a pattern here? Who is the one that is in this for
>himself?So you cannot tell me about Conteh and we have seen plenty of him.
>Other communities such as New York, Seattle, Minnesota, Tennessee, etc., in
>collaboration with the STGDP gave way more to NADD, over NC and they are
>not
>making noise about it. So, why NC or should I say Conteh making such
>noise?
> Brother Lamin, time validates the truth or falsehood, just be patient.
>I'm done with this issue. Thanks for your opinions.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
>>From: Lang Tunkara <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along?
>>Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 04:09:49 +0000
>>
>>Joe:
>>
>>I did not claimed to have known what your organization- STGDP is about;
>>nor
>>have I made any stab to define it, in my postings. That assertion in your
>>respond to me was probably your own assumption. No qualms! You are
>>entitled
>>to asserting your own views. My postings were more directed to my concern
>>about the incessant squabbling that we have all come to perceive both here
>>on the L and even beyond. In fact, the name STGDP came about as I
>>attempted
>>to narrate to you what had prompted Mr. Conteh’s writings. And while I
>>agree with Lamine on the need for all of us to show tolerant and respect
>>for
>>one another, I do not come here to speak for him. Oh no! no! no! Mr.
>>Conteh, I’m sure you and I both know, can handle his own fights. He does
>>not need me to take his place for him.
>>
>>Yes my friend Joe, I was here when Conteh called you a snitch, and of
>>course, I couldn't disagree more with that characterization. It was
>>regrettable and I hope nothing of that nature happens again. However, the
>>incident perhaps should serve as a lesson for you to learn from, and I
>>would, based on that assessment, if in your place, evaluate myself. Ask
>>yourself what is it that you have said, done or is doing over the years to
>>warrant such a portrayal. May be you have given Lamine too many reasons
>>to
>>look at you as mulish. May be the many fights you had with the very same
>>people you suppose to be in the same camp with, were reason enough for him
>>to dub you such.
>>
>>On the question you posed on the naming of names of the STGDP members
>>alluded to in the previous posting, I would like to pass on these three
>>lines to you from my last email and that my friend is how far I’m prepared
>>to go.
>>“So while you have the right to disagree with what Conteh wrote, you must
>>also try to find out what happen between the NADD officials and your
>>folks
>>at this meeting, and then you can go on with what ever you want to say”.
>>This may sound too much, but in the interest of avoiding further arguments
>>and confrontations, wouldn’t it be more prudent and wiser if you try and
>>find out for yourself what transpired in the meetings held from, New York,
>>to DC? You will be provided with first-hand information as to what
>>occurred
>>between whom and where and then give yourself the opportunity to draw your
>>own conclusions as to the authenticity of what had been stipulated here.
>>I’m sure as a professional minded individual, you would not mind taking up
>>this responsibility.
>>And with this Mr. Sambou, I respectfully rest my case.
>>
>>Lamin A.Tunkara.
>>
>>
>>
>>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along
>>>Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 14:54:27 +0000
>>>
>>>Lamin thank you for you opinion and yes, we are in this struggle
>>>together.
>>>However, we are not in a struggle for divisiveness. The questions that
>>>both
>>>myself and Musa Jeng asked Conteh are still not answered. Where as you
>>>came
>>>to speak for Conteh, you also have not answered our question. If both
>>>yourself and Conteh believe in partnership, why did you not contact the
>>>STGDP and lodge your complains to them? We are just responding to what
>>>Conteh announced to the readership and we have no clue what he is talking
>>>about and whom he is talking about. This was brought in the open and it
>>>will be resolved in the open. To date you have not named the STGDP
>>>representative that you kept alluding to. That is unacceptable. Both of
>>>you are obligated to follow through and tell the readers whom you have in
>>>mind, and you need to do that where you announced your charge.
