My Brother,
To add to what you've said,we are Gambians and have the right to be concern and
participate in the
affairs of our country . We don't have to be in The Gambia to be active in
Gambian affairs.Being
away and contributing to the affairs of our country does not necessarily make us
a coward instead,
it indicates our conviction and patriotism to our motherland and no like of Mr.
Collins with his threats
and insults will deprive us from our right to be concern about the welfare of
our people.
Ebrima and source keep up the good work.
Beran
-----Original Message-----
From: Yahya Darboe [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 10:51 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source
Mboge, you stated my sentiments well. If Mr. Collins believes in the
legitimacy of his company he can give us more information about it
rather than just saying we are a subsidiary of so and so company in
USA. Give us some facts so that anyone who wants to find out the
truth could do so easily. For example, what is the contact
information of the US parent company?
Let me remind Mr. Collins that he is not in The Gambia to help
Gambians but to reap profits to be made from the peanut trade if him
and his company are truly dealing in this commodity.
The other issue that I am disappointed in is the threatening nature
of Mr. Collins' statements. What about the BLACKMAILING? This is
pathetic. He better know that his blackmailing will not work with
members of this list. At least we live in a country were the rule of
law is upheld by the authorities unlike Yahya Jammeh's government
that he thinks is a great one.
MR. COLLINS, I think most people if not all on this list know what is
best for Gambia far better than you. As for what we do for Gambia,
you are not qualified to ask that question and you don't deserve an
answer to that.
YND
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From: momodou olly-mboge <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:57:01 -0500
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source
Hi Ebrima,
Keep it up. History shall bear withness to the truth. Your
relentless
struggle for a better Gambia shall be rewarded. Freedom shall be
ours. THE
REAL CHARLATAN IS MR COLLINS.
The ranting and raving of this so-called Alan D. Collins is nothing
but
puffing of hot air. He is trying to placate our minds by blowing his
own
trumpet.
The guy and his friends are exposed and now they are resorting to
intimidation with legal action. But Mr Collins should not
underestimate the
dedication of the new generation of Gambians who wants a better
future for
their country.
His accusation of the opposition of wanting to remove a
democratically
elected government shows a lack of knowledge of the Gambian situation
or a
deliberate attempt to trivialize it.
He should be reminded that both Britain and the USA of which he claims
citizenship see Yahya and the APRC as rogues and murderers. No
wonder the
Clinton administration stopped all direct aid to the Gambia since
this moron
with an eliorated mind came to power.
Can MR Collins tell us what is democratic about an uncouth moron who
usurp
power with the gun? Maybe Collins democratic standards are from
another
world.
Collins should also tell us what is good about a government who had
ordered
the killings of school children, abduction of its citizens and
burning down
independent radio stations, the denial of meetings of its opposition,
amending of parts of the constitution which are 'inimical' to the
interest
of the APRC etc.
Collins and his kind are the type of foreign investors we do not need
in
Africa. His type helped people like Mobutu to ruin the
continent. WE WILL
NEVER AGAIN ACCEPT SUCH KIND OF PEOPLE IN OUR MIDST. WE SHALL CHASE
THEM
OUT.
Mr Collins do not know what he is talking about. Just because
Gambians ask
some questions about his 'business' warrants him to label us
communist.
This is really a laughable assumption.
And Finally MR Collins should be reminded that English is not our
language,
as long as we are understood, we care less.
Gambia deserves better. Let him take whatever legal action he dsires,
we
shall defend ourselves vigorously.
I for one resides in London, UK and he can do whatever he wants about
it.
Ebrima, you and your sources are doing a marvelous job. Keep it up.
Regards,
Mboge
>From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: HILO Gambia MD reacts to My source
>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:25:28 -0000
>
>Gambia-L:
>
>The unedited e-mail below came from the managing director of HILO in
the
>Gambia, Alan D Collins. He is reacting to my source's e-mail about
his
>bogus
>company. The attachment came with a short covering letter in which
he was
>threatening me. I will be sending the covering letter separately
later on.
>
>Alan Collins: I think you are a real joker! Do you think you can
threaten
>me? Well, you better do your home work about who Ebrima Ceesay is?
Anyway,
>if time permits me, I'll give you a fitting response.
>
>Ebrima Ceesay
>Birmingham, UK
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
___
>
>
>
>
>Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd
>
>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
>
>November 27, 2000
>
>I am in receipt of an e-mail sent from Gambia-L dated November 23rd
2000.
>
>Clearly, you hide behind a veil of anonymity. We do not. Cowards
afraid of
>the truth hide in fear of being found out. Those of us who are
trying to do
>things correctly are unafraid and can issue a statement from a known
>location, as we are now doing.
>
>Whoever wrote the e-mail is evidently completely unaware of the true
state
>of affairs. In addition, the e-mail is not only scurrilous but, more
>seriously, libellous.
