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Mo, thanks for your thoughts.  Sorry for not coming out clear.  What I was 
trying to say is not that there is no other capable people out there, but 
rather, who that person or group might be, given the state of mind of our 
people.  I know about Gambians bringing this to bear and my opinion is one 
in a million.  This is beyond Mo and Joe and few others on-line.  I have no 
issue with trying to inspire, but I'm not sure I have the energy to spend 
another five to ten years dragging a dead weight, as we had.

"The geniality of the idea of a coalition lies not with the fact that it was 
hatched in the Diaspora.  But that it reflected the concrete possibilities 
of a united front against tyranny on the ground, in Gambia. i.e if the 
opposition at home had not supported it, zilch would have come out of it."

My reference to the diaspora is to show that this was not what some of the 
leaders wanted even when they know that is our only hope.  In the end, there 
was a filibuster.  If those same forces are around, I do not see how we can 
ever prevail.  Then what?

"If supporters of the UDP, or any other party for that matter, wish to stick 
with their leader(s),
that would be their prerogative."

Mo, I'm surprised you do not see these sectional attachments as the biggest 
stumbling block of any positive movement in the opposition.  To avoid being 
viewed as a spoiler, I will yield for other Gambians to add their voice and 
hopefully, we may craft a better union for the future.  Keep up the good 
work.


Chi Jaama

Joe


>From: Momodou S Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: SV: CALL for THE RESIGNATION of ALL Opposition leaders
>Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:17:21 +0100
>
>Joe,
>Just a couple of observations on your perspective: I do not have any
>particular individual or group of individuals in mind when we mention 
>"fresh
>blood". I suppose that democratic organisations and parties have structures
>by which succession in leadership is effectively brought to bear? But if as
>you fear, that there are no "visible" individuals made of leadership
>material, then the failure of the current leadership would be even more
>severe than you and I ever imagined. What must they have been thinking? 
>That
>Gambians would re-endorse them time and time again, after every singular
>failure? Like traditional chiefs of bygone ages?
>This will be a general call from Gambians all over. If supporters of the
>UDP, or any other party for that matter, wish to stick with their 
>leader(s),
>that would be their prerogative. But those making the call for resignations
>hopefully, will maintain their independence of thinking and action
>irrespective of who is affected.
>
>The geniality of the idea of a coalition lies not with the fact that it was
>hatched in the Diaspora. But that it reflected the concrete possibilities 
>of
>a united front against tyranny on the ground, in Gambia. i.e if the
>opposition at home had not supported it, zilch would have come out of it.
>Excorsising retrogressive forces in all parties is what party militants and
>grass-roots members must do. So we better inspire them to contemplate that
>action, sooner rather than later.
>
>Chi Jaama,
>Sidibeh
>
>
>-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>Frn: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] Fr Joe Sambou
>Skickat: den 5 februari 2007 18:46
>Till: [log in to unmask]
>mne: Re: CALL for THE RESIGNATION of ALL Opposition leaders
>
>Sidebeh et al, what you call for is noble and sensible.  However, we also
>need to be realistic about our situation and politics.  Who do we have in
>mind as this "Fresh Blood"?  Why is this envisioned "Fresh Blood" not 
>active
>at this time or in the past, in our politics?  That sounds like a yearning
>for a Messiah, and that would be an up-coming disappointment, in my 
>opinion.
>
>Yes, the opposition is fragmented and there does not seem a possibility of
>gluing it together any time soon.  If this suggestion could have been
>speedily effected by a vote, today, I had vote for it in a New York minute,
>but how many Gambians in the opposition would be willing to do that?  Do 
>any
>of us believe for a minute, that those Gambians in the diaspora for 
>example,
>that support the UDP will agree to the sidelining of the UDP?  If any
>believes that I have an Ox to sell on the Moon.  This is one occasion that 
>I
>would love to be proven very wrong.  We have a lot of superiority complexes
>to deal with and I'm not sure five years is enough to turn the corner.
>
>Omar, if we dissolve NADD, then the ARC must be dissolved too, for the 
>later
>is no longer in NADD, in the spirit of completeness.  In essence, what we
>are doing is to give NADD a new name, with different players to head it.
>Remember, the concept of NADD is the brainchild of not the opposition
>leaders or their supporters, but Gambians in the diaspora.
>
>I am of the opinion that what is needed in the Gambian opposition 
>leadership
>is to bring together progressive forces and exorcise destructive forces.
>Otherwise, we will spend the next five years playing games with ourselves
>with nothing to show for it.  The avoidance of addressing the destructive
>forces in the opposition will yield palatable, the suggestion of the
>abolishing of progressive forces, in the process.  However, just like a
>circle, we will meet up with the same destructive forces that we are by
>default accommodating.  Without that exorcism, we'd be wasting our time,
>again.  Your ideas are progressive, and I like to associate with 
>progressive
>forces.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
> >From: omar joof <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: CALL for THE  RESIGNATION of ALL Opposition leaders
> >Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:02:14 +0000
> >
> >Sidibe and Folks,After very serious considerations, I add my humble
> >voice to  your call for the entire leadership of the opposition in The
> >Gambia to resign and make room for  a new leadership that is fresh and
> >will  generate the requisite political exuberance, that can dislodge
> >dictator Jammeh and his nefariou  A(F)PRC from power.  Unity amongst
> >the general opposition leadership is imperative to the development of a
> >single opposition coalition. I share your view that our present leaders
> >have not only failed to effect that unity, but have also made the
> >likelihood of unity in the future even more remote. They should accept
> >their collective responsibility in this regard and go.Furthermore, I
> >wish to suggest that NADD's leadership should start looking into ways
> >and means of amicably dissolving the organization as soon as possible.
> >This would engender the necessary political environment in the
> >opposition  for  new players to take over the task of unifying the
> >opposition before the next elections. The presence of the current
> >leadership and NADD would not leave enough room in which  such persons
> >can operate effectively.  But it should be quickly added that  the
> >current leadership should not go into political retirement. They should
> >be on the scene playing other roles.It should be noted that NADD was
> >not envisaged to be a permanent structure. Its role was designed to be
> >an interim one, that would make possible the development of a
> >democratic environment and institutions. Thus its existence in the
> >current environment would represent an anomaly. By failing to obtain
> >its stated objectives in the last presidential and National Assembly
> >Elections, we have ample reasons for dissolving it. There is no doubt
> >that a lot has been learnt through its existence, but its also obvious
> >that emotionally hanging onto an institution which has become
> >anachronistic would be politically futile.This is a very important
> >debate. The purpose is to reinvent the all important unity that we
> >urgently need to remove from power the political culture of banditry,
>brutality and criminality that the A(F)PRC regime has come to represent.
>Omar Joof. > Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 08:15:58 -0500> From:
> >[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: CALL for THE  RESIGNATION of ALL
> >Opposition leaders> To: [log in to unmask]> > Brother Sidibeh,>  
> >
> >                         I cannot agree with more on this. I concur and
> >let
> > > our voices be heard on  this.This part of the democratization
> > > process.> Edrissa.> >
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