Haruna I don’t know why you tied everything I say about Pa Nderi to him being narcissistic. I have also said he has some multiple personalities.
"His recklessness led to many people losing their jobs, detained and
tortured." Lamin.
Lamin, if you look at this statement you shared, you have blamed Nderry
for
the crimes of the terminator, detainer, and the torturer. You have also
admitted that Nderry's and the fortunes of this criminal are divergent
in the main.
It therefore establishes that Nderry neither has the intent nor any
affect
on the relationships between the criminal and his/her victims.
Collateral.
Haruna my understanding is if your action or lack of action leads to the injury (the torture, detention and dismissal) of an innocent individual, you should be definitely if not criminally, be held accountable. So if Pa Nderi’s incendiary and dangerous way of doing business couple with his negligence in his failure to secure the name of his “subscribers;” Which led to the arrest and torture and dismissal of numerous people, I don’t know why he should not be held responsible. You are saying if Pa Nderi throw Mr. X’s sheep in the cage of a hungry lion at Yahya Jammeh’s zoo in Kanilai and the lion devour the sheep. Mr. X cannot hold Pa Nderi accountable because the situation of the lion and the sheep was that of fortune? I DON’T GET THIS.
"But he don't care he said he is fighting a cause and there is going to
be
blood." Lamin.
I would take this as Nderry not having the capacity to reverse the
misfortunes of the criminal's victims and that Nderry, in remorse of
the pain the
victims must have felt at the hands of their criminal, enjoins in the
former's
battle. Nderry therefore is well-intentioned and good in the main. How
you read
carelessness and recklessness in that is incomprehensible to me.
Haruna it is incomprehensible to me too that if Nderi throw the sheep to Jammeh’s loin and has no capacity to reverse the “misfortune” of the poor sheep that he is “well-intentioned.” I don’t even think that this is a misfortune. Because he should have foreseen the fate of the sheep before he did what he did.
[He mean it but he is not talking about his blood, he is talking about
the
life of people he put on the line everyday.] Lamin.
I think you read Nderry wrong here. Even if we agree with you Lamin, it
could be easily characterized as either banter in Nderry or a battle
cry. The
battle you must now realise is honourable.
Pa Nderi is a coward. If you really want to wage a war you have to man up and be in the front line and not fleeing from the perceived danger and instead using the blood of innocent people including women ad children to wage a proxy war. This is not a battle is a coward sitting behind his computer and exposing unsuspecting people to the ruthless Jammeh attack dogs. By the way I am baffled that you believe that there is a battle to be fought which “you must now realise is honourable.” Your this stands is what is inciting Nderi to be hitting on every body because you guys believe there is a battle to be fought. You have seen the incendiary articles that Nderi will be carrying saying the army is in a war footing they are about to strike all what not. Please guys don’t burn our country the same way George Bush is burning Iraq.
Sadam was a bad guy but he did not shed as much blood as Bush.
Haruna I run out of time but I will be back to dissect your response the same way you did mine.
Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hello Lamin, now that I know your name.
[GDP I noticed that you always find some funny ways of calling people some
names. Like calling Baba Galleh Jallow, "Galleh."]
No Lamin. My calling Baba, Galleh, indicates esteem and affinity for the man
even though I've never met him. Not comedy. And I only called you Paripanna
after searching for your name to no avail. I do effort to find appropriate
names to give proper ambiance to commentary. This occasion was serious however,
not funny. The reason will become apparent.
"My Paripanna address came as a result of my frustration to create a yahoo
address using my own name. Too many Lamins." Lamin.
How was I supposed to know that? So you changed your name just to get a
yahoo email address????? You might be one of those Gambians who has to have their
pictures regardless. And you thought Nderry was bad about that.
"On a serious note:" Lamin.
I was joking in the statements immediately above too. Fehr Dinkum.
[FYI I was the last man standing when it comes to advising Pa Nderi.I will
repeat, Pa Nderi like I said, has an agenda and that is "Editor Mbye."] Lamin.
You may be surprised to know that Pa Nderry himself has advised us that he
and Freedom have an agenda. I acknowledged that in my support of him and his
paper vis - "Freedom Online did not emerge from vacuous loafing". I enhanced
the statement to yield better understanding. Lamin, you will also agree with me
that newspapers and or tabloids all have an agenda. Some call it editorial
philosophy, some call it editorial stance/position. You also are aware that
in some places, newspapers endorse political candidates who best reflect that
agenda in their opinion. Therefore, a newspaper or an editor having an agenda
is not a new or pejorative phenomenon. The problem arises when we try to
qualify that agenda for them instead of allowing them to express it to us. What
I mean Lamin is that you have qualified Freedom's/Pa Nderry's agenda to be
"Editor Mbye". What privilege or authority do you rely on to qualify such
subject as agenda??? You see what I mean Lamin. I, like you, am aware that Pa
Nderry probably has an agenda as most or all newspapers or even tabloids do. The
difference between you and me here is that I am satisfied with that knowledge
and I may not venture to characterize that agenda for Nderry, but you feel
perfectly comfortable in going the extra mile so to speak. What guided my
restraint is value. Is it important or valuable for me to characterize Nderry's
agenda??? I determined no. Afterall that will have been mere conjecture. And
if the characterization were found to be true, the realization that whatever
the agenda was, Nderry had a right to it. PLUS; the fact that Nderry's agenda
is 'Editor Mbye' does not have a bearing on proclivity to commit crime
against another, which to my knowledge he or Freedom has not done yet. To the
extent you and my friend Yanks perceive hebdomadaire in't, I encouraged you to
send him well-phrased counsel. Why would I urge you in that direction? Because
you have shared with us you find Nderry narcissistic. Narcissism is not a
crime but it is a condition that may lead to sleight and or other offense
potentially criminal. And you will not get too far with a victimless narcissist with
anger. If you really believe Nderry to be narcissistic.