>
>The Gambian Government is not hoodwinking anyone. The
recent ‘agreement’
>reached between the parties represents a significant profit for
Alimenta,
>far, far more than they ever achieved during their operations within
The
>Gambia. It is you, and your ilk, that are attempting to hoodwink the
>People, no-one else. Hoodwinking the EU would be unthinkable, for
surely it
>could not possibly be done?
>
>I am unaware of any Company being formed to act as a front for His
>Excellency Jammeh, leave aside one that buys Groundnuts. I may
certainly
>state that Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd has been formed – as an
offshoot from
>its American company – to buy groundnuts from the farmer of The
Gambia. As
>The President of this company, I inform you that you commit a libel
by
>printing a lie. I strongly suggest you cease and desist, and retract
the
>ill-advised statements made to date.
>
>When I trace your whereabouts, and be assured I will, I shall take
>immediate
>legal action. Of course, you do not dare to back your statements by
openly
>confronting me. Again, you prove your cowardice.
>
>The “raisons d’etre” of Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd are to
ensure that
the
>farmers are paid on time, to make a profit, as a private company is
>entitled
>so to do, and to recognize, and accept, the necessity for social,
economic
>and political responsibility.
>
>The question of a monopoly: (I assume you meant ‘monopoly’ instead
of
>‘monolopy’?) It is the EU in reality that is truly trying to
monopolise The
>Gambia, as it insidiously spreads its tentacles here and over an
>increasingly large slice of the globe.
>
>It is you, my cowardly friends, who are being hoodwinked by those you
>consider allies. Et tu, Brutus?
>
>I must agree that the farmers are not fools. They were not fools
when they
>applauded our plans at Tenda Ba, and they were not fools to accept
FACS as
>our buying agent for groundnuts. They are further confirmed as not
being
>fools because they are clever enough to perceive that we, as Hilo
Trading,
>are fully committed to them. What we have said we will do, we have
done.
>And, they are certainly not fools because they are receiving
immediate
>payment at secco level for their peanuts this season. Already we have
>disbursed D 10 million to farmers.
>
>No, my afraid friends, the farmers are not fools and neither will
they be
>hoodwinked like they have been these past few years – and none of
those the
>fault of the Government. They are not fools because they will never
listen
>to the likes of you. Your statements about them are not in the best
>interests of the farmers, for should they listen to you, they would
surely
>suffer, and badly so.
>
>As to the EU and Alimenta not being fools – I could not possibly
comment.
>
>Once again you commit libel by stating that Hilo Trading is a dummy
>company.
>
>Hilo Trading Inc USA is a US$ 23 million a year merchant company,
formed in
>1993.
>
>Our Gambian operation was incorporated in March 2000 with the express
>purpose of operating fully from this season onward.
>
>I am not only a British National, but an American citizen too. Thus
I have
>both countries resources and protection. Be warned - I know ST
>JOHNS.EDU….and I will use my resources to track you down and expose
you to
>The People Of The Gambia as the troublemakers you are.
>
>Those of your ‘colleagues’ in Atlanta need not bother to check out
the
>‘funny’ company of “Hailo” for they shall surely not
find it.
Perhaps this
>e-mail will assist you in your uneducated approaches to the dissident
>factor; for, surely, you will now at least have the correct spelling
of our
>‘funny’ company. Your spelling overall, by the way is thoroughly
appalling.
>
>Your fellow true-countrymen, those that don’t operate in dark and
dank and
>secret places, will not find HILO being so funny, but, rather quite
>serious.
>This will be the case when we assist the country, through its
farmers, back
>to an economic sanity within the Groundnut Sub-Sector by paying
farmers for
>peanuts delivered on time – with NO CREDIT BUYING.
>
>I do not object to being called a ‘Software Engineer’, for that is
a
>privileged and quite honourable position. Why are you so derogatory
about
>software engineers? It seems you have little good to say about
anyone or
>anything. I also wonder how I became a software engineer having
spent my
>past 30 years in the groundnut business. I must sleep less than I
think, or
>study in my REM sleep.
>
>The nonsense that you write is clearly indicative that perhaps you
are
>still
>at pre-school, kindergarten perhaps? Surely, a grown adult with any
degree
>of education would shy away from writing such adolescent rubbish?
And yet,
>e-mailing illegally from StJohns.Edu would indicate otherwise, which
I find
>enormously interesting as I begin to track down who you are.
