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Matarr Amadou Sallah <[log in to unmask]>
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Sat, 24 Nov 2001 21:34:31 +0100
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ELHAJJ
I QUITE AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE ARE BIGGER THIEVES THAN EBOU.
THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THEY ARE NOT IN ANY FORUM WHERE IT CAN BE TAKEN UP
AND DISCUSSED AND WE CANNOT DISCUSS DIRECTLY WITH THEM. AS FOR EBOU HE IS A
MEMBER OF THE L- AND THAT MAKES IT POSSIBLEFOR US TO COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY
WITH HIM. PERSONALLY, I DONT KNOW EBOU AND IT DOESNT MATTER, WHAT HE DID IS
WRONG AND WE SHOULDN´T CONDOLE OR ENCOURAGE SUCH.

PEACE BE WITH YOU
MATARR



From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
>Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:14:08 +0100
>
>Dave,
>You are right! It is the duty of every Gambian to attack our thieves. But
>be rest assured, that there
>are people who has stolen more than Ebou Jallow, and they are among the
>worst crooks on this planet.
>
>Elhajj
>
>You really got me! I have just eaten my couscous taking some pause to make
>my
>" Tarawih  prayer "
>
>Dave Manneh skrev:
>
> > Elhaji Fye,
> >         I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief
>". In my opinion,
> > all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more
>than what
> > Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see
>them
> > attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being
>attacked. I made
> > it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his
>action,  but i
> > cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What
>about the
> > others ?
> >         If you know who those folks are, what is stopping you from
>naming and shaming them.
> > It is equally your duty to the Gambian people to name those  "bigger
>thieves" surely.
> > There is no bigger thief than Ebou, the guy is a creep, and he knows it
>too.
> > I told him two yrs ago that anytime he comes here with his shit, there
>will be
> > people who will be more than willing to shove it where it comes from,
>which is his poo hole.
> >
> > Let Ebou give us a freaking break, oK??
> > Enjoy your Iftar, if you haven't already eaten
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> > Elhajj Mustapha Fye
> > Sent: 24 November 2001 09:03
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
> >
> > Jabou,
> > I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ". In my
>opinion,
> > all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken more
>than what
> > Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to see
>them
> > attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being
>attacked. I made
> > it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his
>action,  but i
> > cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations. What
>about the
> > others ?
> > Jabou, you know that Ebou did not give me a penny on this amount. I
>repeatedly
> > said that i sympathize with Ebou, because of the antagonisms he faces
>within the
> > Gambian community.  But let people understand that, one can only
>sympathize with a
> > friend / relative / whatever / when they face difficulties, but you
>cannot change
> > the process of the truth. The truth will always be the truth!  I hope my
>fellow
> > G-Lers  will understand my positon not to misjudge me. Frankly, I did
>not regret
> > joining the L, because i met with old friends, met with new friends and
>usually
> > get a lot of fun here. So, I highly appreciate this gathering, and also
>respect
> > their views on our debates. It is not always that we will see eye to eye
>on
> > issues, but it does make us to be enemies. Let us just disagree with
>respect, not
> > to creat enemity between us.
> >
> > Happy Ramadan
> > Elhajj.
> >
> > Jabou Joh skrev:
> >
> > > Elhadj,
> > >
> > > I hope you are being sarcastic, because whether it was taken as Ebou
>did or
> > > taken in secret as other did, it all amounts to the same thing, and as
>far as
> > > I am concerned, they are all thieves, whether they took it during the
>Jawara
> > > Era or now in various forms. A thief is a thief, and no amount of
>smoothing
> > > over can ever change that. If one takes what does not belong to them,
>and
> > > worse still, if what they took was entrusted to them on behalf of the
>people,
> > >  or by the people it puts them into a category that no decent person
>wants to
> > > belong to.
> > >
> > > Yes, mentioning the thievery practiced by our government officials
>past and
> > > present very much belongs on Gambia-L, and why?
> > > Because this is a gathering of Gambians, and if such talk does not
>belong
> > > here, then where in heaven's name does it belong then, in the closet?
>We have
> > > done too much of that, always trying to hush hush the misdeeds of
>those who
> > > should exercise the highest moral character because they are the
>guardians of
> > > what little assets we have,
> > > and all that this does is to send the message that one can do anything
>and
> > > get away with it. No more. If they do it, we will talk about it loud
>and
> > > clear for the whole World to hear.No hard feelings Elhadj, and i am
>sure you
> > > will agree with me because i do believe you are a man of ethics, and
>truth
> > > can never be the equivalent of falsehood as the holy Qur'an tells us.
> > >
> > > Sister Jabou Joh
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/24/01 6:11:53 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Jabou,
> > > > I am sorry to say, that the truth you have mentioned in your mail,
>should
> > > > not be
> > > > mentioned on the Gambia-L. Ebou Jallow is the ONLY THIEF who has
>ever
> > > > stolen the
> > > > coffers of our country. All the rest who took our coffers in the
>past 37
> > > > years
> > > > has borrowed what they took. We hope the so called truthful G-Lers
>will ask
> > > > them,
> > > > when they will pay back our money? Some are running their
>progressive
> > > > businesses,
> > > > and others are sitting in their Mansions.
> > > >
> > > > Elhajj
> > > >
> > > > Jabou Joh skrev:
> > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/23/2001 7:57:24 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Samba and co,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I mean it when I said Ebou is Man. To apologise after all he
>siad and
> > > > did
> > > > > > against Jammeh and this Government, it is unbelievable. I could
>not
> > > > beleive
> > > > > > my eyes when I saw the original letter. At first I thought it
>was fake.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ebou Jallow has done so much damage to President Jammeh and this
> > > > Government
> > > > > > and I do not think he will be forgivened.I think this is all a
>CIA
> > > > plot. I
> > > > > > have know Ebou Jallow we had a good relation and we still do,
>but I just
> > > > > > hope he is not stupid enough to step his foot in this country.
>He will
> > > > be
> > > > > > tried and jailed. Even if President Jammeh forgives him, others
>would
> > > > not.
> > > > > > He has done wrong to others too, not only President Jammeh.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He is a man. He knows what people would say about him and he
>still came
> > > > out
> > > > > > in public apologising. I think Ebou is being paid and
>manipulated by the
> > > > > > CIA. I might be wrong but this is my feeling. I do not see
>anything that
> > > > > > would save Ebou Jallow from being punished for what he did if he
>comes
> > > > > > back.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PEACE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tombong
> > > > >
> > > > > But Tombong,
> > > > >
> > > > > With all due respect, Ebou Jallow has not done anything that
>Jammeh and co
> > > > > have not done, and on a much larger scale infact. Seems to me that
>he is
> > > > not
> > > > > the only one who needs to be tried and jailed, so this is a case
>of " the
> > > > pot
> > > > > calling the kettel black". It is a strange thing when criminals
>try to
> > > > point
> > > > > fingers at each other.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jabou Joh
> > > > >
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