>>>
>>>Going back to Conteh, I'm sure you were here when he came and lied about
>>>me
>>>being an snitch for Yaya Jammeh and how I regularly visit the Gambian
>>>Embassy, my clandestine meeting with Tijan Ceesay, etc., in collaboration
>>>with other criminal minds and the only thing that vindicated me is time.
>>>Many folks here although doubted his fabrications, but Conteh piled on so
>>>much shit that one cannot help but give him the benefit of doubt. He and
>>>his conspirators used the ethnic card and it was nothing but ugliness.
>>>Conteh has been found by this readership to be a liar, thus if he shows
>>>up
>>>here to throw that same nonsense, he shall be told and it has nothing to
>>>do
>>>with getting along but to be truthful with each other as we struggle.
>>>
>>>STGDP is aware of the dynamics in North Carolina but we choose to focus
>>>on
>>>what we do best, work on behalf of Gambians and NADD. You did not hear
>>>us
>>>discuss the jockeying that obtains in your neck of the woods and some of
>>>the
>>>baseless charges against STGDP, only to see Conteh show up with his usual
>>>diet. I do no own Gambia and neither does STGDP, but we will not allow
>>>Conteh or any other to play games with our reputation. All we ask is for
>>>you to be specific with your charge and not throw generalities. It is
>>>also
>>>interesting that you seem to be defining an entire organization without
>>>knowing the organization and what they do. So, please, in the spirit of
>>>fairness and truth in narration, tell this readership whom among the
>>>STGDP
>>>representatives/leadership/coordinators/rank and file you are talking
>>>about.
>>> That is the right thing to do so the readership will be fully informed.
>>>Thanks for taking the time to make your case.
>>>
>>>Chi Jaama
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Lang Tunkara <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: For Joe Sambou: Can we not get along
>>>>Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 05:40:48 +0000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Joe:
>>>>
>>>>The challenges we face today in the Gambia are bigger for one person to
>>>>handle. At this point in time, you need to reach out to people not
>>>>create
>>>>enemies. Lamin Jasseh Conteh is one of the many people you need to work
>>>>with, if you want to see your wishes of a better Gambia come true. Like
>>>>STGDP, Lamin Jasseh Conteh is equally committed to seeing a thriving
>>>>Gambia. He is committed to seeing a Gambia where the respect for the
>>>>rule
>>>>of law is upheld, a Gambia where freedom of speech is honored, and above
>>>>all, to a Gambia where we can work together as one, to further the
>>>>interest
>>>>of our nation.
>>>>
>>>>The dividing issue between you, some of the members of the organization
>>>>you
>>>>are speaking for, and Lamin as has been alluded to, in your postings,
>>>>was
>>>>the way we conduct ourselves. When the NADD leadership visited the US a
>>>>month or so ago, they met with many people, organizations, including,
>>>>I’m
>>>>sure your own STGDP. Many questions were asked of them out of humility
>>>>and
>>>>respect as to what these NADD reps plan to do to change the course of
>>>>our
>>>>country. Unfortunately, a hard line approach was taken allegedly by
>>>>some
>>>>members of the STGDP at one of these meetings as they
>>>>forcefully attempt to pressure the NADD reps, to name names as to whom
>>>>they
>>>>will chose as the flag bearer of the coalition. Accordingly, the
>>>>exchange
>>>>between the parties became so heated, that a member of the NADD
>>>>entourage
>>>>challenged these folks to return to Gambia and take up the
>>>>responsibilities
>>>>of the opposition if they (the alleged questioners) are not satisfied
>>>>with
>>>>the way the coalition is handling things. My friend, yes, while it is
>>>>our
>>>>right as citizens to ask questions about the direction of our nation, it
>>>>is
>>>>also imperative we understand and apply the right approaches in that
>>>>effort. I think our alleged friends at STGDP went a little too far in
>>>>the
>>>>way they
>>>>conducted themselves at that meeting. Lamin’s previous postings were
>>>>directed to address such encounters and the need for all to understand
>>>>that
>>>>the time for such contentious encounters is not now.