"If you don't accept that," Lamin.
It is not a question of whether I accept you view of Nderry or not. If it is
any comfort, I do not. But that is inconsequential as you will show me later.
"all Editor Mbye knows about your Private life will be laid bare in the
freedom newspaper breaking news!!!!! tomorrow." Lamin.
If you advise Nderry to publish it, then it is good that it is in the
Freedom breaking news swiftly and you must thank Nderry for acceding to your
request for its publication.
If you advised Nderry not to publish such and he does anyway, then it is
breach of confidentiality at best. But Lamin bear with me for a minute. If you
bear such disdain and distrust of the editor of Freedom, that ought to
possibly encourage cadence and circumspect in your private life. This is so that
should the National enquirer get to it first before Freedom, it's ultimate
publication will have been benign and possibly inspiring to others. Since 1942,
private lives had become public fodder. I found that out when I was born much
later. I think one problem I see is that we do not fully appreciate the gap
between Gambia's development as a nation and that of other nations. I'm not
saying that is the only cause for misunderstandings. It is a contributing cause
for parallax in perspectives.
"He did it to Yanks and many more people." Lamin.
I know that my good friend Yanks was aversed by Nderry's reporting and
possibly Abdoukarim and many more. I have urged and I continue to urge Nderry to
apologise for collateral aversions and sleight. That still stands. And whether
Nderry thinks he has not committed a crime and therefore owes no apologies
is immaterial. Generally I do not urge folk to apologise for crime. I solicit
apologies for more minor offenses of aversions and sleight. In that spirit, I
still urge Nderry to apologise to folk who have perceived such injury
issuing direcftly from his work and publication. Nderry still has not committed any
crime. He is best advised to apologise to Yanks, Karim, yourself, and any
who has perceived or innured injury as a direct result of his actions. If
Nderry does not apologise, I still support him and Freedom Online. I just happen
to know the apology will be extra-valuable for Nderry and Freedom.
[If you call him to advice him he act up to win your trust so that your
share your private life to him and any day he turns against you, you make
breaking news.] Lamin.
No Lamin Nderry is not this sinister. Besides I think he is too busy at
Freedom for such elaborate schemes. But you say he is narcissistic. A narcissist
is not capable of accruing value for him/herself through the actions or the
lives of others. That is a different pathos. Lamin, you and I understand that
Nderry is constantly under threats and pressures of other who wish him dead.
Now put yourself in his shoes for a moment. Then you get Haruna calling you to
advise you for calm. I think it will depend to a degree on how Haruna
advises you or how you yourself had perceived Haruna prior to his call. Is that
fair??? That will still not stop you from your ritual supplications before you
answer the phone call because you are narcissistic. What I share Lamin is that
we are probably focusing on the wrong themes to engage Nderry on if we feel
he has injured us in any way. What I see generally is that the method of
communion is deficient. And it could very well be true that you are positively
injured by Nderry's direct actions or inactions for all I know. We have already
placed Nderry on the short end of the stick. That in itself is cutaneous
armour for indifference and nonchalance. You're with me Lamin?
[Pa Nderry is using his paper to bully innocent people in the same way
Jammeh is using all the institution of the government to bully Gambians.]
I think you are in error here. A narcissist by his very nature is anathema
to bullying. Think about it for a minute. So he is either a narcissist or a
bully. And I do not compare Nderry to Yahya. Their resources for craft are
incomparable. That has an effect on project planning and implementation. But not
decrepitude.
"His recklessness led to many people losing their jobs, detained and
tortured." Lamin.
Lamin, if you look at this statement you shared, you have blamed Nderry for
the crimes of the terminator, detainer, and the torturer. You have also
admitted that Nderry's and the fortunes of this criminal are divergent in the main.
It therefore establishes that Nderry neither has the intent nor any affect
on the relationships between the criminal and his/her victims. Collateral.
"But he don't care he said he is fighting a cause and there is going to be
blood." Lamin.
I would take this as Nderry not having the capacity to reverse the
misfortunes of the criminal's victims and that Nderry, in remorse of the pain the
victims must have felt at the hands of their criminal, enjoins in the former's
battle. Nderry therefore is well-intentioned and good in the main. How you read
carelessness and recklessness in that is incomprehensible to me.
