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saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
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Yusupha,

Take a hint: declare "victory" and move on. Tell your boys you've won or
whatever. I'm really trying to temper my responses because of the Ramadan,
but you're pushing the envelop. You've called me Nigger twice now. You've
also called me ignorant and a bigot. Fine. All - just for describing MY
experiences.

Omar Drammeh has also stated very clearly where he is coming from. And like
the All-knowing, Most-Travlled person you are, you've declared him
"unqualified" to speak about America. This man is talking about what
HAPPENED TO HIM -not what he has read about somewhere! What type of forum is
this, if people cannot talk about their experiences? You find that to be
bigotted, ignorant, or stereotyping, fine. You're entitled to that.

But, for your own sake, you better move on. Because if you continue this
charade, you'll be VERY SORRY. This is not a threat. It's just the way it's
gonna be. You attack me one more time, and you'll be sorry!

Saul.

>From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>Subject: Re: Yusufa: Re: ON BIGOTRY AND STEREOTYPING
>Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 02:51:20 EST
>
>Mr. Khan,
>I would not refer to a protest against something that I feel strongly about
>as childish.  Hardly! This is surely not the first time people have either
>protested against or stood up to bigots. And this will surely not be the
>last
>time. Also, to err is human and it takes a better man or woman to admit so.
>All the name calling is unwarranted.
>
>As was stressed in my earlier piece, it is certain that there are unsavory
>characters in NY.  There are unpleasant people everywhere.  But to
>stereotype
>a whole section of the population because of a handful of negative
>incidents
>that you have experienced is rather ignorant.  I have been to the Bronx and
>many other black neighborhoods under a variety of different circumstances
>and
>never experienced a negative incident. Now, what makes me so different from
>you?  We both have a thick Gambian accent, dress and look a bit different.
>So we stand out.  Yet, you still think that those that beat you up chose to
>do so because they hate Africans and everything black?  Give me a break,
>Saul!  There has to be more to your story.  Everything that you have stated
>is your own opinion and  does not hold true for everyone.  Therefore, when
>you start making blanket statements, stereotypes and assumptions, your
>views
>start to become bigoted and ignorant.
>
>Anyway, you still have not produced any evidence that your use of the word
>is
>justified.  Except that you have chosen to use the a derogatory term to
>define a whole subsection of the population.  You can use the word all you
>want and also twist the definition to justify its use, but the definition
>of
>a bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own
>opinions and prejudices.  You certainly fit this definition based on your
>thoughts.
>
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