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Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 30 Jul 2001 06:37:10 +0200
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Sister Jabou,
Well said! I hope Asbjorn will make more enquires, about who these criminals are.
Nobody can reconcile with bloodthirsty people. They should be prosecuted, for their crimes, and Gambians MUST
recover up to the last butut they stole from them.
I don`t know where Asbjorn comes from, but you know how democracy functions in your country. Your leaders are
civilize people and not criminal, so we are also longing for such kind of leadership. Thanks to ruling by the
gun! Let the soldiers go back to the camp. Enough is enough!

Elhajj.

Jabou Joh skrev:

> Absjorn,
>
> Thank you for sharing this wonderful ideal.
> However, while reconcilliation may be a noble and desirable thing, the
> problem we have in the Gambia is that we are not dealing with people who have
> a conscience, and who can be moved to do the right thing.In order to  have an
> atmosphere where dialogue and ultimately reconciliation occurs, you have to
> be dealing with people who are motivated by things other than what this
> regime is motivated by.
>
> Instead, it is documented by the actions of this regime that we are dealing
> with robbers and people of very bad character who have one aim. They see
> their positions as  positions of proviledge from where they can enrich
> themselves and live extravagant lifestyles at the expense of the people, and
> which priviledge they will  do anything to maintain, including killing.
>
> Therefore, the questions becomes, how does one appeal  to a person without
> conscience or the smallest iota of desire to do the right thing? How do you
> bring such people who see positions of leadership as a ticket for highway
> robbery to a position where they see their roles as servants of the people
> which they are supposed to be?
> Absjorn, you do bring forward some interesting points, but we are dealing
> with a completely different animal where this regime is concerned, and I am
> afraid that some of these approaches is the last thing we can utilize to
> bring about changes in our country.
> These are common criminals who never should have been in any positions of
> responsibility, and  who need to be prosecuted to the fullest, and the
> evidence is mounting against these people from day to day. The sooner we can
> get them out of there, the better for the Gambian people. One does not
> bargain with criminals, you just put them where they belong forthe good of
> society as a whole.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
> In a message dated 7/29/2001 3:47:42 PM Central Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> >
> > Friends,
> > In early may I visited Dublin, Ireland. FYI: In St. Patrickīs Cathedral,
> > Dublin you can see the rest of "the door of reconciliation".
> > In 1492, public attention in Dublin was focused on the rivalry of two
> > powerful Anglo-Norman families, the Butlers and Fitzgeralds. In order to
> > counter the political dominance of Gerald Fitzgerald, Earl of Kildare, King
> > Henry VII gave his support to Fitzgeraldīs  rival, Thomas Butler, Earl of
> > Ormond. Matters came to a head when Butlerīs  nephew, Black James, arrived
> > in Dublin with an army. Supporters of the rival factions fought a battle
> > inside the cathedral. During the battle, Black James was forced to retreat
> > into the chapter house. Despite Fitzgeraldīs feelings towards the Butler
> > family, the Earl of Kildare could not be seen to stand aside while a royal
> > servant was murdered in a cathedral. Suspecting treachery, Black James could
> > only be induced to leave the chapter house when Fitzgerald cut a hole in the
> > door and thrust his arm through to offer his hand in peace.
> > It has been claimed that the idiom "to chance your arm" derives from this
> > episode in the cathedral.
> > A note in the Cathedral said, that there is a lesson for all of us engaged
> > in feuds, whether brother to brother, nation to nation. If one of us would
> > dare to "chance his arm", perhaps that would be the first crucial step to
> > reconciliation we all seek.
> >
> > When I stood there and read the story of this door, I come to think of this
> > whole idea of reconciliation once again.
> >
> > Just a comment on the situation in The Gambia inspired from a tour to
> > Dublin, Ireland.
> >
> > Asbjørn Nordam
> >
> >
>
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