>>>>
>>>>Of course Halifa Sallah or anyone of the NADD reps as matured and
>>>>seasoned
>>>>politicians as they are, know better not to say any ugly things about
>>>>the
>>>>people they need most. They have to say good things about STGDP and its
>>>>membership because those guys among many other people are the ones they
>>>>can
>>>>count on come election time. But what Halifa or any NADD rep is capable
>>>>of
>>>>doing is to listen and observe the kind of people they met with to equip
>>>>themselves with a better idea as to who they may be working with. And I
>>>>think that is exactly what they did. For some reason, they were
>>>>disappointed by the way they were treated by some of the people
>>>>allegedly
>>>>your
>>>>own guys. If we behave like the know-alls, forceful and arrogant in
>>>>nature
>>>>we do ourselves a great disservice by leaving an unpleasant lasting
>>>>impression to those we come across. So while you have the right to
>>>>disagree with what Conteh wrote, you must also try to find out what
>>>>happen
>>>>between the NADD officials and your folks at this meeting, and then you
>>>>can
>>>>go on with what ever you want to say. But also bear in mind that
>>>>everyone
>>>>you can get to work with counts. Just like they need you to change the
>>>>Gambia for the better, you need them as well.
>>>>
>>>>Lamin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: Re: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION PETITION
>>>>MONDAY
>>>>Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 15:43:58 +0000
>>>> >Momodou Lamin Jasseh-Conteh, please take note and read carefully
>>>> >what Halifa
>>>> >said about the STGDP you attempted to discredit. You obviously had
>>>> >lied
>>>> >about the quote you hung on Halifa and you ought to be ashamed of
>>>> >yourself.
>>>> >How many times will you show up here to lie about people? Are you
>>>> >that
>>>> >malicious and selfish? You need to really look within yourself, for
>>>> >you
>>>> >have done
>>>>a good job revealing the real Jasseh-Conteh to Gambians.
>>>> >When
>>>> >will your lies and misrepresentation and malice end?
>>>> >
>>>> >Chi Jaama
>>>> >
>>>> >Joe
>>>> >
>>>> >>From: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >>Subject: Re: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION
>>>> >>PETITION
>>>> >>MONDAY
>>>> >>Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:41:24 -0400
>>>> >>
>>>> >>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by
>>>> >><[log in to unmask]> ]
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Finally Mr. Sallah, extended his thanks to Gambians at home and
>>>> >>abroad who
>>>> >>are helping to restore democracy in The Gambia. "This is a
>>>> >>tremendous
>>>> >>initiative from the beginning.
>>>>NADD have emerged and in
>>>> >>collaboration with
>>>> >>STGDP. We commend Gambians at home and in the diaspora for
>>>> >>supporting us
>>>> >>morally, materially and financially-this is the success of the
>>>> >>Gambian
>>>> >>people" Halifa noted.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Congratulation to STGDP. You decided to walk the walk, and
>>>> >>continued
>>>> >>vigoroulsy to make a difference in the Gambia.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>Thanks
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > From: panderry mbai <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >> > Date: 2005/10/02 Sun PM 02:22:59 EDT
>>>> >> > To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> >> > Subject: [>-<] GAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION
>>>> >>PETITION
>>>> >>MONDAY
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > [input]
>>>> >> > NEWSGAMBIA'S HIGH COURT TO HEAR NADD'S ELECTION PETITION
>>>>MONDAY
>>>> >> > IRIN NEWS-->BY PA NDERRY M'BAI and YERO JALLOW
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > ---------------------------------
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > October 2, 2005
>>>> >> > Hearing on an election petition filed by Gambia's opposition
>>>> >>coalition
>>>> >>NADD will begin on Monday 3RD October, at the High Court in The
>>>> >>Gambian
>>>> >>capital Banjul, The ALLGAMBIAN online Newspaper has been reliably
>>>> >>informed.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The NADD leadership are challenging Thursday's electoral
>>>> >>outcome, which
>>>> >>was in favour of APRC candidate Sainey Mbye, who defeated incumbent
>>>> >>NRP
>>>> >>leader Hamat Bah. The opposition who resorted to court action are
>>>> >>charging
>>>> >>electoral fraud and would want the High Court to nullify Thursday's
>>>>
>>>> >>polling
>>>> >>results.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > In a petition filed in the High Court, the NADD leadership
>>>> >>adduced that
>>>> >>the Upper Saloum by election, which led to the defeat of Hamat Bah
>>>> >>was
>>>> >>characterised by massive electoral fraud and intimidation of its
>>>> >>supporters. They argue that the polls were not free and fair.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Chief among their prayers according to our sources "is for a
>>>> >>fresh
>>>> >>elections be conducted in Upper Saloum and the current electoral
>>>> >>results on
>>>> >>Upper Saloum be declared null and void."
