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My only concern is will Africa put in place of the ICC, a mechanism to at least say sorry to so many victims. Leaving the victims to their own devise will only encourage revenge and more violence on the continent. Imagine someone elected president can be  sitting comfortably in office with such a horrendous past. 
Malamin
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Interesting Niamorkono, but this is a campaign I cannot now, and maybe will never support given the current dynamics of international public life and the ICC record thus far. International criminal justice ala ICC does not help the pursuit of freedom in Africa. It does not restrain dictatorship in any manner meaningful to the ordinary and powerless. The standards that trigger an international  
response are too high and selecting targets for prosecution too discriminatory. No question there are arguments pro and con, but on balance, the dignified conduct is for Africa to exit the ICC. It is a big area, and God willing, I shall take a look at it in the coming months, maybe years. Desmond Tutu is a conscientious human being, but on the ICC, his position is far from compelling. 
  
  
LJDarbo 





On Saturday, 12 October 2013, 13:15, Fye Samateh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 



I will join Tutu to sign the Petition... 


Niamorkono... 






Dear Avaaz friends, 





In 2 days, African leaders could vote to withdraw from the International Criminal Court, crippling one of the world's best hopes for confronting genocide and crimes against humanity. I know together we can stop this. Join me in urging the voices of reason within the African Union to stand up for justice and accountability -- let's protect this great institution: 




SIGN THE PETITIONIn just 2 days ’  time, African leaders could kill off a great institution, leaving the world a more dangerous place.   


The International Criminal Court (ICC) is the world’s first and only global court to adjudicate crimes against humanity. But  leaders of Sudan and Kenya, who have inflicted terror and fear across their countries, are trying to drag Africa out of the ICC , allowing them the freedom to kill, rape, and inspire hatred without consequences. 
  
I know that together we can change this.  But we have to join hands and call on the voices of reason at the African Union (AU) – Nigeria and South Africa – to speak out and ensure that the persecuted are protected by the ICC.  Join me by adding your name to the petition now and share it with everyone  -- when we have hit 1 mill ion our petition will be delivered straight into the AU conference hall where Africa’s leaders are meeting in Addis Ababa.   


https://secure.avaaz.org/en/justice_for_africa_icc/?bgJNBab&v=30048 


In my years of work, life and travel, the fight for justice has been a long and arduous one. I have seen the very worst in Darfur and Rwanda, but also the very best with the reconciliation in South Africa. During this journey, I have seen great gains made that protect the weak from the strong and give us all hope.  The ICC is one of these beacons of hope. 


This threat to the ICC started precisely because the court was doing its job. It charged Kenya's Deputy President for killing people who rallied against him during an election and Sudan's President for murdering women and children in D arfur. Now Kenya and Sudan are lobbying all of Africa to pull out of the court and destroy its chance of success.   


But in Darfur, Congo, Cote D’Ivoire and Kenya, the ICC has played a key role in bringing hope to those terrified by the armies, militias and madmen that have waged war against the innocent.  It’s a light in the darkness that cannot be allowed to go out.   


The main argument by some leaders with a guilty conscience is that the ICC is a Western witch-hunt as most of the investigations have happened in Africa. But this couldn’t be further from the truth. This was an institution that was created by 20 African countries, 5 of the court’s 18 judges are African and the chief prosecutor is African.   

Friday is a key judgement day.  Will our African leaders stand on the side of justice or injustice? With survivors and fallen victims or with tyrants and oppresso rs? This is the moment to choose. Join me in calling on African leaders to stand on the side of justice and support the International Criminal Court:   


https://secure.avaaz.org/en/justice_for_africa_icc/?bgJNBab&v=30048 


I've seen some of the brightest moments in human history, moments where we together brought hope to so many. This is our chance to do that again, together. 


With hope and appreciation for this community, 


Desmond Tutu 


More information: 


Botswana Supports International Criminal Court (Voice of America) 
http://www.voanews.com/content/botswana-supports-international-criminal-court/1764960.html 


130 Groups Across Africa Call for Countries to Back ICC (Human Rights Watch)  
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/10/07/%20130-groups-across-africa-call-countries-back-icc 


Kenya pushing for African split from International Criminal Court (Irish Times) 
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/kenya-pushing-for-african-split-from-international-criminal-court-1.1549427 


Annan defends International Criminal Court (News 24) 
http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Annan-defends-International-Criminal-Court-20131007 


Africa to debate ICC role amid growing opposition (Yahoo News) 
http://news.yahoo.com/africa-debate-icc-role-amid-growing-opposition-103053710.html 

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