>
>Hilo Trading Gambia has invested almost US$ 3 million this year in
The
>Gambia. Do you still consider us to be a ‘funny’ company? What has
anyone
>else invested? What have you and your band of troublemakers invested
or
>contributed for your country? I’ll wager absolutely nothing, of
course. If
>not for Hilo and this Government, this season would have been a non-
starter
>as well. The Government is strapped because of being hoodwinked by
last
>season’s operators who still owe millions and millions and millions
of
>Dalasis to them and others. The good deed, last season, of the Govt
coming
>to the rescue with funds has been paid back by a web of deceit and
>cover-ups
>committed by those to whom money was given. More evidence of
your ‘friends
>of The Gambia’. No doubt you exist so as to communicate with them
all of
>your twisted thoughts. Perhaps they hide in the same slime as you
people;
>no
>doubt you are happy bedfellows.
>
>We have invested. We have contributed. We are producing. We are
helping. We
>therefore have a right to priority usage of Denton Bridge for we are
the
>only ones serious enough to complete the task at hand. What rights
do you
>have?
>
>Your writings are the ranting of jealous Gambians who have
contributed
>nothing, but want everything; of political dissidents scrambling for
power
>that they cannot possible obtain by fair means, but only by foul; of
>ignoramuses, unwilling or incapable of understanding even the most
>simplistic truths; of those that prefer chaos to security, of bad
times
>rather than good times. You seek to wreck, not to build. You wish to
>destroy
>society, not make it any better. You are the true menace to The
People of
>The Gambia.
>
>You are frauds and charlatans because you profess to speak the truth
but in
>fact you speak not only lies but utter and absolute drivel. The dog
barking
>in the street, the cat meowing at night, or the bray of cattle at
dawn all
>contain more truth than you could ever hope to muster by writing
10,000
>e-mails.
>
>As I, personally, neither Hilo Trading Gambia Ltd, have
ever ‘stolen’ from
>The Gambian population, your accusations, of being ‘shameless
crooks’ by
>deduction, must surely therefore be libellous to the EU and
Alimenta. I
>suspect they will be none too happy with you in this regard.
>
>We will not be stopped in our attempt to rectify the appalling
problems
>created these past few years, through no fault of Government. There
IS a
>trade season in progress, with farmers receiving money, and money
only from
>Hilo Trading. We shall commence shelling within a matter of days and
>exports
>a few days thereafter. This Government is more than competent;
however it
>is
>not Government’s role to run private businesses. I remind you,
again, for
>the dim-witted need reminding often – without the Govt intervening
with
>funds this past trade season it would have been an even greater
disaster.
>
>The insistence, of some, that buying operations be free, open and
>competitive is admirable. Theory is such a wonderful thing.
Communism was
>once thought admirable. Your mumbo-jumbo is theory because you would
never
>have the sense to put in place what you preach because you could not
>operate
>power in an effective democracy. But, in reality, yours, and it, is
the
>diatribe of the economically insane. A business needs to be managed
>properly
>and not in a socialistic ‘Alice In Wonderland’. Imagine Coca-Cola
allowing
>others access to its trade patents, its productions and its marketing
>channels and so forth. Look what happened last season – 3 non-
professional,
>not so ‘funny’ companies combined into one gigantic imbroglio and
landed
>the
>country in to a depressingly stupid and hopeless situation. They
could not
>have done a worse job if they had tried, and, yet, these are the very
>people
>you support as you attempt to destabilize a freely elected
Government and
>the very people of The Gambia and its many venerable institutions.
>
>As far as funds being released by donors to Alimenta – more verbal
>diarrhoea
>indeed. An agreement has been reached and that is the end of that.
>
>As to the start of the Trade Season, your reasoning is once again
far from
>sound. Your reasoning shows a fundamental disregard for the search
of truth
>and is bereft of logic. The simple reasons for any ‘delays’ were
two-
fold:
>firstly, the farmers informed us, at Tenda Ba, that they were simply
not
>ready to harvest and secondly, Government has sensibly been awaiting
the
>announcement of a Senegalese price.
>
>The season has now been announced, as it was no longer possible to
await
>the
>price from Senegal. Senegal appears so disorganised and most
probably will
>not start purchasing from their farmers until January 2001 at the
earliest.
>Perhaps your spleen is better vented at them, my frightened friends.
For
>The
>Gambia has a ‘jump-start’ by announcing an early Trade Season, much
to the
>credit of this current administration.
>
>Well, in closing, just a further thought.
>
>Do you know it is illegal to send private e-mails over a university
system
>server? It is also illegal to send political propaganda in the same
manner.
>We shall contact the University’s website and we shall inform the
>University
>of your little games. We shall indeed contact our lawyers in the USA
for
>legal action. Perhaps the INS might also be interested in your
paperwork? I
>do so hope you are legal aliens?
>
>Perhaps you may find life a little unpleasant from now on and you
may not
>be
>able to continue to use the same methods to send your spiteful,
hateful and
>unequivocally incompetent and untruthful mails.
>
>Yours very truly,
>
>Alan D Collins President, Hilo Trading (Gambia) Ltd
>
>_____________________________________________________________________
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