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The ALLGAMBIAN has learnt that the opposition had gathered
>>>> >>series of
>>>> >>evidence, which they intend to present in court to support their
>>>> >>case.
>>>> >>Sources say the
>>>>said high profile political case will attract both
>>>> >>local
>>>> >>and international attention, as the said polls were said to have
>>>> >>been
>>>> >>conducted under hostile political environment.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Speaking to The ALLGAMBIAN, NADD Coordinator Halifa Sallah,
>>>> >>confirmed
>>>> >>about the said petition they filed in the High Court. Mr. Sallah
>>>> >>says they
>>>> >>thought it necessary to challenge what he called the electoral
>>>> >>"discrepancies" in Upper Saloum, where a lot of NADD supporters
>>>> >>suffered in
>>>> >>the hands of APRC militants.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > According to Mr. Sallah, NADD committee members were busy
>>>> >>assessing the
>>>> >>election results and they came to the conclusion that NADD
>>>> >>supporters
>>>> >>suffered in the hands of state
>>>>agents and APRC militants. He cites
>>>> >>the
>>>> >>incident in Bullock, Sibanor and Kalagi where NADD voters were
>>>> >>denied by
>>>> >>armed soldiers from traveling to Jarra West on polling day. Mr.
>>>> >>Sallah says
>>>> >>some of these voters couldn't vote on Thursday, as the soldiers
>>>> >>will not
>>>> >>allow them to cross the bridge at Kalagi. He also cited the
>>>> >>political
>>>> >>fracas in Njau where Hamat Bah and his convoy were attacked. "Chaos
>>>> >>have
>>>> >>been registered in upper Saloum, and there were a lot of illegal
>>>> >>voter
>>>> >>transfers" Halifa told The ALLGAMBIAN.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The NADD coordinator also charged that local government leaders
>>>> >>such as
>>>> >>Chiefs, commissioners and others were used in disrupting the
>>>> >>election.
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >> > A jubilant Halifa Sallah talking about his return to Parliament
>>>> >>went on
>>>> >>to say "this is the verdict of the people." He also informed
>>>> >>AllGambian
>>>> >>that on their next meeting they will further analyse the election
>>>> >>results
>>>> >>and they will move on with their projects. "Everything will move on
>>>> >>and we
>>>> >>are building up a network" Halifa maintains.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > When asked about the feelings of Hamat Bah, following his defeat
>>>> >>Halifa
>>>> >>said "I spoke to him and he is in high spirit."
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Finally Mr. Sallah, extended his thanks to Gambians at home and
>>>> >>abroad
>>>> >>who are helping to restore democracy in The Gambia. "This is a
>>>> >>tremendous
>>>> >>initiative from the beginning. NADD have
>>>>emerged and in
>>>> >>collaboration with
>>>> >>STGDP. We commend Gambians at home and in the diaspora for
>>>> >>supporting us
>>>> >>morally, materially and financially-this is the success of the
>>>> >>Gambian
>>>> >>people" Halifa noted.
>>>> >> >
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