[He mean it but he is not talking about his blood, he is talking about the
life of people he put on the line everyday.] Lamin.
I think you read Nderry wrong here. Even if we agree with you Lamin, it
could be easily characterized as either banter in Nderry or a battle cry. The
battle you must now realise is honourable.
[And you know what, if you are not blunt to him like you tried to recently,
he twist it to mean a compliment.] Lamin.
No Lamin. I think you are a bit impatient. Nderry is as intelligent as you
and Yanks. I think you underestimate his acumen. That might be one of the
problems you're having with him. Remmember narcissists know themselves to a more
hightened degree than suicidal deviants.
[Do you know that all the articles in the freedom newspaper purporting to be
quoting "Editor Mbye" in the third person are all done by Pa Nderry himself
doing a self interview."] Lamin.
I don't see anything wrong with that do you?? If you're infact correct, I
say Nderry has a valuable skill in pantomimickry. We could have another Marcel
Marceau in the making. He must be appreciated and encouraged therefore. I
admired Marcel.
[Reacting to the developments, our fearless Editor (Editor Mbye), said “
Gheran sounds like a desperate man. I am here in Raleigh. I look forward to
seeing him. I fear only God. He is making the fool of himself by making such
threats... He made my day bad because since the murder of my mentor Deyda Hydara
by the Gambian Government, I have been tormented by such nightmares. I hate
killers and their supporters. He also disrupted my University classes. I could
hardly read, since he made the threats. I am not scared, but I felt bad that
a novice is threatening me in the land of Freedom. This is Un-American.
Gheran Senghore should be brought to book for his cowardly act. It's only cowards
who hide under the cover of dark to kill others." said MBai.
The above quote is Pa Nderry quoting himself and describing himself fearless
in one paragraph and in the next one he is scare of death to the point of
getting restless and losing concentration to the point of disrupting his school
work. It is a dangerous situation to have an individual with all this crazy
personalities calling himself a journalist] Lamin.
Lamin. Settle down for a moment. You have just described part of the genius
in Nderry in your submission. To assign malignant faculty and craziness to
this genius is itself suspect. Won't you afford Nderry some credit? You notice
here that Nderry was the subject of ridicule and malicious attacks by this
gentleman (Gheran). If my memory serves me right, the gentleman feigned
relationship to Nderry and proceeded to soil the family and character of Nderry. This
was Nderry's reaction to such character. I think if anyone is crazy or
dangerous, you must agree with me it is the subject gentleman, not Nderry.
Narcissists can also be victims of crime of other you know. And narcissists must be
protected by the same laws that prosecute criminals.
[And Haruna you are damn right too- freedom newspaper is the mirror image of
Daily observer's gutter journalism.] Lamin.
I did not mean that Lamin and I disagree with your analogy. Freedom is not a
mirror image of Daily Observer's gutter journalism. Freedom is antidote in
mine eyes.
[With Jammeh at the head of Observer and Editor Mbye at the head of Freedom
news Paper.] No Lamin. You over-react.
"God Bless Gambia!!" Lamin.
I kinda like you for some reason. I don't know why yet. But until I know
why, I want to celebrate my new-found affinity. You are so excited Lamin, I'd
think you Joe Sambou. Every time you two speak, you'd think the sky is meeting
the earth and we're all about to get crushed unless we give you our farthings.
You two are good though. May God continue to bless you and I look forward to
hearing you more often.
Masoud. MQJGDT. Darbo. Al Mutawakkil.
Haruna Darbo wrote: Paripanna,
You may have a good point here. Although I don't view Pa Nderry as
narcissistic, I would discourage all online editors to make more economic
use of their
own pictures. Perhaps you could send a well-phrased advice to Pa Nderry
along those lines. I also know that Gambians have an affinity for pictures
and
the online papers cannot always come up with relevant pictures to their
stories.
That reminds me. I introduced The GDp to a Gambian some while ago. She went
to the site and called me a couple of days later to advise me that I do not
have enough pictures there and she did not see mine in the marqee gallery.
Go
figure.
Haruna. Forget all the other valuable information. We want our pictures and
we want them now.
By the way, did you know Tiger returned from Bayhill with Arnie's trophy???
I felt sad for Bart Bryant. Tiger did it at the 18th with a 24ft birdie
putt.
The only one of its kind he made all weekend. He had to make that one though
for he would have lost in a playoff with Bryant. I was almost sure of it.
Al
Mu'umin.
In a message dated 3/16/2008 7:55:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Yanks you damn right! Pa Nderry is very very cruel and narcissistic! Make
no
mistake about it, he will cut down everybody to keep his face on the paper
because that is the only thing real I see in freedom and that is his
agenda-"Editor Mbye!" lol. If you don't accept how "Editor Mbye do
business you
will be decimated period and Yanks you know better.
By the way do you remember me?
yanks dabo wrote: Pa Ndery's Cruelty! Chapter 13,
What will happen to Gheran Senghore?
"If yahya Jammeh was or becomes a newspaper editor, his paper's contents
would be nothing more nor less to that of freedomnewspaper!"
Yanks Dabo, 16 March 2008
Brethren Yanks
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